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Slipkid
Posted 2008-05-12 11:36 AM (#39896)
Subject: Took the leap into recording hardware



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I purchased a Line 6 instrument / computer interface devise.
So far I'm very happy with it.
The Line 6 seems to communicate very well with Gearbox.

It came with Ableton Live Lite which I am not really pleased with but I have the same beef with similar programs.
IMHO, someone needs to come up with a beginner version with something less than a 400-page user manual. The designers, bless their little techie hearts, pile on feature after feature until the basics are buried like the proverbial needle in the haystack. They seem to forget that there are novices out here. Let me get my feet wet with just half the bells & whistles and I'll built up to the more exotic features later. Just imagine how much more they would sell if they nurtured the noobies rather than just throwing them into the deep end.

I've decided to use Reaper. Not that it is less complicated but for the simple reason that I can put the cursor on a button and it will tell me what the function is. When you are just starting out that in itself is a big help.
I’ll just print out 30 pages of manual at a time and read them during lunch
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Waskel
Posted 2008-05-12 11:44 AM (#39897 - in reply to #39896)
Subject: Re: Took the leap into recording hardware



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Welcome to the dark side.
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cliff
Posted 2008-05-12 12:06 PM (#39898 - in reply to #39896)
Subject: Re: Took the leap into recording hardware


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. . .he'll be selling-off his boat in NO time.


btw;
I just hooked up a pair of KRK RockIt5 monitors that I bought off of Al . . .

. . . MAN! . . . What a Difference!!

It's like going to the doctor's and having all the wax removed from your ears!!


(Thx,Al!!)
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FlySig
Posted 2008-05-12 12:29 PM (#39899 - in reply to #39896)
Subject: Re: Took the leap into recording hardware



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Originally posted by Slipkid:

IMHO, someone needs to come up with a beginner version with something less than a 400-page user manual. The designers, bless their little techie hearts, pile on feature after feature until the basics are buried like the proverbial needle in the haystack. They seem to forget that there are novices out here. Let me get my feet wet with just half the bells & whistles and I'll built up to the more exotic features later. Just imagine how much more they would sell if they nurtured the noobies rather than just throwing them into the deep end.
I have the same complaint with Guitar Tracks Pro. The features are amazing, and honestly one could record a commercial CD with it. But they use all the jargon, some of it their own and some of it industry standard, with no regard for the noob. There is an excellent users' forum for GTP where there are answers to most any problem. Without it, there would be no way to even get started with the basics.
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cliff
Posted 2008-05-12 12:36 PM (#39900 - in reply to #39896)
Subject: Re: Took the leap into recording hardware


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I would assume that Line6 has a UsersForum . . .
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Capo Guy
Posted 2008-05-12 12:42 PM (#39901 - in reply to #39896)
Subject: Re: Took the leap into recording hardware



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When recording, most of the time, "Less Is Better".
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Weaser P
Posted 2008-05-12 12:54 PM (#39902 - in reply to #39896)
Subject: Re: Took the leap into recording hardware


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"I would assume that Line6 has a UsersForum . . ."

They do (I'm playing around with a UX1 - the smaller version of Brad's UX2), but I found it only slightly more helpful. Post, wait a week, get useless answer, re-post, wait again...Guess I'm just used to forum's that actually have people in them. What I did find helpful was their initial tutorial. Well worth the time to go through it. Of course, after I did, I switched to Reaper as well.

In any case, I'm still trying to fill out the basic requirements (i.e. the monitors you just picked up, Cliff.). Thank God the process isn't holding up my world tour.
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lanaki
Posted 2008-05-12 2:03 PM (#39903 - in reply to #39896)
Subject: Re: Took the leap into recording hardware


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cliff, what did you hook your new monitors up to? do you have a mixing board or are you going through your computer/software?
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cliff
Posted 2008-05-12 2:36 PM (#39904 - in reply to #39896)
Subject: Re: Took the leap into recording hardware


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I've got a 6-channel Behringer mixer.
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Slipkid
Posted 2008-05-12 2:38 PM (#39905 - in reply to #39896)
Subject: Re: Took the leap into recording hardware



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Originally posted by cliff:
I would assume that Line6 has a UsersForum . . .
Yes... I have gotten some good advise there.
Here is a couple links they sent me to:
http://benvesco.com/tonemonster/the-digital-age/2008/basics-setup/
http://benvesco.com/tonemonster/the-digital-age/2008/basics-project...
http://benvesco.com/tonemonster/the-digital-age/2008/basics-recordi...

And I have started lurking on the Reaper forum.

They are nothing like the OFC tho.
On the OFC I feel I can post a question about advanced quantum mechanics and get a good answer.
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cliff
Posted 2008-05-12 2:44 PM (#39906 - in reply to #39896)
Subject: Re: Took the leap into recording hardware


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quantum mechanics? no.

string theory? yes.
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fillhixx
Posted 2008-05-12 3:09 PM (#39907 - in reply to #39896)
Subject: Re: Took the leap into recording hardware



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A good Funny answer,
not a good correct answer.
Unless Temp's on line....
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Waskel
Posted 2008-05-12 3:30 PM (#39908 - in reply to #39896)
Subject: Re: Took the leap into recording hardware



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StudioCentral
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2008-05-12 9:48 PM (#39909 - in reply to #39896)
Subject: Re: Took the leap into recording hardware


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Reading all this ,confirms ,that my aquiring a Korg D3200 was a real good move,everything is of great quality,it has a biggish manual,yet , much of it is self explanatory , and in the long run cheaper than computer add -ons !!

Vic

..if only it had a bigger LCD screen..
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stonebobbo
Posted 2008-05-12 9:52 PM (#39910 - in reply to #39896)
Subject: Re: Took the leap into recording hardware



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Vic, I just got a D3200, too. I've been using these self-contained units for a long time so it just seems to fall into place. A very fat manual, but the Quick Start guide has everything I need to get up and going.
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2008-05-12 10:05 PM (#39911 - in reply to #39896)
Subject: Re: Took the leap into recording hardware


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Stonebobbo ,Congrats !!

Do n`t ya just Love the quality of the pre -amps ,and that session drummer, so easy ,and fun to play with.. :)

Vic
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Capo Guy
Posted 2008-05-12 10:08 PM (#39912 - in reply to #39896)
Subject: Re: Took the leap into recording hardware



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Originally posted by cliff:
quantum mechanics? no.

string theory? yes.
Also String Tubes.
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lanaki
Posted 2008-05-12 10:10 PM (#39913 - in reply to #39896)
Subject: Re: Took the leap into recording hardware


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just checked out the korg d3200. that's a serious gadget! looks like tons o' fun. oh man, oh man...

oh yeah...and brad, congrats on the line 6. let's hear some stuff from ya soon!
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stonebobbo
Posted 2008-05-12 11:00 PM (#39914 - in reply to #39896)
Subject: Re: Took the leap into recording hardware



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The D3200 is fifth generation for me ... started back on my friends Dokoder reel-to-reel with four channels, then onto a used four channel Tascam cassette unit, then to a Tascam 564 mini-disc with xlr inputs, and most recently an Akai DPS16. The Korg just adds a bit more all the way around. I think the session drummer is alright, but mainly as a placeholder when putting the other parts down. I suppose it'll be fine for demo tracks, but you need a live drummer to really make it right ... besides, I need someone to bring the pizza. I think the best new feature I'm getting on the Korg is the integrated mastering capability. I found this unit brand new for $900 shipped, including a JoeMeek large diaphram condensor mike and a free t-shirt. I already had the outboard gear I need so it's pretty much plug and play.
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Weaser P
Posted 2008-05-13 9:30 PM (#39915 - in reply to #39896)
Subject: Re: Took the leap into recording hardware


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Brad - check this home recording out.
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2008-05-13 9:47 PM (#39916 - in reply to #39896)
Subject: Re: Took the leap into recording hardware


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Slipkid, I apologize for high -jacking your thread

Mr.Weaser , thank you for the link

Vic

Brad..PM sent
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Weaser P
Posted 2008-05-13 10:18 PM (#39917 - in reply to #39896)
Subject: Re: Took the leap into recording hardware


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Mr Weaser...?

Did my Dad join the Club?!?!
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ofajen
Posted 2008-05-13 10:33 PM (#39918 - in reply to #39896)
Subject: Re: Took the leap into recording hardware


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I've been recording on various rigs since 1983. These days I mainly use a Yamaha standalone because it's simple and portable. I still have a pair of 3M wide track analog machines and a DAW set up on my old Mac, but it's the standalone machine that I generally start with and usually it gets the job done. The preamps are a bit noisy and lack sufficient gain for use with ribbon mikes, so I usually use a small two channel preamp and run signals in at line level.

Cheers,

Otto
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FlySig
Posted 2008-05-13 10:56 PM (#39919 - in reply to #39896)
Subject: Re: Took the leap into recording hardware



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So today I recorded a backing track to practice some solos. No big deal, the Elite plugged in to one channel and mic'd into another. A little compression, a little reverb, a touch of chorus. Sounds ok, so save the final mix as a WAV. Convert the WAV to MP3.

Now the dang software for my MP3 player won't recognize the file to download it to my player. Two good hours down the drain.

Sometimes I miss that cheap little cassette recorder I had 30 years ago. The backing track would have been recorded in 2 minutes.
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2008-05-13 11:06 PM (#39920 - in reply to #39896)
Subject: Re: Took the leap into recording hardware


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Originally posted by Weaser P:
Mr Weaser...?

Did my Dad join the Club?!?!
Sorry Mr. Weaser ... Sir ! :)

OFAJEN,

The low impedance of ribbon mics. is exactly the reason why I `m thinking of getting one with build -in pre -amp, alternatively , try to use a transformer :)


http://microphonium.blogspot.com/2007/07/ribbon-microphone-transfor...


Vic
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