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| Nick B. |
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Joined: December 2009 Posts: 686 Location: Route 66, just east of the Cadillac Ranch | Last week I stumbled across a guitar shop on the web advertising an old Balladeer with a two digit serial number. I sent an email asking if the guitar was still available and asked for pictures. To my surprise I got a response that the guitar was available and that they would post pictures in a few days. I'm always a day late and a dollar short on things like this, so rather than waiting for the pictures to be posted I called and asked the shop owner to describe the condition of the instrument. He said the top had no cracks but the neck had severe finish checking. He went on to say that the peghead had been repaired and who ever did it had cleverly covered up the repair with an oversized aftermarket truss rod cover (you're going to want to remember this). He described the rosette as a narrow black ring that went right up to the soundhole with white twisting lines and what looked like a group of grapes. He mentioned the top had white and binding and wood purfling. Then he said, "It is serial number 45," and offered me a two day inspection period. He sounded very honest and I was willing to risk paying shipping both ways just to get a look at it. Well... Notice the oversized aftermarket truss rod cover. ;) The finish is very thin, much like I would expect on a violin. The guitar has been played, but not abused. The guitar was delivered in a gig bag. The vintage case is one that I happen to have. I had never seen this sound hole before, but it is mentioned in The History of the Ovation Guitar (top of page 32). The label is missing, but the end of the neck block is clearly stamped #045. The guitar has some condition issues but nothing to keep me from playing and loving it. I immediately replaced the medium strings with extra light strings because the action is so high. Even with extra lights, the bass is enormous. I feel like I just won the lottery. Thanks for looking, Nick | ||
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| tremor |
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Joined: November 2009 Posts: 177 Location: Milford, MI | I have read and re-read this. What am I missing? Is this a one off or am I out of the loop? What is it? Not being negative... | ||
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| MusicMishka |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 5567 Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Early Balladeer w/original Lifton case...nice grab Nick! | ||
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| Nick B. |
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Joined: December 2009 Posts: 686 Location: Route 66, just east of the Cadillac Ranch | Originally posted by tremor: Well, it felt good while it lasted. :) I have read and re-read this. What am I missing? Is this a one off or am I out of the loop? What is it? Not being negative... Tremor, It's an old Ovation guitar and the rosette only appeared on the first production guitars. I think it's pretty cool and I'll bet Jérôme and others will agree with me. | ||
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| tremor |
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Joined: November 2009 Posts: 177 Location: Milford, MI | Nick: I just didn't know what it was. I have never seen anything like it. As I stated, not being negative. | ||
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| tremor |
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Joined: November 2009 Posts: 177 Location: Milford, MI | To be honest. My dumb a@# thought the sides of the guitar looked like wood. I didn't realize it was a shinny bowl. Very cool find! | ||
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| Paul Templeman |
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 5750 Location: Scotland | wow! That's a very rare bird. The earliest one I've seen and played was I think #37 which was almost identical, with the "aftermarket" TRC but a traditional wood marquetry rosette. It sounded amazing. | ||
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| Nick B. |
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Joined: December 2009 Posts: 686 Location: Route 66, just east of the Cadillac Ranch | Originally posted by tremor: Don't give it another thought. I actually had a pretty good laugh over your remark. Sometimes I get a little too excited over things. I should have included a few more details. To be honest. My dumb a@# thought the sides of the guitar looked like wood. I didn't realize it was a shinny bowl. Originally posted by tremor: Thank you very much!Very cool find! | ||
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| Nick B. |
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Joined: December 2009 Posts: 686 Location: Route 66, just east of the Cadillac Ranch | Originally posted by MusicMishka: Thank you Mike! I hope all is well with you. Early Balladeer w/original Lifton case...nice grab Nick! Originally posted by Paul Templeman: That's what I was looking for. ;) Thanks Paul! And yes, it sounds BIG. wow! That's a very rare bird. The earliest one I've seen and played was I think #37 which was almost identical, with the "aftermarket" TRC but a traditional wood marquetry rosette. It sounded amazing. I can't help but think the excitement CWK must have felt as this was going out the door. | ||
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| G8r |
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Joined: November 2006 Posts: 3969 | Wow, outstanding find! you can really see the helicopter rotor-width planks in that 3-piece top. Bet it's a tone monster. Congratulations! | ||
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| roundsound |
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Joined: February 2003 Posts: 86 Location: northern virginia | Beautiful find - congratulations. A real museum piece in my opinion....how sweet to own and play such a direct tie back to the very origins of the company and ideas we all so love. | ||
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| Old Man Arthur |
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Joined: September 2006 Posts: 10777 Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | That is Wild! I am happy for you. :cool: | ||
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| cholloway |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 2793 Location: Atlanta, GA. | Originally posted by Nick B.: If you mean Beal, its CWK II and he was probably still in school when this was built. I can't help but think the excitement CWK must have felt as this was going out the door. If you're talkin about Charlie, it's CHK. I'm just sayin'. | ||
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| Nick B. |
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Joined: December 2009 Posts: 686 Location: Route 66, just east of the Cadillac Ranch | G8r and OMA, Thanks for the kind words. Originally posted by roundsound: I couldn't agree with you more. I really feel honored to own it. Beautiful find - congratulations. A real museum piece in my opinion....how sweet to own and play such a direct tie back to the very origins of the company and ideas we all so love. Originally posted by cholloway: Colin, If you mean Beal, its CWK II and he was probably still in school when this was built. If you're talkin about Charlie, it's CHK. You are correct. I caught my mistake about 10 seconds after the time expired to edit my post (funny how it always works that way). I was thinking CHK. | ||
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| standing |
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Joined: December 2008 Posts: 1456 Location: Texas | Outstanding find, Nick. Just another "old Balladeer" huh? ;) Congrats! | ||
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| Slipkid |
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301 Location: south east Michigan | Nick... You've come a long way baby! I remember back when you first came on board. Ah yes... they grow up so fast. | ||
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| Mark in Boise |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12761 Location: Boise, Idaho | Very nice. I didn't know they made one with a black rosette and white grappevine, then I saw one on page 32 of The Book. | ||
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| Bluebird |
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Joined: May 2002 Posts: 1445 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | Very, very nice! | ||
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| Damon67 |
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Joined: December 2006 Posts: 6996 Location: Jet City | That's a treasure for sure. Congrats! | ||
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| Jérôme |
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Joined: March 2004 Posts: 1388 Location: Paris/France | Congrats Nick, you found a true piece of O's history!! It's a rare and wonderful guitar. According the pics, she seems to be in very good condition for such an old lady and I've never seen "white on black" rosette before this one. If she sounds as good as the Balladeer #22, you can't be disappointed. ;) J :) | ||
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| marenostrum |
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Joined: August 2007 Posts: 1008 Location: Tuscany, Italy | Nick, congratulation ! This guitar is simply amazing. Many times I looked at the brochure on the Jerome website just for this particular model/ornament. It 's really a wonderful guitar and, despite the rarity, the black rosette is just a wonderful touch. As you said, like the one in "the book". I know you just bought it, but I would immediately subscribe to the list of those who want it when you will decide to part with .... ;) | ||
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| Darkbar |
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Joined: January 2009 Posts: 4536 Location: Flahdaw | Nice! Worth about twofiddy, but I'll give you $300 since you're an OFC member. | ||
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| Charlie Ramon |
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Joined: August 2004 Posts: 709 Location: Germany | Congratulations! There's a picture of the long TRC in an early brochure on Jerome's website. There is written "Balladeer" on it which seems not to be written on yours. Interesting detail. Early Balladeer Brochure Karl | ||
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| Nick B. |
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Joined: December 2009 Posts: 686 Location: Route 66, just east of the Cadillac Ranch | Originally posted by standing: standing, Outstanding find, Nick. Just another "old Balladeer" huh? ;) Congrats! Thank you. I was trying to be humble. :) Originally posted by Slipkid: Thank you. I have been very fortunate, but I still consider myself an Ovation neophyite...Ovaphyite. I'd better look that up, it's probably something disgusting. Nick... You've come a long way baby! I remember back when you first came on board. Ah yes... they grow up so fast. Originally posted by Mark in Boise: Thanks Mark. When the dealer described the rosette over the phone, it threw me too. Seeing how it's constructed was quite a surprise; it's like a thin plastic stick-on. It looks to me to be very susceptible to damage, which may be why they stopped using them. I wish I knew how many guitars actually left the factory with this rosette. Very nice. I didn't know they made one with a black rosette and white grappevine, then I saw one on page 32 of The Book. Bluebird and Damon67, Thanks for the kind words. Originally posted by Jérôme: Thank you Jérôme. There are condition issues that the pictures don't reveal. The peghead has been repaired and the finish on the neck is disintegrating. There is also a Barcus Berry transducer installed through the endpin. Whomever installed it did a nice job. You are correct...I can't be disappointed. :) Congrats Nick, you found a true piece of O's history!! It's a rare and wonderful guitar. According the pics, she seems to be in very good condition for such an old lady and I've never seen "white on black" rosette before this one. If she sounds as good as the Balladeer #22, you can't be disappointed. ;) J :) Originally posted by marenostrum: Thanks for the note marenostrum. I agree the rosette has a distintive look. I'll keep you in mind. ;) Nick, congratulation ! This guitar is simply amazing. Many times I looked at the brochure on the Jerome website just for this particular model/ornament. It 's really a wonderful guitar and, despite the rarity, the black rosette is just a wonderful touch. As you said, like the one in "the book". I know you just bought it, but I would immediately subscribe to the list of those who want it when you will decide to part with .... ;) Originally posted by dark bar: Thanks, You're going to want me to cover shipping, right? ;) Nice! Worth about twofiddy, but I'll give you $300 since you're an OFC member. Originally posted by Charlie Ramon: Karl, Congratulations! There's a picture of the long TRC in an early brochure on Jerome's website. There is written "Balladeer" on it which seems not to be written on yours. Interesting detail. Early Balladeer Brochure Karl Thank you. Jerome noticed the same thing about the TRC not having "Balladeer" on it. Jerome's #22 doesn't either. I'm not sure when they started adding "Balladeer" or when they went to the smaller TRC. So much to learn. | ||
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| Beal |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127 Location: 6 String Ranch | that's a stock trc. As I recall the plan was to have Delux Balladeer on the long ones, but like all plans it fell short in the exicution so whatever they had got used. Very nice acqusition. | ||
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