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guitarwannabee
Posted 2011-12-23 8:52 PM (#345193)
Subject: c.s.n. early years


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o.k. when i think of the early c.s&n , i think of acoustic only.then i saw this you tube and was suprised to see stills playing a gibson s.g. and everyone was playing electric back then. there is even a unknown electric keyboard player but not singing on this song .
i think that they might of wanted to get into some heavy electric rock & roll back then but their acoustical style ended up selling the best for them.
what a great group one of my favorites for sure.GWB

yhttp://youtu.be/FzM5a5d5j2s
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2011-12-23 9:07 PM (#345194 - in reply to #345193)
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Try this....
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2011-12-23 9:21 PM (#345195 - in reply to #345193)
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Originally posted by guitarwannabee:
there is even a unknown electric keyboard player but not singing on this song
That "unknown" keyboard player would be Neil Young.
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alpep
Posted 2011-12-23 9:21 PM (#345196 - in reply to #345193)
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eh neil young on keys? unknown?
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alpep
Posted 2011-12-23 9:23 PM (#345197 - in reply to #345193)
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eh neil young on keys? unknown?
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2011-12-23 9:27 PM (#345198 - in reply to #345193)
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The most likely explanation for the electric guitars is not that they wanted to get into heavy rock, but that this was the early 70's, Ovation had just pioneered a workable aoustic pickup but it was not yet mainstream. Back then making 3 acoustic guitars work at large outdoor gig levels was a major pain in the ass. The pragmatic solution would be to use electrics
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2011-12-23 11:03 PM (#345199 - in reply to #345193)
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Not an acoustic guitar in the bunch...

Almost Cut My Hair 1974

Almost Cut My Hair 2009

Wow... 35 Years difference.
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rick endres
Posted 2011-12-24 12:58 AM (#345200 - in reply to #345193)
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They always did two sets in those days - an all-acoustic set and an all electric set. The acoustics were miked way back in the beginning, and they sounded fine. The electric set was augmented by 20+ minute jams on songs like "Southern Man" and "Carry On," since they didn't have a lot of material in the beginning. Listen to "4 Way Street," a live 1970 recording. There's an acoustic set and an electric set. The acoustic disc is, in my opinion, much more fully resalized. CSNY could rock, but their acoustic stuff was - and is - exquisite...
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guitarwannabee
Posted 2011-12-24 3:29 PM (#345201 - in reply to #345193)
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thanks 4 the u-tube save arthur. i thought it was interesting that neil at the time seemed like a back up player then and not a big part of the group . does anyone know when he actually emerged as a part of the c.s.n. band? he definitly had the most success of all of them. GWB
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Waskel
Posted 2011-12-24 3:36 PM (#345202 - in reply to #345193)
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He was a part of the group. The videos posted happen to be Stills/Crosby centric songs. You notice Graham Nash didn't get a lot of camera time either...
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Joe Rotax
Posted 2011-12-24 10:17 PM (#345203 - in reply to #345193)
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Originally posted by guitarwannabee:
... does anyone know when he actually emerged as a part of the c.s.n. band? GWB
At some point they all ended up being afraid of him.
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rick endres
Posted 2011-12-25 12:00 AM (#345204 - in reply to #345193)
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Even though CSN recorded the first album as a trio, they immediately recruited Neil to get more muscle for their live shows, so CSNY was born soon after CSN came into being. In fact, Neil was at Woodstock, but - quirky as always - he refused to be filmed. Stills and Young were both friendly rivals from their Buffalo Springfield days. Both of them were accomplished lead guitarists with healthy egos. They butted heads a lot; sometimes it made for great music, and sometimes it was just crap...
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Geostorm98
Posted 2011-12-25 2:26 PM (#345205 - in reply to #345193)
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4 Way Street - a towering achievement. One of the greatest live recordings ever. Especially sides one and two!
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standing
Posted 2011-12-25 2:58 PM (#345206 - in reply to #345193)
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Originally posted by Geostorm98:
@rick
4 Way Street - a towering achievement. One of the greatest live recordings ever. Especially sides one and two!
"sides"?

;)
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Nick B.
Posted 2011-12-25 3:24 PM (#345207 - in reply to #345193)
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Originally posted by Geostorm98:
4 Way Street - a towering achievement. One of the greatest live recordings ever.
I was a member of an 8-track tape club in the early 70's and was automagically sent 4 Way Street to try out. I wasn't a CSN fan at the time and had every intention of returning it, but being lazy I failed to send it back in time and was forced to buy it. Best mistake I ever made. I ended up buying 2 or 3 copies before it was over.
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rick endres
Posted 2011-12-25 4:09 PM (#345208 - in reply to #345193)
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I've gotten every version of 4 Way Street - vinyl, 8-track, cassette, and now CD. The "ambience," for lack of a better term, of that recording is phenomenal; you feel like you're sitting in the audience
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guitarwannabee
Posted 2011-12-26 2:14 AM (#345209 - in reply to #345193)
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i think this is about the time he made it into the group GWB
http://youtu.be/-QsSc95pPPY
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2011-12-26 2:30 AM (#345210 - in reply to #345193)
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Nice Video... Everybody's playing them archtops.

All those folks knew each other back in the sixties... Read This about Buffalo Springfield.
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Darkbar
Posted 2012-01-03 6:57 AM (#345211 - in reply to #345193)
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Who knew that Tom Jones was in the group????!!!!
Wow!
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Waskel
Posted 2012-01-03 9:29 AM (#345212 - in reply to #345193)
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Tom Jones had (still has) a great set of pipes. Check some of the other people he's worked with - Gilmour, BS&T, Cash, ect...
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rick endres
Posted 2012-01-03 1:15 PM (#345213 - in reply to #345193)
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Tom Jones filled in for Crosby when CSNY appeared on the Tom Jones Show. Crosby's girlfriend Christine Hinton (who inspired Guinevere) had just been killed in a car wreck, and Crosby was a basket case. Jones sang his parts. I believe Crosby was there, but was essentially a zombie.

Graham Nash said, "David went to identify her body, and he was never the same after that." This is when Crosby's downward spiral of heavy drug use began.
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jay
Posted 2012-01-03 3:28 PM (#345214 - in reply to #345193)
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Graham Nash said, "David went to identify her body, and he was never the same after that." This is when Crosby's downward spiral of heavy drug use began.
At some point he became a volunteer, instead of a victim. I think his time in TDC brought that to his attention. His life seems a little less chaotic now.

Wonder if he still carries a 45 with him where ever he goes?
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rick endres
Posted 2012-01-03 4:09 PM (#345215 - in reply to #345193)
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No - he only did that for a short time when he was uber paranoid (when they asked him why he carried it, he said, "Two words: John Lennon."). These days he seems to be pretty much on an even keel. Saw Crosby and Nash this past February, and they still sounded great.
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Darkbar
Posted 2012-01-03 4:24 PM (#345216 - in reply to #345193)
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Originally posted by rick endres:
(when they asked him why he carried it, he said, "Two words: John Lennon.")
I think that, like the rest of us, he was just hoping to run into Yoko Ono, alone, no witnesses.
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Weaser P
Posted 2012-01-03 4:44 PM (#345217 - in reply to #345193)
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...and, just like that, the New Year's resolution goes out the door.

Almost three days. Well done, dB.
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