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Location: Seymour, Tennessee | Vince Gill, Keith Urban, & Brad Paisley did a song each for the Award Show's little tribut to him.
They hoped back & forth between the artists & Glen and I noticed an Ovation on the stage.
Brad's performance was the best, Vince's pretty decent, but I though Keith simply took to much artistic license with his.
Anyway, they had Glen come up at the end and Vince handed him the O.
I was like, "Great he's gonna play a little!"
He strapped it on and started playing a little but there was a glitch and no sound.
Bummer.
I am waiting IMpatiently for Dec 15th to get here! |
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Location: Utah | It was a very touching tribute to Glen. |
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Location: Florence,SC | Got it taped. Hope to watch it tonight. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Yep, I suffered through the CMA's to get to that point. I thought the tribute was cool very cool and the Country Music machine really does have their act together, at least for putting on a tv show compared to the other genre's these days.
I just wish I could somehow find it in me to like the music. I don't get hearing the "southern drawl" from folks whom the closest they got to the south before they became "country" was a box of KFC. Actually, the more I think about it, some of the music is pretty good... but as soon as someone from Pittsburgh or Illinois or Sydney Australia starts singing like they're from Tennessee... I tune out.
By all reason, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Foghat, ZZ-Top and the B-52's should be country groups. Are they not country cause they actually come from the south? Is that the schtik, you can't be Country if you are one?
And let me be clear, I recognize that there are some phenomenal musicians in the Country music scene. I just don't understand either why they are playing Country music, or depending on the tunes, why what they are playing is called Country music.
Bottom line... I just don't get it and I seem to be in the minority on this.
FWIW... I never pictured Glen Campbell as country. I just don't see him and someone like Faith Hill or Hank Williams JR, or Rascal Flatts as the same genre of music. In fact based on hearing the above, I can't picture them ever being in the same building at the same time... and yet... they are. Hmmmm
I thinks I needs a Country Musik Edumacation ya'all. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Never been there, but I think Australia is pretty far south.
Glen seemed awfully country at first with his drawl and style, but became more urban or Hollywood after the Smothers Brothers got him going. I've never been a big Country Music fan, but the nasally drawly voices and the twangy Telecasters and fiddles have been pretty much replaced with stuff that I can listen to and actually understand the lyrics. |
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Location: ms | Glenn hit it really big as a solo artist around the time country was going trough that phase of songs being very over produced. Strings,strings and more strings. Didn't seem to hurt his stuff much, the songs were just too good to stop. I think Leon Russel produced some of his stuff. As to MR Ovations point/s i'm with you i think there are some great players and singers in country, heck i've got some good friends in country music but it is all over the place. Country, country rock, country rap and a butt load of country crap. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | For all intents, country music today is yesterday's rock and roll. Compare the driving beat, lighting quick guitar leads and vocals to the songs of the 70's, 80's, etc.
Now compare the auto-tuned crap they try to push as modern music.
Country sounds better and better to me every time I listen to it. |
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Location: Flahdaw | I've decided that I like a particular type of music, and it doesn't matter if it's considered folk, country, pop, acoustic, singer/songwriter, easy listening, etc. My songlist is pretty varied, but as long as I can play it on acoustic guitar, I like it. Yeah, and I like some "country" stuff, and I don't give a crap if you don't like it. I don't know or care what kind of music Glen Campbell played, but Wichita Lineman was a really great song, and I happily play it. |
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Location: Florence,SC | When Glen put on that Ovation, the roar from the crowd must have been deafening in that place. That was an "Ovation Moment"!
I'm sure most people in the building wouldn't know an Ovation from a Silvertone, but it was the picture of the matched pair ... Glen and his Ovation. |
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Location: nashville | More hot chicks in County these days than the 70's 80's rock. The Chick from Lady Antibellum graduated from my daughters school, She has come for visit several times to meet and talk to the kids.
I am a singer song writer kinda guy but their is some good county. If you like the more traditional county, Jamie Johnson is old school outlaw. You'll find him "Somewhere between Jennings and Jones" |
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Location: Tennessee | Jamey Johnson ... "it may be lonely at the top, but it's a bitch at the bottom". He's certainly got a good sound and top notch production.
Country music is the same as it ever was ... lots of different flavors and sub-genres. Even Marie Osmond was a little bit country. Nothing's changed in 40 years.
Originally posted by stephent28:
Country sounds better and better to me every time I listen to it. Time to lay off the popcorn. |
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Location: nashville | 19 days and counting until I see Glenn at the Ryman, takeing my Mom and Dad. If I had better seats I would take my Ovation. |
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | Having met several "country" songwriters at workshops, I can tell you that most of them write what I would call folk, or acoustic. They sell the songs in Nashville and they are promptly "twanged" up.
Tia Sillers who wrote the Dixie Chicks grammy winning tune, "There's Your Trouble" and the crossover hit, "I Hope You Dance", and her husband, Mark Selby who wrote some "country" songs, but also wrote a LOT of Kenny Wayne Shephard's songs, spoke about "mailbox money" - the royalties they get for selling these songs to country artists.
Gene Nelson is another one I met. His biggest hit was probably Kathy Mattea's "Sixteen Wheels and a Dozen Roses". But they guy plays classical and jazz when he's playing for himself. (Great guy too. He did a song about an abusive father at one of the workshops. I know a guy whose father used to beat on him and I wanted him to hear it so I asked Gene which album it was on. He said no one would record it because they didn't want to offend THEIR fathers. So he took my address and mailed me a CD.)
And then there's Craig Carothers who was here for the gathering last year. Great songwriter, and you'd never know he is considered a country songwriter.
But Nashville is where the money is, so that's why so many are taking perfectly good songs and, well, ruining them. |
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Location: SoCal | I've always thought that Gentle On My Mind was a folk song, not country. And how you can claim that Wichita Lineman and By The Time I Get To Phoenix are country is beyond me. They are pop tunes..... |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by CanterburyStrings:
And then there's Craig Carothers who was here for the gathering last year. Great songwriter, and you'd never know he is considered a country songwriter. And an Oregon boy. |
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Location: Texas | I guess CW is when you wear boots and play, regardless of the song. It has always baffled me...but I think are and have been more CW "artists" that weren't, than were. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Originally posted by jay:
I guess CW is when you wear boots and play, regardless of the song. LOL... I guess KISS is Country :)
I guess, or at least what I'm getting from this conversation, is that if someone wants to be associated as Country, they just need to say they're Country.
I've never really been one to put music into categories. There certainly are some songs that claim to be Country that I like. I didn't realize Shania Twain was Country until someone told me. I mean Mutt Lange's list of artists are AC/DC, Nickelback, Def Leppard, Outlaws, Foreigner, The Cars, Bryan Adams, Billy Ocean, Savoy Brown, The Corrs, Maroon 5 and.... Shania Twain.
Like several others, I like certain songs for certain reasons and their genre really isn't important, so I'll modify that I don't like the twangy, fake-southern-drawl-version of Country Music.
From the "things that make ya go huh?" category.... I remember when Georgia Satellites came on the scene on the "Rock" charts and I thought that was odd, but then heard Hank Williams Jr. do the same "Keep Your Hands to Yourself" and they were calling it Country. If you haven't heard the two versions... Hank's version is pure Rock'N Roll, I don't care what they call it.
As for Glen... I guess I just think of him as the "singer/songwriter" type. Easy Listening, Pop, Folk. But hey, if Country pays the bills... then so be it. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | posted November 11, 2011 12:39 AM
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I've always thought that Gentle On My Mind was a folk song, not country. And how you can claim that Wichita Lineman and By The Time I Get To Phoenix are country is beyond me. They are pop tunes.....
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | I've always liked CW. It goes back to the early days when real CW transitioned into rockabilly and then into early rock and roll. The really old twangy voice stuff I can pass on, but a great steel guitar taking the lead solo in a 12-bar rockabilly tune? I like it. Then again, my musical tastes probably extend out a bit farther than most. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Maybe if Glen had sung "Rhinestone Janitor" like we did when we were cleaning the Hi-Vee store in Iowa at night, people wouldn't label him as Country. But maybe he never would have sold another record. |
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Location: Denver | It boils down to what you like. When I was pushing my songs the "country" people said I was too "folksy" and the "folk" people said I was too "country". The pop people said I needed less acoustic and more electric. When you look at who influenced me growing up (Glen Campbell, Roger Miller, Jim Croce, Kenny Loggins) it makes sense. If I like it....I like it and I don't try to categorize anymore. Confused? Not as confused as I am. God bless Glen Campbell... |
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Location: Waurika OK | I'm from oklahoma and that should make me country as far as musical taste goes, but it doesn't. I grew up listen to a lot of country music and like some songs. I grew up in the fifties and listened to a lot of rock and roll and that's where I have basically stayed.
I don't like country videos. On the other hand, some of the rock groups that some here rave about, I just don't get. So for me it comes down to THE SONG, if I like it I don't care what genre of music it is.
As far as the drawl thing, we think some of you have unpleasant accents. lol
Thankfully, there is more than one style of music. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Most of the crap that they call "Country" music is only Country to the Focus Groups.
Where is the Fiddle? The Mandolin? The Steel Guitar? The Upright Bass?
(I hear-tell that Real country music is called "Alternative Country" nowadays)
It is a thin line between the Genres...
What would corporate radio call the Allman Brothers nowadays?
Lynyrd Skynyrd? ZZ Top? CSNY? David Allen Coe?
Is it country cuz you are from Georgia or Florida or Texas or Tennessee?
Or can farmers from eastern Oregon and Washington play Country?
BTW-- I only watched a few minutes of the CMA Awards,
and the music that I heard was Rock-n-Roll. |
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Location: Nashville, TN | Glen..a True Talent...God fearing..What a Legacy! The Beach Boys, BIG session guy...unique & unforgettable songs..What a player..I saw him play a Preacher 12 in a jam with George Benson on a 6 string..he kept right up with him..Wow! ....We've been Blessed to have this guy as an inspiration! |
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | I have often heard of the Campbell/Benson guitar collaboration but have yet to see it anywhere. |
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Glen Campbell on the CMA's last night...
