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lanaki
Posted 2007-04-04 1:57 AM (#317640)
Subject: Vintage Adamas 1681-8 on the Bay


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http://cgi.ebay.com/Ovation-Adamas-II-Vintage-1981_W0QQitemZ2200991...
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Thanksforallthefish
Posted 2007-04-04 9:17 AM (#317641 - in reply to #317640)
Subject: Re: Vintage Adamas 1681-8 on the Bay
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oooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....

my mouse finger is twitchin!!!!

no, can't, we're going to Sanibel next week..

two-knobber stereo... looks spectacular in the other pictures.

someone's gonna be happy.

Glenn
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Waskel
Posted 2007-04-04 9:24 AM (#317642 - in reply to #317640)
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Go for it, Randy. You'll want to sell your w597.
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lanaki
Posted 2007-04-04 12:24 PM (#317643 - in reply to #317640)
Subject: Re: Vintage Adamas 1681-8 on the Bay


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i'd have to sell it first, john. i wonder if this vintage one would sound as good plugged in as the W597? i have yet to play a deep-bowled woven top adamas...
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Waskel
Posted 2007-04-04 12:49 PM (#317644 - in reply to #317640)
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Originally posted by Lanaki:
i wonder if this vintage one would sound as good plugged in as the W597?
Yes. The 2-knobber FET preamps sound great.
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lanaki
Posted 2007-04-04 12:52 PM (#317645 - in reply to #317640)
Subject: Re: Vintage Adamas 1681-8 on the Bay


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dangit, john. i was hoping you wouldn't say that!
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-04-04 1:00 PM (#317646 - in reply to #317640)
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I disagree with John. The 2 knobber technology is 30 years old and to my ears, sounds like it. Almost everything from the OP24 forward sounds better.

But there's a unique opportunity if it still exists (and I would guess that it does). Ovation went back a year or two ago and redesigned and rebuilt the 2 knobber preamps for the Adamas I reissues. They're going to use it for the OFC guitars as well. This means updated circuits and technology and a much much better sound.

Buy the 2 knobber Adamas and send it directly to the factory to have the new electronics put in it. It would be worth the money.
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Waskel
Posted 2007-04-04 1:00 PM (#317647 - in reply to #317640)
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Sorry. The gloss-top Adamii are very nice guitars, I just really feel the texture-top deep bowl Adamas I's and II's are superior to them.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-04-04 1:10 PM (#317648 - in reply to #317640)
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Acoustically, I agree with you John. But when it comes to the preamps, old is old. I realized this when I was playing next to somebody who had an LR Baggs undersaddle p/u in his guitar. It sounded so much better than my 1537......
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lanaki
Posted 2007-04-04 1:13 PM (#317649 - in reply to #317640)
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i have seen the re-issue currently on eBay and the starting bid is $1K higher than this vintage one. i like the idea of upgrading the electronics, paul.
i am not content with the 597 acoustically, although i agree with stuart miller that it is well balanced over the spectrum. it sounds best when fingerpicked, however, it lacks volume.

this server seems to be getting worse. anyone else notice?
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-04-04 1:17 PM (#317650 - in reply to #317640)
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Deep bowl textured top original (or reissue) Adamas 1's and 2's are the cats ass. Period. Yes there is a place for all the smooth topped stuff, but it ain't at the top of the ovation food chain - sorry.

2 knobbers sound good, but many show their age. Especially the jacks get very iffy. If it were me, I'd replace it with reissue 2-knobber because the holes are already there. To me the more modern electronics, such as Optima are way better. I just sold an Adamas I with OP-Pro. THAT was one of the nicest setups I've ever seen.

Dave
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lanaki
Posted 2007-04-04 1:19 PM (#317651 - in reply to #317640)
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Originally posted by Tupperware:
I just sold an Adamas I with OP-Pro. THAT was one of the nicest setups I've ever seen.

Dave
yeah...and it shoulda been mine. dagnabbit!
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-04-04 1:23 PM (#317652 - in reply to #317640)
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Lanaki, when it comes to preamps, get the newest you can. Dave's right about the old textured top Adamii being so good. So are the reissues. Putting new electronics in an old textured top Adamii is the best.

Just to give you an example, my GC 1627 RI has a redesigned stacked volume/tone control. It is absolutely the best plugged in guitar that I own, beating the snot out of my old 2 knobber 1537 and the several guitars that I own with the OP24.

You know, you and I got off on a slightly bad foot politically, but I'm real sorry that you're not coming to CT next month. You're a good guy and I'd like to drink a beer or 7 with you....
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lanaki
Posted 2007-04-04 1:33 PM (#317653 - in reply to #317640)
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:mad: this server!!!
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lanaki
Posted 2007-04-04 1:36 PM (#317654 - in reply to #317640)
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paul,
are there any "good" political feet?

i appreciate the sentiments. i'm certain i would have a marvelous time hangin' with you and the rest of the gang. 7 beers would only lead to political gibberish though, i'm afraid.
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Zen
Posted 2007-04-05 12:06 PM (#317655 - in reply to #317640)
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Lanaki,
Beautiful song on u tube. Nice chorus fx. Really enjoyed it.
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lanaki
Posted 2007-04-05 12:40 PM (#317656 - in reply to #317640)
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aloha zen,
mahalo! it's amazing the chorus can still be detected after the video/audio files were so compressed during the upload. the quality of the clip on my computer is so much better.
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Grif
Posted 2007-04-05 12:46 PM (#317657 - in reply to #317640)
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You should submit it for the next OFC CD!
I think I've listened to it about 30 times.
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lanaki
Posted 2007-04-05 12:49 PM (#317658 - in reply to #317640)
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30 times?!? that's more than i've played it.

thanks, grif. you are kind.
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Grif
Posted 2007-04-05 12:54 PM (#317659 - in reply to #317640)
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I think it might be just to see a 1537 in action until I get mine. :D
Just kidding, you're a gifted player.
Looking forward to seeing more, maybe with other guitars in your collection.
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lanaki
Posted 2007-04-05 12:59 PM (#317660 - in reply to #317640)
Subject: Re: Vintage Adamas 1681-8 on the Bay


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i'm thinkin' i'd like to play slack key, or any key for that matter, on one of those takamine EF75 babies. if i sell all (both!) my O's to get one, can i still hang out with you guys?
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cliff
Posted 2007-04-05 2:24 PM (#317661 - in reply to #317640)
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no.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2007-04-05 3:08 PM (#317662 - in reply to #317640)
Subject: Re: Vintage Adamas 1681-8 on the Bay


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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Lanaki, when it comes to preamps, get the newest you can.
Or leave it be and use outboard gear. The new Fishman Aura pedals are essential an outboard VIP preamp. OK, they're not Ovation-specific but they do a very similar job. There's a ton of other stuff that you can use without having to do it all onboard. An old single-knob FET3 guitar can sound amazing with the right processing.
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cliff
Posted 2007-04-05 3:12 PM (#317663 - in reply to #317640)
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". . An old single-knob FET3 guitar can sound amazing with the right processing. . ."

On behalf of my old Custom Balladeer and myself, Thank You, Paul.
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lanaki
Posted 2007-04-05 3:15 PM (#317664 - in reply to #317640)
Subject: Re: Vintage Adamas 1681-8 on the Bay


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see cliff, you just love me for my guitars. i'm hurt...
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