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| Waskel |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840 Location: closely held secret | Jerome, go for it!! | ||
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Joined: August 2006 Posts: 2804 Location: ranson,wva | beautiful guitar!!!! jason | ||
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| Tupperware |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 4903 Location: Phoenix AZ | This was on ebay about a month ago. I think it didn't hit reserve. Dave | ||
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| TRboy |
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Joined: February 2003 Posts: 2178 Location: the BIG Metropolis of TR | quote from the auction; "I reserve the right to end this auction at any time if the right bid comes along. I also reserve the right to end the auction if the bids are not high enough" This is another auction where the seller doesn't use a reserve but states that he'll end the auction if he doesn't get what he wants for the item. I didn't think you were allowed to do that?..... ....Smells like a "Hector" to me. | ||
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| Tupperware |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 4903 Location: Phoenix AZ | Seller can end the auction at any time he wants to. I've done it myself. Nobody can force you to sell something against your will. Sure if you are interested in something and it disappears you're going to be disappointed, but that's life. If you wanted it bad enough you would have made the guy a sweet offer already. It's no different than putting your car out in front of your house with a "for sale" sign on it, somebody looks at it and is kind of interested but when they show up the next day to check it out again you tell them you changed your mind and it's off the block. Dave | ||
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Joined: August 2002 Posts: 8307 Location: Tennessee | I bid on this when it was on eBay a couple of months back. I believe it went for over $2K. This seller in France is not the seller from before, so either it's a quick flip or it's a scam. | ||
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Joined: February 2003 Posts: 2178 Location: the BIG Metropolis of TR | I thought that if you put an item on ebay (or any auction) with no reserve that you "agreeing" to sell it to the highest bidder no matter what the item brings. If a bidder wins an auction,he's "legally bound" to uphold his end of the contract and pay for the item......Isn't the seller also "legally bound" to sell the item he put up for sell to the winning bidder? I don't beleive it's right to bid on an "no reserve" auction and win (after 6+ days) just so the seller can say...."Oh! I'm sorry,I want MORE for my item that what you bid so I'm pulling it" The guy selling his car in front of his house is selling for a set price (reserve?) He states what he'll take and either you want it or not, unless he has a sign in the window saying "For Bids".... | ||
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Joined: May 2004 Posts: 2850 Location: Midland, MI | Originally posted by Trboy: The feeBay analog to that scenario would be the 'Buy It Now' listing with the 'Make An Offer' option. I've thought about running one that way, but whenever I've listed anything, I never seem to remember that it's available.The guy selling his car in front of his house is selling for a set price (reserve?) He states what he'll take and either you want it or not, unless he has a sign in the window saying "For Bids".... | ||
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| Tupperware |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 4903 Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Trboy: That's only after the auction comes to completion. Prior to completion there is no agreement. I think ebay stipulates that you can't pull the auction within the last 24 hours, but up until that time the seller is free to pull it for any or no reason. I thought that if you put an item on ebay (or any auction) with no reserve that you "agreeing" to sell it to the highest bidder no matter what the item brings. The car analogy is that I've got a car sitting in front of my house with "For Sale $5000." on it. A guy comes to the door with 5k in his hand. "I don't want to sell it". "But you have to, it says For Sale on it". "No I don't". "Why not". "Because I want $7000 for it". "But it says $5000." "So what" ... Maybe I'm the odd duck here, but I see no problem with cancelling auctions early if that's what the seller wants to do. It's HIS guitar, and we have NO rights to it UNTIL we win the auction. Now, to have someone WIN an auction and then refuse to sell it to them like asswipe hector did, THAT is against ebay rules and against any common decency. At least I hold myself to a higher standard. Dave | ||
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Joined: June 2006 Posts: 659 Location: Hiram, Georgia | historically, sellers are protected more than buyers, even in legally binding contracts, even when they refuse to sell. That's just the way it is. | ||
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| Jérôme |
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Joined: March 2004 Posts: 1388 Location: Paris/France | This guitar will be too expensive for my budget... The seller bought it 01-OCTOBER FOR 1999$! It's a very interesting guitar for its beauty and its history. J :) | ||
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| TRboy |
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Joined: February 2003 Posts: 2178 Location: the BIG Metropolis of TR | Originally posted by Tupperware: Dave,I agree with you :cool: that the seller can end his auction early if he wants to. My comments were prematurely aimed at the seller. (auction is still open) ....Maybe I'm the odd duck here, but I see no problem with cancelling auctions early if that's what the seller wants to do. It's HIS guitar, and we have NO rights to it UNTIL we win the auction. Now, to have someone WIN an auction and then refuse to sell it to them like asswipe hector did, THAT is against ebay rules and against any common decency. At least I hold myself to a higher standard. Dave I jumped the gun in assuming that the seller is planning to "pull a Hector" at the close of the auction by thinking his disclaimer statement gives him the "right" to refuse to sell to the winning bidder 'cause he didn't get what he wanted for the guitar or he had a better offer.......We'll find out in roughly 6 days! It is a beautiful guitar and I hope that Jerome wins it! :D | ||
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Joined: November 2004 Posts: 1330 Location: ms | Who is Jol Dantzig ? | ||
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| moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15682 Location: SoCal | Some guy over at Hamer..... | ||
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| Waskel |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840 Location: closely held secret | :D | ||
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| moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15682 Location: SoCal | John, hush... | ||
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| Waskel |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840 Location: closely held secret | Jol is... oh, gosh, would you look at that. Lunchtime. | ||
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| gulfcoast |
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Joined: November 2004 Posts: 1330 Location: ms | wabbit, it would do you good to skip lunch :D | ||
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| Waskel |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840 Location: closely held secret | It would do me better not to get squashed by a certain PI. | ||
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Joined: August 2002 Posts: 8307 Location: Tennessee | Originally posted by paulmac: Yup, that's the one. Beat me by a couple of bucks. :( Of course, I wasn't interested in flipping it.This guitar will be too expensive for my budget... The seller bought it 01-OCTOBER FOR 1999$! | ||
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| Beal |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127 Location: 6 String Ranch | That lable looks fishy to me, the signature, well, I just wouldn't want anything to do with that. | ||
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| Mr. Ovation |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 7247 Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Originally posted by gulfcoast: Just some dude :) Who is Jol Dantzig ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jol_Dantzig | ||
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12761 Location: Boise, Idaho | Bill, I still can't figure out how you got your hand through that hole to write on that label. Dantzig must be an OK guy if he races vintage Porsches. His racing website doesn't look too active lately, though. | ||
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| moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15682 Location: SoCal | I wonder if the 2.5 liter engine is a 4 or 6? | ||
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| Waskel |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840 Location: closely held secret | What's that name? Looks like "Cukaman". How appropriate. | ||
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Jol Dantzig's Blue Boy