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Jeff K
Posted 2006-02-02 12:06 AM (#331069)
Subject: Limited for sale


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Third time's the charm, right? Hopefully this will hold true here. I'm offering my Breadwinner Limited for sale again.

For those not familiar with this guitar, it is a 1979-1981 Breadwinner Limited in the Barnwood finish. This was one of only 500 made. Mahogany body and neck, ebony board, all-original active elctronics and hardware (excepting the truss rod cover; more on this below.) Condition is VG. Serial number is E 18778, making this a late-production one if other serials I've seen for these is any indication.

First, where do the problems lie? Over its lifetime, this guitar has acquired some small finish dings, as visible in the pictures below.





The second one just barely goes through to the wood; the first one is a finish ding only. There is also a 3/16" ding in the top edge near the other two dings, which I do not have a photo of (but can get one if someone wants to see it.) There are also a number of small finish dings scattered over the back of the guitar, including an area of small indentations from a belt buckle under the trough (?) of the tummy cut. These do not go through the finish. There are some small dings around the points of the lower body. The headstock tip is virtually free of wear, but there is a 2/16" ding on the back of the headstock, right under its "peak." On the front of the guitar, there is an extremely shallow depression which shows up under direct lighting; it can be seen below.



This guitar was recently sent into the Mothership for a refresher; the main work that was done there was a fret level and dress and a nut level and dress. Also, the bridge pickup mount was repaired and the fret edges (which had previously been rough) were filed and brought even with the edge of the fingerboard; they are now very smooth. I will include all repair documentation I recieved from Kaman Music with the guitar.

Playability-wise, the guitar now has medium-low action and extremely smooth frets as a result of the Mothership's handiwork. The main problem in this area is with the upper frets; the notes played from fret 22-24 will sound slightly flat relative to pitch unless you apply some serious pressure on the string (i.e., with a fingernail.) If you typically do not use these frets in your playing, you won't notice any problems intonation-wise on any other areas of the neck.

The truss rod has been replaced with one of MWoody's wood pieces; it's an Ebony laminate over walnut and compliments the guitar well. I will include the original in the sale, though I think you'll agree that the wood TRC looks better.



Also included is the original case, which is in good condition. It is scuffed from use, and there is corrosion on the metal trim. The lid for the compartment under the neck has come off, though it may be reparable. The ribbon connecting the case halves is still intact. Pics are available on request.

My price is $850, though I'm willing to bargain. Unfortunately, I cannot accept trades. Shipping from Ohio to the lower 48 will run about $35. I will pack the guitar in the Ovation protector box that was used to ship it back to me from Conneticut. I can provide most any picture of the guitar; PM me and I'll snap some for you.

Breadwinners (and especially Limiteds) are going up in value and this one is in an unusual finish; I've only seen two other Barnwood Limiteds. Snag this nice one now as a collector's piece that you can play.

Other pics, in no particular order:







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llampton
Posted 2006-02-02 9:38 AM (#331070 - in reply to #331069)
Subject: Re: Limited for sale


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Location: Traverse City, MI
I can't see the pics, could you send to me at
LLampton@gtresort.com

I'd love to see what you got to offer - for this is the guitar i need:)
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-02-02 5:59 PM (#331071 - in reply to #331069)
Subject: Re: Limited for sale


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i think that is a great looking guitar.
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Jeff K
Posted 2006-02-03 1:17 AM (#331072 - in reply to #331069)
Subject: Re: Limited for sale


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Hey, llampton-

These pics are hosted, so I can't send them to you via email. You may want to try looking at them on your home computer, if you were trying to view them at work before.
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noah
Posted 2006-02-03 7:06 AM (#331073 - in reply to #331069)
Subject: Re: Limited for sale



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Jeff K...

is this you?
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Beal
Posted 2006-02-03 8:59 AM (#331074 - in reply to #331069)
Subject: Re: Limited for sale



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Pretty clean guitar!
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2006-02-03 1:33 PM (#331075 - in reply to #331069)
Subject: Re: Limited for sale



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Do the legs appearing in the first picture come with the guitar?
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Jeff K
Posted 2006-02-03 5:55 PM (#331076 - in reply to #331069)
Subject: Re: Limited for sale


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Originally posted by noah:
Jeff K...

is this you?
On Harmony-Central and the Ernie Ball forums, yes, that is my avatar.

ProfessorBB, I would like to keep my mobility intact... :(
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Jeff K
Posted 2006-02-10 12:44 PM (#331077 - in reply to #331069)
Subject: Re: Limited for sale


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Hey, llampton:

Sorry i've been out of touch for so long-I'm going to try and get a gallery started in the "member access" section so that you can view the pics. It should be up on Sunday.
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Jeff K
Posted 2006-03-10 5:04 PM (#331078 - in reply to #331069)
Subject: Re: Limited for sale


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I know I'm competing with Woody's auction, which makes this a tough sell, but she's on Ebay anyway, with less than a day left:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7395890571
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MWoody
Posted 2006-03-10 5:15 PM (#331079 - in reply to #331069)
Subject: Re: Limited for sale



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Cool!
It's not a competition. You are in the original collectible division and I am in the love it/hate it aftermarket artsy-fartsy column.

Besides - My TRC is well represented by you! :D
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Weaser P
Posted 2006-03-10 5:48 PM (#331080 - in reply to #331069)
Subject: Re: Limited for sale


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Good luck to both of you guys. I would love to relieve either one of you of those (or T28 of his Ltd) but,as they say, timing is everything. You'll find a home for them, I'm sure.
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Jeff K
Posted 2006-03-10 8:36 PM (#331081 - in reply to #331069)
Subject: Re: Limited for sale


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Originally posted by MWoody:
Cool!
It's not a competition. You are in the original collectible division and I am in the love it/hate it aftermarket artsy-fartsy column.

Besides - My TRC is well represented by you! :D
That it is! :D
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OldLiverJones
Posted 2006-03-10 9:18 PM (#331082 - in reply to #331069)
Subject: Re: Limited for sale


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We're hoping this sales soon so we don't have to look at your feet anymore.
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Jeff K
Posted 2006-03-10 9:52 PM (#331083 - in reply to #331069)
Subject: Re: Limited for sale


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Originally posted by OldLiverJones:
We're hoping this sales soon so we don't have to look at your feet anymore.
Not at this rate... :o

50 watchers and 0 takers.

If it doesn't sell this time, I may just keep it around.
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MWoody
Posted 2006-03-10 10:19 PM (#331084 - in reply to #331069)
Subject: Re: Limited for sale



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Some reccomendations that you didn't ask for but, you know.

You set the first bid high rather than using the Reserve. You saved a few bucks but unless you start low most people will shy away. Let them warm up and think about how nice it would be to own that instrument!

You have zero Feedback. To some serious players that screams "No Way". I went out an bought some guitar picks, some veneer and some other things so stupid I can't remember what they are.

There is no cat in your pictures. Its not scientific but trust me on this one!

You got this guitar as a bargain as I remember. Enjoy it or send it to my house if you're tired of looking at it!
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edensharvest
Posted 2006-03-10 11:13 PM (#331085 - in reply to #331069)
Subject: Re: Limited for sale


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It's a beautiful guitar.

I'd be putting my name on it, but I just took the plunge and committed to an 1881NB2 Adamas 6-string that wiped my budget. Maybe the seventh time you list it...
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MWoody
Posted 2006-03-10 11:22 PM (#331086 - in reply to #331069)
Subject: Re: Limited for sale



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From whom or whence did you commit?

Is it the last guitar you will ever need?
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2006-03-11 1:27 AM (#331087 - in reply to #331069)
Subject: Re: Limited for sale


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Jeff,

You should keep it, or at least let me keep it in foster care for awhile. I *might* want to "adopt" permanently, and if given enough time, I could give you your asking price :D
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Standingovation
Posted 2006-03-11 5:13 AM (#331088 - in reply to #331069)
Subject: Re: Limited for sale



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I've always been curious about these limiteds. Other than the body shape, is there any other difference between it and a regular bwinner? Dave
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Northcountry
Posted 2006-03-11 8:47 AM (#331089 - in reply to #331069)
Subject: Re: Limited for sale
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Ahhh .. I did the "Cat" thing, it was not scientific...Cat is just a pester and I was sick of trying to take the shot and not get a cat part somewhere in the image... But the bids are rolling in so perhaps having a cat in the photo is the answer when the time comes to list it??

Randy
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cruster
Posted 2006-03-11 9:34 AM (#331090 - in reply to #331069)
Subject: Re: Limited for sale


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Guitar players will bid more frequently and higher on an auction that contains a cat somewhere in the pictures. The working theory at this point is that they subconsciously think it means that if they win the guitar, they'll get more....no, I can't do it. Boney, this one's yours, too.
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MWoody
Posted 2006-03-11 10:47 AM (#331091 - in reply to #331069)
Subject: Re: Limited for sale



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"is there any other difference between it and a regular bwinner? Dave"

I think it was a last ditch design to grab customers. The fact they showed up later meant that the later bridges and electronics were used. I think as Bill said, they where using up the piles of parts.

Have you tried the Limited shape? Very comfortable! Acres of neck!
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2006-03-11 2:14 PM (#331092 - in reply to #331069)
Subject: Re: Limited for sale


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Sounds like we need to start a "Limited Tour". :p :D
:p
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Designzilla
Posted 2006-03-12 9:42 AM (#331093 - in reply to #331069)
Subject: Re: Limited for sale


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Jeff, too bad it didn't sell, maybe it's a sign you need to keep it!

I thnk it's a great guitar, but every time you offer it I'm tapped!
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