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OFC slothead vs. NAMM 2080
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| moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15682 Location: SoCal | Had a chance yesterday, with a friend, to test drive these two guitars and compare them. I had previously stated that the 2080 may have been the best sounding Adamas I had ever played. I still think it sounds buttery smooth and is a great guitar. But the OFC slothead (ding!) blows it out of the water. It's louder, and has more tone. It's just "more" guitar. Anybody who has a 2080 has a great guitar. It's just that those 12 of us who have OFC slotheads (ding!) have really special guitars. Thanks again Al, for making it happen.... | ||
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| Waskel |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840 Location: closely held secret | I'm shocked. | ||
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| stephent28 |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303 Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | why not have both and don't worry which is better. 2080 for some tunes and OFC1 for others. the OFC2 in wideneck config is better than both. just my 2 cents which is worth more than your 2 cents :p | ||
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| moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15682 Location: SoCal | I had been really impressed with the 2080 (and still am). Just thought it was interesting to compare the two and was surprised at the result. There's a reason I'm playing the OFC slothead (ding!) more and more.... | ||
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| Jonmark Stone |
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Joined: May 2008 Posts: 1565 Location: Indiana | I'd happily contribute an opinion if someone would be kind enough to send me one of each for extensive testing... | ||
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| Mark in Boise |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12761 Location: Boise, Idaho | Rake those leaves. I haven't compared the OFC I and II, but, after a year's comparison, the #47 RI beats out the OFC I, as someone suggested years ago. I assume it's just the space taken up by the preamp. Of course, the #47 doesn't plug in. | ||
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| moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15682 Location: SoCal | The 47 RI is a real special guitar, no doubt. I was never a fan of the red, but as I posted another time, I was at Witko's a couple of years ago and with all the Ovations, Adamii, Martins, Collings, etc, that was the guitar I kept coming back to.... | ||
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| ProfessorBB |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 5881 Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | I have both. I prefer my 1187 SSB custom, which likely doesn't sound as good acoustically as either because of the SSB/deep bowl differences, but contains the exact same electronics as the OFC-II (OP Pro with boost). I've had opportunities to show off these two guitars (OFC-I/II) to others and the responses have been consistent. Younger people gravitate toward the more technically advanced, space-age looking, and more electronic feature-laden OFC-II. Ovation purists go more for the OFC-I. I consider myself fortunate to be able to have the best of both worlds. | ||
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| moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15682 Location: SoCal | There you go. I played your SSB custom Adamas and think it's a wonderful guitar. Unplugged sound, Brad, which guitar do you prefer? Ultimately, that's what I was talking about... | ||
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| stephent28 |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303 Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Originally posted by moody, p.i.: original slotheadwhich guitar do you prefer? | ||
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| ProfessorBB |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 5881 Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Originally posted by moody, p.i.: I have no preference with respect to unplugged sound. To me, both sound the same. My hearing has lost its ability to pick up whatever slight differences there might be from behind the bowl. For other reasons, my preference would probably lean to the OFC-I. It doesn't show fingerprints, and I've removed the bridge shims so the action is lower. On the other hand, I do prefer the glossed neck of the OFC-II. This is a question that is really difficult, and one that I can't answer based only on sound.Unplugged sound, Brad, which guitar do you prefer? Ultimately, that's what I was talking about... | ||
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| moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15682 Location: SoCal | Fair enough.... | ||
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| stonebobbo |
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Joined: August 2002 Posts: 8307 Location: Tennessee | I prefer the OFC2 over the OFC1. But, both are spectacular guitars. And it depends on what and how one decides to play. | ||
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| Tim in Tidewater |
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Joined: December 2005 Posts: 1234 Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | Funny, I found it the opposite Bobbo..maybe if I had insisted on the wideneck OFC II instead of accepting the standard neck from Al, I would have thought differently and not traded off the II. TnT | ||
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| Tony Calman |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 4619 Location: SoCal | top 6-string Adamas that I have, in order: 1. slothead a/e #50 2. acoustic 47 RI 3. a/e OFC 1 4. any of my three early a/e Adamas 1 1687's 5. 1687-2 a/e reissue Above are easy to compare...and I take into consideration that I don't have a 2080 and I don't care about the nut width from a 1688 to a Hurricane. Also, each guitar projects differently and the only way you can evaluate if someone else is playing it and you are listening to it - U681T is a good example where my wife describes it as surround sound. below are depending on mood: 6. 1687-8 a/e reissue very close to the -2 but there seems to be a difference. 7. a/e U681T 8. a/e Millennium - non textured top, not in the same league as any of the above but refreshing, better than the other non-textured Adamas tops that I have had. | ||
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| Mr. Ovation |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 7247 Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | I guess it sorta is a matter of taste. I loved my OFC I, but when I got the OFC II, it was just so much better sounding to me. Much smoother, for lack of a better term yet with definition. | ||
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| stonebobbo |
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Joined: August 2002 Posts: 8307 Location: Tennessee | I think you're right, Tim about the wide neck. I'm a believer. Smoother is a great description, Miles. And the OFC2 is killer for playing out. | ||
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| cholloway |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 2793 Location: Atlanta, GA. | Different opinions... Good thing they make more than one model. | ||
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| Gallerinski |
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| Joined: May 2008 Posts: 4996 Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Tony Calman: DING, DING, DING ... we have a winner. My thoughts exactly. top 6-string Adamas that I have, in order: 1. slothead a/e #50 2. acoustic 47 RI 3. a/e OFC 1 4. any of my three early a/e Adamas 1 1687's 5. 1687-2 a/e reissue Moddy, did you compare the NAMM 2080 to an OFC II? NOT the same guitar. NAMM has a different bowl, slightly different sprezels and an epoxy dovetail neck attachment. I had them side by side and they do not sound identical. But they both sound good. | ||
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| Beal |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127 Location: 6 String Ranch | slot #35 C-Series 1984 #1 #220 2080D then the '39twins and all the 42s and.... not always played in that order | ||
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| moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15682 Location: SoCal | You know, the kicker for this is that there's no right or wrong answer except your own and that will change on a daily basis. My original thought was that the NAMM 2080 was a damned good guitar. Then I ear tested it to the OFC slothead (ding!). My opinion of the NAMM 2080 still remains high but my opinion of the slothead went up. And of course, today, what's on the stand in my office? The 87C...... | ||
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| ProfessorBB |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 5881 Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Beal’s comment reminds me of my junior year in high school. A group of us were all standing around before class one day in the student parking lot, admiring our souped up 10 year old Fords, Chevys and Volkswagons, when the kid who lived in the big house pulls in with his brand new ‘67 427/435 Corvette. It sort of stuck an exclamation mark on relativity. | ||
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| AlanM |
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Joined: April 2008 Posts: 1851 Location: Newington, CT | "It sort of stuck an exclamation mark on relativity." - Nice turn of phrase! | ||
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| MusicMishka |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 5567 Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Door #1: Left to Right: '83 1688-7; '81 1687-7; '78 1688-8 #543; '78 1687-8 #119; '09 OFC II 4/8... Door #2: 1948 D-28 2007 OM-28 PBC Door #3: 1998 Taylor 615 Custom Sitka/Presentation Brz 1998 Taylor W-65 Claro Walnut 2006 Taylor 810 FL Sitka/Madagascar 2004 Taylor 30th Anniv. Engelmann/Flamed KOA Bottom line: I rotate what I play all the time...sure I have my favorites...and sure, there are always better/more expensive/different guitars out there... These are just a part of the herd and does not include the electrics... But, I really like what I have and appreciate what others own as well... Just part of what makes this all so much fun... | ||
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| TAFKAR |
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Joined: April 2008 Posts: 2985 Location: Sydney, Australia | Mike, I choose Door #1. When will they arrive? :) | ||
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OFC slothead vs. NAMM 2080