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6L6
Posted 2011-05-17 12:39 AM (#352222)
Subject: Help Me Get Up to Speed on Ovation!


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I need a "Cliff Notes" quickie version of Ovation model collectability. Could someone state the models made over the years in terms of collectability?

Many thanks!

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muzza
Posted 2011-05-17 2:28 AM (#352223 - in reply to #352222)
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You could try Ovation Gallery...
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2011-05-17 8:29 AM (#352224 - in reply to #352222)
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Or OvationTribute
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FlySig
Posted 2011-05-17 9:47 AM (#352225 - in reply to #352222)
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Collectibility wise, an original slothead would be tops. Prototypes would be second. After that dunno, a lot depends on what you like. Most production models are not truly collectible in that they aren't likely to gain value or even keep up with inflation. Yet many are superb guitars as players, like the early acoustics which you can find for $300 to $500 and they blow away most any new guitar that costs thousands. My 1976 Patriot compares sonically at least equal with my Adamas.

Deacon, then Breadwinner, then Viper, then Preacher Deluxe, then Preacher would be my order of market desirability in the old solid body electrics. Again, not likely to be a money making prospect to buy one.

Generally the "Collectors Edition" is not more or less collectible today than other models, with the exception of the '87 if I got it right.

Any used Ovation or Adamas is likely to hold it's value if you take care of it.
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6L6
Posted 2011-05-17 11:39 AM (#352226 - in reply to #352222)
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Thanks to all!

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G8r
Posted 2011-05-17 11:48 AM (#352227 - in reply to #352222)
Subject: Re: Help Me Get Up to Speed on Ovation!


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Originally posted by FlySig:
Generally the "Collectors Edition" is not more or less collectible today than other models, with the exception of the '87 if I got it right.
Don't forget the "Book" Elite...
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standing
Posted 2011-05-17 11:59 AM (#352228 - in reply to #352222)
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Originally posted by FlySig:
Deacon, then Breadwinner, then Viper, then Preacher Deluxe, then Preacher would be my order of market desirability in the old solid body electrics. Again, not likely to be a money making prospect to buy one.
No UKII?
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stonebobbo
Posted 2011-05-17 1:13 PM (#352229 - in reply to #352222)
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Here's my take on the question:

Original shiny bowls
Early Breadwinner
Deacon 12
Typhoon Fretless Bass
Slothead
Early Adamas 1
1537/1547
1987 Collectors
Ultra GP
Book Elite
Adamas Millenium
OFC1
OFC2
USA Doubleneck
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Damon67
Posted 2011-05-17 1:25 PM (#352230 - in reply to #352222)
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If you are talking about how much a guitar is percieved to be worth by the general public, I'd say the Ultra GP is the most "Collectible". Especially if your criteria is based on an overinflated worth.

At least with a slothead you can come up with some valid reasons for it's collectibility. There's no reason for the GP other than Josh Homme playing one while in Kyuss & some with QOTSA. They're great guitars don't get me wrong, but a comparable asian made LP copy from the same era wouldn't fetch more than $500. In my opinion, at $2k+, it's just plain silly.
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Beal
Posted 2011-05-17 3:59 PM (#352231 - in reply to #352222)
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Go buy Bobbo a beer and talk about it and play some of his, specially that tan one.....


Cliff can write you some notes but his writing is kinda hard to read sometimes...
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Patch
Posted 2011-05-17 4:40 PM (#352232 - in reply to #352222)
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1538 perhaps?

Mine's still for sale even.
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fletcher
Posted 2011-05-17 6:10 PM (#352233 - in reply to #352222)
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Originally posted by stonebobbo:
Here's my take on the question:
Original shiny bowls...
I think you could go a step farther and break down the shiny bowls. I've found their "collectibility" at least in terms of their difficulty in finding and obtaining to fall into this order:

Contemporary Folk Classic
Glen Campbell Deluxe Balladeer
Glen Campbell 12-string
Josh White with zig-zag rosette
Small sound hole 12-strings
Balladeers, Deluxe Balladeers and Classics
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2011-05-17 6:46 PM (#352234 - in reply to #352222)
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Depending upon features, of course, I think the one-off custom builds may have more value relative to production models, but the actual amount of the increased value is likely dependent upon the subjective perception of the original owner and not likely to reflect the custom model's actual higher cost. Therefore, for the original and still current owner, like me, actual value of a custom is meaningless because its perceived value to me is way up there.
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6L6
Posted 2011-05-17 7:20 PM (#352235 - in reply to #352222)
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What would be the going price these days for a nice Glen Campbell Deluxe Balladeer?

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stonebobbo
Posted 2011-05-17 7:27 PM (#352236 - in reply to #352222)
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The last one I know of that changed hands went for just north of 2k. But that was a while ago and you don't see them that often.

Beal had a good idea ... you ought to come over to CasaBobbo and check a few things out. No GCDB, but some other stuff that should be on most lists. MarkInBoise is gonna be here on Monday the 30th, so I thought maybe have a bit of a wider gathering. Mark your calendar Bill and come on over. I'll send you an email.

And the tan one is the one that beats all others... no doubt about that.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2011-05-17 8:27 PM (#352237 - in reply to #352222)
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Originally posted by stonebobbo:

And the tan one is the one that beats all others... no doubt about that.
A tan is always a good thing.

Go to Casa Bobbo.....
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6L6
Posted 2011-05-17 8:58 PM (#352238 - in reply to #352222)
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Thanks for the invite, Bobbo! Unfortunately, I'll be on vacation in Vail, CO at that time.

Get your tail on back over to Cameron's!

Bill
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stephent28
Posted 2011-05-18 2:23 AM (#352239 - in reply to #352222)
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Bill, drive down to Denver from Vail. I have a few guitars lying around.
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fillhixx
Posted 2011-05-18 11:39 AM (#352240 - in reply to #352222)
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Collect the whole set!
It's more valuable when complete.
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Michael R. Winters
Posted 2011-05-18 7:15 PM (#352241 - in reply to #352222)
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If you're ever around my neck of the woods, you can try out my shiney bowl.
Almost 43 years old and still sounds and looks miraculous.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2011-05-19 4:38 PM (#352242 - in reply to #352222)
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Originally posted by stephent28:
Bill, drive down to Denver from Vail. I have a few guitars lying around.
And I know where there are a few more as well.
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stephent28
Posted 2011-05-19 5:15 PM (#352243 - in reply to #352222)
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Brad, your collection now shames mine.
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6L6
Posted 2011-05-19 5:22 PM (#352244 - in reply to #352222)
Subject: Re: Help Me Get Up to Speed on Ovation!


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Thanks to all for the quick history lesson!

Bill
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2011-05-19 6:24 PM (#352245 - in reply to #352222)
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Originally posted by stephent28:
Brad, your collection now shames mine.
Only in quantity, my friend. You have some spectacular modelss . . . the Collings, twin custom baritones, several from boutique builders, a Martin OM42 Koa Ltd, and an original slothead, to name just a few.
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standing
Posted 2011-05-19 7:40 PM (#352246 - in reply to #352222)
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Originally posted by Michael R. Winters:
If you're ever around my neck of the woods, you can try out my shiney bowl.
Almost 43 years old and still sounds and looks miraculous.
YOUR shiny bowl? I thought you bought it for your Mom?

;)
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