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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Not mine, but could be a deal of a lifetime!
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Location: South of most, North of few | Somebody screwed up me thinks. The label says "contour bowl" and I don't believe the 1680 had that. At least not mine or any other one I've seen. In addition, looking at the webbing of the bowl, (bracing for the neck) it's on upside down... :eek:
Oh, and rest assured, it should go for well over the opening bid, unless THE END is that near. |
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| In addition, looking at the webbing of the bowl, (bracing for the neck ) it's on upside down...
In which picture do you see the neck bracing? I'm not seeing it. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Trader Jim:
In addition, looking at the webbing of the bowl, (bracing for the neck) it's on upside down... :eek:
It's in the correct orientation relative to the neck. It should rad "right side up" as you look at someone playing the guitar right handed. The bowl webbing is "below" the label, which it correctly is in the photo.
Nice guitar, hope someone here gets it.
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Location: South of most, North of few | Correct Dave, I forgot they did put them under the soundholes and I was going by mine that has the label in the center of the bowl (like a center sound hole model) rather than under the eppies. A nice move by the factory as everyone complained about seeing the label through the soundholes. But still, a contour bowl?? Is that right? I thought all 1680's had a deep standard bowl. |
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Location: Germany | These guitars still have a deep-standard-handlaid-bowl. They did use the wrong label. My 1680 has also the wrong label. Anyway it's my best sounding Adamas ever! I also love my old 1687, but the 1680 is blowing her down. The 1680 is also a great guitar for playing without Picks and Pleks. The sound comes out loud and clear. Killerguitar!!! |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Uh, I think the bowl is lynacord, not hand laid glass. Agreed, the 1680 is the best Adamas I've owned or played. |
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Location: Germany | Hand laid cloth type for sure. Press your finger hard against the bowl - it will show a hollow. This is not possible with the standard lyracord-bowls.
Thats one reason why thess guitars are a bit more expensive than the UT's for example. |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Sorry to disagree Ralph, but I believe, (and I could be wrong here) the glass bowls don't require the "web" bracing around the neck attachment area like the plastic ones do. You could press all you wanted with your finger on a fiberglass bowl and the only thing you would get is a sore finger. If you will notice, the 1680 is VERY light compared to say a 1537 which does have a glass bowl. Even my Josh White RI, which does have a fiberglass bowl, is heavier than the 1680, and that's without electronics. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I think the fiberglass bowl will have a "solid neck block" type of attachment, actually made of wood. The plastic bowl has the molded in type of "web" braces for the neck attachment. The 08 Collector is a good example of a fiberglass bowl and solid neck block. The U681 is a good example of a plastic bowl and web attachment. I've never seen a 1680 in person, but if it's got the web attachment, then it's a plastic bowl. I don't know how you'd form those web struts in a fiberglass press. |
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Location: SoCal | A lot of the weight that T.J. talks about in the 1537 is from the K-bar neck, not the bowl, as well as the electronics vs. acoustic only. I'm not certain that you can tell the weight of the bowl when the other variables are in play (could be wrong tho')..... |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Just received a reply from John Budny, and he confirmed. The 1680 is a plastic bowl. I know the 1537 is a heavier guitar because of the neck and the monster electronics in it, but here's a bit of fact. A while ago a friend asked about the weight of the 1537, so I weighed the 1537 with the two knob electronics, glass bowl, etc... and then weighed the 1681 Adamas with the old OP24, glass bowl etc... and they actually weighed the same to the ounce.
The 1680 has the VIP electronics in it and is MUCH lighter. Kind of feels like a 47 RI to be honest. My Josh White and Balladeer (both reissues with no electronics) are much heavier than the 1680, and I attribute that to the bowl. I've done extensive work with fiberglass, and a hand laid cloth bowl would weigh more than a molded plastic one would. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | There's one sure fire way to tell. The plastic bowls are just black molded plastic. But the fiberglass bowls are actually white/powderblue color and painted black. Take a little paint stripper and rub the inside of a fiberglass bowl and you'll see what I mean. You can also tell by unscrewing the output jack and pop it out (in). The jack hole in the plastic bowl looks like (um) a hole drilled in plastic. On a fiberglass bowl the hole is more ragged and the bowl looks thicker. In some cases you can even see the fibers in the cut.
Anyway, all of this is really just like counting pubic hairs. Who cares. The 1680 is a stunning guitar. Based on reports owners say it sounds like a U681 on steroids, which must be absolutely incredible. |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | What Gallerinski said!
My 1680 is the best sounding guitar I've ever played and the neck is to die for! |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | This is a fiberglass bowl and wooden neck block ...
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Location: SoCal | Cool. Never seen a pic like that. You known, the only way to do a neck reset with the fiberglass bowls is to do a "bowl bend" where the bowl is heated up and then bent to the proper angle. Not many people know how to do that properly.
With the plastic bowls, you can't do that and I'm not certain is a neck reset is possible...... |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
With the plastic bowls, you can't do that and I'm not certain is a neck reset is possible...... Most of the plastic bowls have bolted on necks. I think you just shim it. |
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Location: Central Ohio | I plan on owning this guitar. We'll see how it goes. |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Good luck - there wasn't many made... |
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Location: South of most, North of few | John said between 75 and 100. |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | That's not too many eh especially as once you've bought one you're not likely to part with it. ;) |
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Location: Chehalis, Washington | I agree...hand's down the best-sounding Ovation I've ever played, and by far the sweetest neck. It's even man-sized... ;) |
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | What would make this sound better than a Ute? Are they not basically the same configuration? |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | 12 fret vs 14 fret and I think the bowl composition might be different.
I played a UTE and a 1680 side by side and didn't really hear any major difference in sound but obviously some people can. |
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Location: South of most, North of few | The UTE and the 1680 are both 12 fret, 1 3/4 nut slotheads with a plastic bowl. The differences are: The 1680 has a one piece walnut neck, UTE has a 5 piece "skunk stripe" neck. The UTE has the usual "manhole cover" hatch in the bowl, the 1680 does not. The UTE has multi wood eppies, the 1680 has walnut only. The UTE has a textured top, the 1680 has a cross weave top. The UTE's top is bonded to the bowl while the 1680's top has the Adamas suspension ring. (I think that and the cross weave top is where the sound difference comes in) The UTE comes standard with the OP pro while the 1680 comes with the VIP preamp. Let's see, did I forget anything...Ah yes, the 1680 has a much more expensive look to it and... it DOES sound better. :D |
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