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Location: sugarland,tx. | I THOUGHT THIS WAS A DESENT,FAMILY,FUN,SHARING,
I COULDN`T WAIT TO JOIN,WEBSITE.
SOUNDS MORE LIKE THE OVATION MAFIA.COM.
WITH THE INSULTS FROM GUYS WHO DIDN`T EVEN MAKE AN OFFER OR BID.SAME TO YOU MAFIA GUY,I`AM GLAD MY MOUTH IS NOT AS DIRTY AS YOURS.(MOODY P.I.)
I`AM SO GLAD YOU ALL ARE PERFECT AND NEVER MAKE MISTAKES.
SOMEONE SAID THEY WERE GONNA BID I TOOK A CHANCE.
MANY VIOLATED EBAY,CONTACED ME AND TRYED TO BYPASS EBAY,BUT THAT OK FOR THEM TO DO.
THIS IS MY PROPERTY NO ONE OR EBAY IS GONNA TELL ME,YOUR JUST JELOUS.
THIS WAS MEANT TO BE FUN,NOW I CAN`T WAIT TO GET OUT AND AWAY FROM PROFAIM PEOPLE THAT ARE PERFECT,NEVER MAKE MISTAKES,DODN`T UNDERSTAND OTHERS DID ME WRONG FIRST.
LIKE 12,500.00 LIE OFFER FROM A GUY STEVEN BOWMAN FROM HOLLYWOOD,ASKED ME BANK INFO AND DID NOT COME THROUGH.WAS A DIRTY TRICK.ANYBODY KNOW THIS GUY? HECTOR2002@EV1.NET NOT ALL FAULT.
IF YOU GUYS ARE SO SMART WHY DID ENYBODY TELL ME BEFORE? |
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Location: San Bernardino, California | FOAD |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | CLICK. |
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Location: NJ | the bottom line is id you sold the guitar. If you sold the guitar than it is over, if you did not sell the guitar then you are the loser. |
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Location: SoCal | Hector, if my mouth is dirty it's because you put a bad taste in it. You made a contract on ebay, then you broke it. To top it off, you posted negative feedback on somebody who was unfortunate enough to have won your auction, not realizing that he was dealing with a dishonorable person. Negative feedback can't be erased and now he's stuck with it and will have to explain it every time he does business on ebay.
The people on this website are like a family Hec. And you would have been welcome. But not after you tool people around and play games.
That clean enough and plain enough for you Hector? |
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Location: sugarland,tx. | YOU STARTED IT.MANY OF YOU LIED AND SAID TO LEAVE THE AUCTION RUN THAT THEY WERE GONNA BID.I HAVE THE EMAILS TO PROVE IT.SO I`AM GONNA LOOSE 3K OR MORE BECAUSE SOMEONE LIED OR BACKED OUT,NO WAY.YOU CAN SHOVE EBAY AND CONTRACTS.CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE GUY FROM HOLLYWOOD WHO OFFERED 12,500 AND TRICKED ME.SO I`AM GONNA LOOSE MONEY BECAUSE OTHER JERKS FIRST.PEOPLE ARE JELOUS AND LOVE TO PLAY GAMES.YOU PLAYED GAMES SO IT`S MY TURN.
IF YOU KICK A DOG,THINK BEFORE, THE DOG MAY COME BACK AND BITE.I THREAT PEOPLE THE WAY THEY TREAT ME.PEOPLE DO THINGS THEY SHOULD NOT DO ALL THE TIME.I`AM IN CONTROL. TOO BAD MISTER GOODIE ,GOODIE.WHAT CHURCH DO YOU GO TO? |
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Location: SoCal | Hec ol' boy, I go to a church that says love thy neighbor as thyself, not screw everybody because one or two people have screwed me.
I think most people here would be willing to overlook the ebay contract issue but when you deliberately leave negative feedback for somebody who wins your auction and you won't sell, well, that's just plain nasty.
As for you being in control, well, I suspect that nobody here would want to do business with you. So good luck with your "control". |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Let me get this straight. Hector tried to screw people, and it bit him in the butt, and now he got screwed by giving bank account info etc and lost bids ... mmmh. Well that's alright. Hec, did you even have the guitar to begin with? Reading all this crap makes me wonder, and quite thankful that Serge didn't loose any money. Honesty and full disclosure, and not double dealing is a lot better then being a crumb chaser after a buck. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Hector, With all due respect I fail to see how YOU are the one who was wronged. You turn this around like YOU have been screwed or persecuted in some way. The fact it is that if you had no intention to sell to the high bidder, all YOU had to do was cancel the auction just before it ended. But YOU didn't. YOU screwed up. Even after the auction, if you did not want to sell the guitar to Serge, all you had to do was say so. But for some insane reason YOU had to leave him negative feedback. Again YOU are the one who fucked up, not anyone else. As far as offers like 12,000 outside of ebay, nobody can control that. If YOU believed the offers, then that is YOUR fault, nobody elses. You have a nice guitar that many people would love to own. Unfortunately YOU have shit the bed so badly that nobody will sleep with you. The problem is facing YOU right in the mirror. |
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Location: south of munich, Germany | this is my first posting on this item.. but I can't hold back.
If this thing happened to me on German ebay hector would receive a letter from my lawyer (and as I have an insurance I wouldn't pay anything for the lawyer)
I think there are two different aspects:
- if someone is bidding outside of ebay... he just breaks ebay rules.. and maybe can banned from ebay if someone really cares about it
- if anybody (in this case hector) starts an ebay auction and the auction is finished, there is a legal contract between seller and high bidder. And the high bidder has the right to receive the guitar in this case. (I had one ebay seller who could not deliever the item he had offered.. therefore he had to pay back not only the money I had paid to him, but also the difference that I had to buy to organize it somewhere else....)
all the confusion about the first auction (closed by ebay) and the resulting bids outside of ebay is just hectors fault, but the result was: no contract out of the first auction... maybe breaking some ebay rules, but who cares about, as there are no real consequences
but the 2nd auction has a legal contract as result....
the negative feedback hector left just characterizes himself... it does not need more comments on this
hope my english is not too bad to understand.... but I really couldn't keep quiet...
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Location: NJ | Du sprechenzi English sehr gut!!! |
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Location: Midland, MI | Say, hey, I know a guy in the Detroit office of the Secret Service. Real nice guy; helped him and his partner investigate some COMPUTER FRAUD a couple years ago. They caught the bad guy and he went to jail. They said if I ever needed anything....
Just sayin' is all...
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Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | Impugning character is probably sufficient. Extracting the pound of flesh gets a bit messy. |
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Location: Lafayette, Louisiana | What I want to know is how someone as stupid as Hector ended up with such a classic guitar as this Adamas slothead? |
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Location: SoCal | he's got a -7 AND a -8 |
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Location: sugarland,tx. | I CONTACTED SERGIO ABOUT NOT SELLING.
DO HAVE THE GUITAR.
FIRST AUCTION GOT CANCELLED,MANY GOT MAD SO DID NOT WANT TO CANCELL EARLY.
DID NOT KNOW OFC BEFORE EBAY AUCTION.
TALKING TO SERGIO,GONNA REMOVE NEG FEEDBACK.
I TREAT PEOPLE THE WAY THEY TREAT ME.
GOT MANY OFFERS UP TO 12,500, TRICK,THERES YOUR REAL JERK.NOT MY FAULT.
SERGIO IS HANDLEING IT BETTER THAN YOU GIRLS.
SEND THE MONEY I`LL SEND THE GUITAR,THAT SIMPLE.
HEC. |
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Location: SoCal | Hector,
Hopefully, you can work it out with Serge and put this mess behind you. |
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Location: Tennessee | Yup, Hector, work it out with Sergio. He's a good guy, and a great musician. If you care about the guitar, you know it will be in good hands and put to good use by Serge the way it should. Check out his music at
www.sergiolara.com
And fer gawd sakes, DO NOT put your other slothead up on eBay. ;) |
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Location: Canton (Detroit), MI | Hector, as one eBay seller to another, if you should ever sell another guitar on eBay, the proper way to get maximum money while protecting yourself is to either start the bidding at the minimum money value you will accept, or put a reserve at that value and start it lower.
Then do NOT listen to offers outside the auction, force them to bid. If they are serious, they will. I've done fine with either approach.
There is no way to cheap out eBay---they will get their cut, they've designed it that way. Your approach to selling this guitar was guaranteed to cause hard feelings.
Best wishes for an equitable settlement of this. Serge is a good and honorable person, from everything I have seen here.
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Location: Converse, Texas | Is hector for real, or does he just get off on this stuff? |
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Location: Scotland | Serge, the only way I would buy anything from this asshole is to fly over to TX, see the guitar and if it checks out give him the dough, I certainly would not send him a penny. Having watched this whole sorry episode pan out, I'd trust this charlatan about as far as I could spit a dead rat.
Hector, with absolutely no respect, why didn't you just bite the bullet and pay the few bucks for ebay's reserve fee. Then everyone wouldn't think you were a total c*"t.
It's pretty simple, if it doesn't meet the reserve then the market tells you you're asking too much. Purely as a piece of "expeditionary marketing" the reserve fee on $15K is not unreasonable. |
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Location: Lafayette, Louisiana | Hey guys, Hector sent me an email calling me stupid and a few other things. This guy is nuts. What a prick! |
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Location: SoCal | ok guys and gals...I do believe this will be resolved in the very near future, for both Serge and Hector. so, suggest not worrying about it. |
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Location: Scotland | While pricks like Hector continue to trade on Ebay I think there is serious cause for worry, regardless of the outcome of this particular sorry situation |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Maybe we can let it lie till Serge gets or doesn't, the guitar. Once that is settled then let the trashing begin. I think Segre has a way to have the guitar procured with one hand on the money and the other on the guitar.
Good Luck Serge
Moody, Is this f@#^%$* true that you have a f$#$@$%^ $$#$%% **&%$%^ mouth? I never fcuikng noticed that. |
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