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with 16hrs left will this Addmas reach 5K yes or no

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geneo
Posted 2009-08-30 9:03 PM (#288932)
Subject: with 16hrs left will this Addmas reach 5K yes or no


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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160357302732&ssP...
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geneo
Posted 2009-08-30 9:22 PM (#288933 - in reply to #288932)
Subject: Re: with 16hrs left will this Addmas reach 5K yes or no


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DAMN ya think i could at least spell adamas correctly...if nothin else lol
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AlanM
Posted 2009-08-31 8:16 AM (#288934 - in reply to #288932)
Subject: Re: with 16hrs left will this Addmas reach 5K yes or no


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My guess: $4,750.
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ffsooo3
Posted 2009-08-31 9:32 AM (#288935 - in reply to #288932)
Subject: Re: with 16hrs left will this Addmas reach 5K yes or no


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Yes: $5001.01
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geneo
Posted 2009-08-31 10:13 AM (#288936 - in reply to #288932)
Subject: Re: with 16hrs left will this Addmas reach 5K yes or no


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Originally posted by ffsooo3:
Yes: $5001.01
i think ur close cause the bidding will probably go crazy at the end
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-08-31 10:16 AM (#288937 - in reply to #288932)
Subject: Re: with 16hrs left will this Addmas reach 5K yes or no
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Wonder what a slothead would sell for in todays market
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-08-31 10:22 AM (#288938 - in reply to #288932)
Subject: Re: with 16hrs left will this Addmas reach 5K yes or no


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Originally posted by Gallerinski:
Wonder what a slothead would sell for in todays market
You would think, in a down economy, that a slothead, or an old Adamas like this one wouldn't go for that much money. I'm surprised by this one as I know of two old Adamii that just recently went for significantly less.

So it's going to be interesting to see where this one ends up.....
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-08-31 10:36 AM (#288939 - in reply to #288932)
Subject: Re: with 16hrs left will this Addmas reach 5K yes or no
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I guess what I was thinking, looking back it seems to me that the slotheads were going for about double what the early production 1687's were selling for. But I think 10k in this economy is a big stretch.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-08-31 11:24 AM (#288940 - in reply to #288932)
Subject: Re: with 16hrs left will this Addmas reach 5K yes or no


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Originally posted by Gallerinski:
I guess what I was thinking, looking back it seems to me that the slotheads were going for about double what the early production 1687's were selling for. But I think 10k in this economy is a big stretch.
I think they were going for about 3 times early production 1687's --- $9-$10K vs. $3k....
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-08-31 12:44 PM (#288941 - in reply to #288932)
Subject: Re: with 16hrs left will this Addmas reach 5K yes or no
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Until the FR's cut the bottom out of THAT market
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WillaMuse
Posted 2009-08-31 1:21 PM (#288942 - in reply to #288932)
Subject: Re: with 16hrs left will this Addmas reach 5K yes or no



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Silly boys! CONGRATS, Music!!!

;)
Willa
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geneo
Posted 2009-08-31 1:21 PM (#288943 - in reply to #288932)
Subject: Re: with 16hrs left will this Addmas reach 5K yes or no


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4365 final bid SOLD>...in todays market that guy should be happy i'd say
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2009-08-31 1:37 PM (#288944 - in reply to #288932)
Subject: Re: with 16hrs left will this Addmas reach 5K yes or no


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For all those who missed out on that one..

Adamas I 1687-8 Ovation 30th Anniversary

I'm just say'n... no it's not a 70's Ovation, but then again... it's $2,500.00 not $4,365.00. I realize the originals add some mojo and maybe even some sound... but I doubt it sounds $2500 better than the 30th Anniversary. I'm just say'n... for those who are interested in a 1687... might be worth thinking about this.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-08-31 1:44 PM (#288945 - in reply to #288932)
Subject: Re: with 16hrs left will this Addmas reach 5K yes or no


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Originally posted by Mr. Ovation:
For all those who missed out on that one..

Adamas I 1687-8 Ovation 30th Anniversary

I'm just say'n... no it's not a 70's Ovation, but then again... it's $2,500.00 not $4,365.00. I realize the originals add some mojo and maybe even some sound... but I doubt it sounds $2500 better than the 30th Anniversary. I'm just say'n... for those who are interested in a 1687... might be worth thinking about this.
+1.

But those that would pay for the original probably aren't going to be buying the reissue and vice versa.

What Al is selling is a great guitar and I would buy it over the original, especially at those prices.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2009-08-31 2:15 PM (#288946 - in reply to #288932)
Subject: Re: with 16hrs left will this Addmas reach 5K yes or no



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I wonder how much mojo is actually in a guitar that's been under a bed for 30 years. Whatever went in at the factory probably bled out already. All the mojo is in those guitars that have had the crap played out of them. This may be in near perfect condition but if it hasn't been played, what's the use of it being 30 years old? All the parts have probably gone brittle.

But congrats to whoever got it. Probably make quite a nice collector piece.
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G8r
Posted 2009-08-31 2:31 PM (#288947 - in reply to #288932)
Subject: Re: with 16hrs left will this Addmas reach 5K yes or no


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Originally posted by stonebobbo:
I wonder how much mojo is actually in a guitar that's been under a bed for 30 years. Whatever went in at the factory probably bled out already. All the mojo is in those guitars that have had the crap played out of them. This may be in near perfect condition but if it hasn't been played, what's the use of it being 30 years old? All the parts have probably gone brittle.

But congrats to whoever got it. Probably make quite a nice collector piece.
+10
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2009-08-31 2:37 PM (#288948 - in reply to #288932)
Subject: Re: with 16hrs left will this Addmas reach 5K yes or no


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I'm not sure about the "parts going brittle" but I think we can safely say the top hasn't opened up at all.. and.. indeed the glue joints may very well act unpleasantly to being all of a sudden being strummed. It would be interesting to hear the difference between the unplayed 30 year old guitar and the unplayed re-issue, and also compare other aspects. My money would be on the new guitar overall.... if I could afford it.
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G8r
Posted 2009-08-31 2:55 PM (#288949 - in reply to #288932)
Subject: Re: with 16hrs left will this Addmas reach 5K yes or no


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We've discussed before whether the "CF top" of an Adamas "opens up" the way a wood guitar does. General consensus is that it most certainly does - the changes that result from playing aren't confined to the wood fibers of the top - and there is, indeed, wood between the inner and outer layer of CF on an Adamas. Opening up is also due to changes in the glues, braces, etc. Part of the fun of my 1687 RI is hearing it change the more I play it.

Now if I wanted an old one with some serious mojo, I'd take Cliff's original slothead - THAT one's seen some interesting things in its life ;)

But yeah, congrats to the seller and buyer of the one originally under discussion.
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alpep
Posted 2009-08-31 2:57 PM (#288950 - in reply to #288932)
Subject: Re: with 16hrs left will this Addmas reach 5K yes or no


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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Originally posted by Mr. Ovation:
For all those who missed out on that one..

Adamas I 1687-8 Ovation 30th Anniversary

I'm just say'n... no it's not a 70's Ovation, but then again... it's $2,500.00 not $4,365.00. I realize the originals add some mojo and maybe even some sound... but I doubt it sounds $2500 better than the 30th Anniversary. I'm just say'n... for those who are interested in a 1687... might be worth thinking about this.
+1.

But those that would pay for the original probably aren't going to be buying the reissue and vice versa.

What Al is selling is a great guitar and I would buy it over the original, especially at those prices.
better price for ofc members
contact me
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-08-31 3:21 PM (#288951 - in reply to #288932)
Subject: Re: with 16hrs left will this Addmas reach 5K yes or no



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Originally posted by geneo:
4365 final bid SOLD>...in todays market that guy should be happy i'd say
People keep saying "In Today's Market"...
There are some things that aren't affected the economy.
Expensive/Exotic Guitars are one of them.
The person who can afford a $5K can afford it regardless of the economy.
Now... Whether I can sell my CS-whatever or my old Balladeer for a nice price is different story.
You will notice this guitar started at $.01 with no reserve.
Uh... Rolls Royce isn't laying people off either. :p
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Jérôme
Posted 2009-08-31 3:56 PM (#288952 - in reply to #288932)
Subject: Re: with 16hrs left will this Addmas reach 5K yes or no



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My opinion is that this guitar really worth that final price.
Reissues are really great guitars but as I'm a collector more than a player, I'm always looking for great pieces of O's history and this one is one of them.
Several month ago, I was ready to pay that price and as I already wrote it on the board, I envy the next owner.

That guitar has been tested, played, signed and finally approved by Charles Kaman himself so even if it's not the best guitar on earth, I'm pretty sure that she's very close to what he had in mind when he decided to realize the Adamas project.
That's enough for me to be sure that it's a great instrument and that the price is correct.

That kind of guitar arouse something in me that I can't explain and I love this feeling.
It's probably called passion and that's what I'm looking for when I buy a guitar.
I also had this sensation when I've opened the Box of my #47 RI for the first time and I still have this feeling each time I look or play this guitar.

Now, you can throw me stones, I'm ready... ;)

J :)
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WillaMuse
Posted 2009-08-31 4:03 PM (#288953 - in reply to #288932)
Subject: Re: with 16hrs left will this Addmas reach 5K yes or no



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That kind of guitar arouses something in me that I can't explain and I love this feeling. It's probably called passion and that's what I'm looking for when I buy a guitar. I also had this sensation when I've opened the Box of my #47 RI for the first time and I still have this feeling each time I look or play this guitar.


Ditto, Jerome! DITTO.

:rolleyes:

;)
Willa
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geneo
Posted 2009-08-31 4:30 PM (#288954 - in reply to #288932)
Subject: Re: with 16hrs left will this Addmas reach 5K yes or no


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very very very well put jerome....im very much into original equipment as well.... i just dont have that deep a pocket to feed my habit.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2009-08-31 4:47 PM (#288955 - in reply to #288932)
Subject: Re: with 16hrs left will this Addmas reach 5K yes or no


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"I'm a collector more than a player"

Well that's a whole other issue/aspect.

When it's something I'm collecting, than price takes on a whole new form.

If I was collecting and had $5000 as example... I would be all over that one that sold. If I was looking for something to play.. still with the same $5000, it would not even be on my radar, I would be looking to custom order or something like the 30th that was close to what I wanted and spend the balance on getting it there.

Once you mention the word "collect" it's a completely different set of cards with a completly different set of motivations.
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Tim in Tidewater
Posted 2009-08-31 4:51 PM (#288956 - in reply to #288932)
Subject: Re: with 16hrs left will this Addmas reach 5K yes or no



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If it had been a wide neck, I would have considered pushing the bid but iffy got the guitar I was eyeballing...like I need another guitar, I can't play all that I have now! :p

Still, this is in the neighborhood that the OFC I was selling at, so I would say it's money well spent all the same. I doubt you could pry one of the OFC I slothead "FR" from any of us 12 for less than $5.5-6K and a lot more as the years go by.
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