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twistedlim
Posted 2010-12-17 8:20 AM (#359346)
Subject: Nails 101


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If you are a finger picker, James Taylor has an interesting lesson on how he takes care of his nails to play day in and day out. Interesting, but a lot of time I would say...
Click on the Nails 101 video ...

http://www.jamestaylor.com/guitarlessons/
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ksdaddy
Posted 2010-12-17 8:38 AM (#359347 - in reply to #359346)
Subject: Re: Nails 101


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Oh God no. No nails. Eeek. That's like... um well, actually it's like nails on a chalkboard to me (how convenient).

I keep them clipped back to borderline bloodletting. I rely on the meat on my fingertips.
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Darkbar
Posted 2010-12-17 8:53 AM (#359348 - in reply to #359346)
Subject: Re: Nails 101



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Yeah, I'm more of a picker and clip my nails down to the pink. Can't stand to feel nails on the board or the strings.
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an4340
Posted 2010-12-17 9:47 AM (#359349 - in reply to #359346)
Subject: Re: Nails 101


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when you clip your nails, don't cut them down to the meat. Always leave a little of the white. I had to see a doctor about this.
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Rooster
Posted 2010-12-17 10:05 AM (#359350 - in reply to #359346)
Subject: Re: Nails 101


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My left hand has the nails trimmed noticeably closer than does my right. Whenever I feel a nail hitting the fretboard, it oogs me out wicked bad. I had to take a cpl days off once on account of clipping w-a-a-A-A-A-a-y-y-y too close and drawing blood.
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Waskel
Posted 2010-12-17 10:21 AM (#359351 - in reply to #359346)
Subject: Re: Nails 101



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Just shy of the pink for me. I've found a good gauge is pressing up on the fingertip and the edge of the skin is even with the edge of the nail. Any shorter than that and my fingertips get sore from the nail digging in when I press down on the fretboard. Same with the picking hand.
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Slipkid
Posted 2010-12-17 10:31 AM (#359352 - in reply to #359346)
Subject: Re: Nails 101



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Why do it yourself when you can easily hire a gang of small Korean women to do it for you?
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Waskel
Posted 2010-12-17 10:50 AM (#359353 - in reply to #359346)
Subject: Re: Nails 101



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We're talking about fingernails, Brad.
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ksdaddy
Posted 2010-12-17 11:04 AM (#359354 - in reply to #359346)
Subject: Re: Nails 101


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Back in '94 I did something horrible to my left index finger, slammed it in a door or dropped something on it, I don't even remember now. The nail went black and I lost it. Ever since, that nail is my barometer to clip my nails. Right now there's maybe a generous 1/16" sticking out past the pink and it feels like I'm snagging or bumping it constantly. Sends chills up my spine just being aware of anything sticking out, thinking I'll hit something and rip it off. I'll probably dig out the clippers once I hit 'add reply'.
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Darkbar
Posted 2010-12-17 11:23 AM (#359355 - in reply to #359346)
Subject: Re: Nails 101



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I've seen women play with long nails, even on the left hand. I don't know how they do it.
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nikon4004
Posted 2010-12-17 11:26 AM (#359356 - in reply to #359346)
Subject: Re: Nails 101


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Meat of the fingertips for me...I HAVE the sould of nail on a fretboard
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Darkbar
Posted 2010-12-17 11:51 AM (#359357 - in reply to #359346)
Subject: Re: Nails 101



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Originally posted by nikon4004:
I HAVE the sould of nail on a fretboard
This reminds me of something......
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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2010-12-17 12:06 PM (#359358 - in reply to #359346)
Subject: Re: Nails 101


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....I use these: AlaskaPiks exclusively for all my fingerpicking (with a regular thumbpick though) including banjo picking....

....my friend uses them for all of his classical guitar work including the one for the thumb.

They are GREAT!
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ScottMt
Posted 2010-12-17 12:22 PM (#359359 - in reply to #359346)
Subject: Re: Nails 101


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I saw Dolly Parton play once on an interview. And like me, you might think, "how does she play guitar with such large, ......, fingernails?" Well she played open G tuning and simply barred the top couple strings with her index finger.

When I was in Matt Smith's quickie free workshop, a bunch of little girls with cute pink guitars showed up. Some of them had never ever touched a guitar before. Matt quickly (and I mean quick!) re-tuned everyone's guitar to open G and had everyone playing songs in no time. It was really sweet to see and actually quite fun.
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G8r
Posted 2010-12-17 4:32 PM (#359360 - in reply to #359346)
Subject: Re: Nails 101


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I'll be contrary to the majority opinion here (there's a surprise!) and advocate for fingernails. Of course, a lot depends on the dynamics of the song - sometimes you need the softer legato stroke of the meat of your finger, other times the staccato strike of your nail to bring out an important phrase. With nails I can do either, just by varying the angle of attack on the strings. Without nails I'd be limiting myself to far less expression.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2010-12-17 4:52 PM (#359361 - in reply to #359346)
Subject: Re: Nails 101


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I was always too nervous to grow nails, plus I did thing like changing oil, working in the dirt and other manual labor that caused them to get dirty and break if they weren't short. For the past 5 years or so, I have no nail on the left hand and about 1/16 to 1/8 of white showing on each finger of the right hand. I've done pretty well on maintenance so that my fingers look like a fingerpicker, until I start playing.
I tried finger and thumb picks years ago, but never got the hang of it, maybe because I didn't try the right kind.
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Darkbar
Posted 2010-12-17 5:00 PM (#359362 - in reply to #359346)
Subject: Re: Nails 101



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Originally posted by G8r:
I'll be contrary to the majority opinion here (there's a surprise!) and advocate for fingernails. Of course, a lot depends on the dynamics of the song - sometimes you need the softer legato stroke of the meat of your finger, other times the staccato strike of your nail to bring out an important phrase. With nails I can do either, just by varying the angle of attack on the strings. Without nails I'd be limiting myself to far less expression.
All the pros use nails or finger picks, i'm just too clumsy when I try...hit the wrong string, snag a string, twang when I mean to mute. But you, g8r, have the patience to learn the right way to play this friggin instrument, and it shows in your rapid improvement. More power to ya!
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fletcher
Posted 2010-12-17 9:21 PM (#359363 - in reply to #359346)
Subject: Re: Nails 101


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Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
I was always too nervous to grow nails, plus I did thing like changing oil, working in the dirt and other manual labor that caused them to get dirty and break if they weren't short.

Current work being septic system maintenance, my nails stay short. But that aside, I've never tried growing them out. Use a thumb and 2 finger picks when playing a pedal steel but could never get used to them when playing an upright guitar. Something about the different hand position I guess.
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Waskel
Posted 2010-12-17 10:02 PM (#359364 - in reply to #359346)
Subject: Re: Nails 101



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Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
I did thing like changing oil, working in the dirt and other manual labor that caused them to get dirty
And all this time I thought you were a lawyer.
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MWoody
Posted 2010-12-17 10:13 PM (#359365 - in reply to #359346)
Subject: Re: Nails 101



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I have nails the consistency of a 3"x5" card and have tried a couple of times to use hardener (Formaldehyde) and still can't get beyond the 1/8" without a big rip or split. It just ain't meant to happen.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2010-12-18 12:19 AM (#359366 - in reply to #359346)
Subject: Re: Nails 101


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Originally posted by Waskel:
Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
I did thing like changing oil, working in the dirt and other manual labor that caused them to get dirty
And all this time I thought you were a lawyer.
Maybe that's why I like to do some real work sometimes. That and I'm cheap.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2010-12-18 12:37 AM (#359367 - in reply to #359346)
Subject: Re: Nails 101



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Online guitar guru Justin Sandercoe states that he goes to the salon and gets those glue-on fingernails for pickin'.

Yeah, his friends rag him for it but he sez that it is really effective. (or affective)
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71Jasper
Posted 2010-12-18 10:09 AM (#359368 - in reply to #359346)
Subject: Re: Nails 101


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If God had intended us to play with nails, He wouldn't have given us fingerpicks.
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FlySig
Posted 2010-12-18 11:29 AM (#359369 - in reply to #359346)
Subject: Re: Nails 101



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Originally posted by Tim in Yucaipa:
....I use these: AlaskaPiks exclusively for all my fingerpicking (with a regular thumbpick though) including banjo picking....

....my friend uses them for all of his classical guitar work including the one for the thumb.

They are GREAT!
Tim, thanks!!! I've been working on fingerstyle recently and prefer the control/sound of nails, but hate having long nails. These look like a simple and cost effective solution.

Kaki King uses the glue on extensions, which look fine on a chick but too metro- for a stud like me. ;)
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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2010-12-20 7:46 PM (#359370 - in reply to #359346)
Subject: Re: Nails 101


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FlySig,

…for me they are the perfect solution. You can keep the normal length "man nails" but still get great tone & response whilst fingerpicking.

The brass ones are a bit scratchy on roundwounds, but the plastic ones are great.

You even trim them to suit your style just like regular nails using clippers & nail files!
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