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Location: Brighty in Blighty | I know it's not asking much but...
Would like to buy a 1987 Collectors in natural finish with case. Got to be in awesome condition.
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Location: closely held secret | Dweez, mine isn't for sale, but I will say you are on the trail of one of the best sounding models out there. |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | If it's better than my 03C or 1537 then I will be amazed. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | You might check out Miles' (Mr. Ovation) Book Elite that he has for sale. It's basically an 87 collector that they dressed up for the Walter Carter book in 1996. Has outies, though. |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Gulp, that ain't cheap. |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by dweezil:
If it's better than my 03C or 1537 then I will be amazed. That depends on your definition of better. Think 1537 with a cutaway and some bling. The top on mine has aged to a beautiful honey color. It's my "MFP"... Most Frequent Player, the one I reach for when inspiration strikes. |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Yup you've convinced me. I want a 87 ;) |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | The Wabbit actually plays at some of those higher frets (I've seen him), so he has a need for a cutaway. I don't really, so I figured I'd keep the 1537 when I give my daughter her 87. The 87, to my ears, has a bit more of a crisp tone than the 1537. There is at least enough difference that you could justify owning both if you felt you needed to justify it. |
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Location: SoCal | I wouldn't get an 87. There are problems with it..... |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
I wouldn't get an 87. There are problems with it..... Oh? |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | They tend to get blown over in windstorms if you leave then next to the window. I think the story went something like that. |
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Location: SoCal | Well, that's one of the problems. Hit them hard on a hardwood floor and the face will crack wide open.
What I was actually thinking was that if you get an 87 C, life as you know it will be over. You'll play nothing but it, your wife and kids will get mad that you're ignoring them, and your other guitars will be jealous and might just attack you in the middle of the night.
They are great guitars.
I have both, an 87C and a 1537. Similar, but different voices. Both get played, but the 87C is the "go to" guitar when I'm going to plug in or play in public. These are really wonderful guitars and are worth more than the current pricing (around a grand)...... |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Yeah but find me one for a grand.
And how do they compare to the 03C which i really dig. |
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Location: closely held secret | I got mine off Craigslist for $825, with DesignZilla's invaluable help... |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | JESUS!
Come on guys - let's find a 87C for dweezil. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Mine has a significant finish crack by the neck, so the price was discounted. I haven't played an 03, so I can't compare. If it's a midbowl, I've never played a midbowl that I liked as much as the 87. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I had the '87C and the Book Elite at the same time a while ago. There has always been this mystique about the '87C and it is one of the finest guitars they have made. But honestly I could hear no difference between it and the Book Elite. I had a few others play them and came to the same conclusion. I wanted to sell one, didn't care which since they were identical except cosmetics. The 87C sold because I was asking less money for it (Book Elite is a factor of 10 more rare). In hind sight I'm not playing the Book Elite either, so probably should have sold both of them. Anyway, the 87C (or Book Elite) are very nice instruments that you will enjoy for a long time. Happy hunting.
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Bling is not my thing - so it's an 87C for sharky... |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | We played my 87 next to Miles Book a couple years ago. I couldn't hear a difference, either, except that I like innies better than outies. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | I actually preferred the sound of the '87C over the Book elite but that's why there are some many different flavors to choose from! |
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| Originally posted by dweezil:
Bling is not my thing - so it's an 87C for sharky... BUT... the 87C IS blingy - MOP body & neck purfling & fret markers, carved bridge, burl headstock facing:
 
 
Yes, this is a -1, the only one of its kind in the world (thanks, Stephen). |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | 87C has more bling on the fretboard and bridge. BE has more bling on the headstock. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Serge, that was a REAL TOUGH ONE to let go.
Something about sunburst Ovations that just make them sound better than their natural finished counterparts.
That fact (sb vs natural) has been documented by Tupperware, StandingOvation, and Gallerinski (and yours truly) so you KNOW it to be TRUE! |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | It's not difficult to understand why the sunbursts sound better. Same effect as adamas I and II guitars. The sunburst (and adamas bursts) are done using multiple coats of paint and the edge of the soundboard gets more paint than the center. The effect of this added paint towards the edges is that it dampens a lot of the odd harmonic interactions between the soundboard and edge kerfing, or attachment point, to the bowl. A vibration contour plot of a natural finished top shows a lot of "noise" towards the edge, whereas a plot of sunburst or adamas burst is much smoother.
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Location: Carle Place, NY | I thought sunburst models only sound better if you use string tubes. |
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