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Nick B.
Posted 2010-02-12 11:41 AM (#283206)
Subject: Trade: 47RI for an 1189



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This is a long shot, but is there anyone out there with an 1189 that wishes they had an 1187 instead, i.e. 47RI? Recently I stumbled onto a 1689 and I find myself playing playing it almost exclusively. The wide neck is more forgiving of my less than perfect playing style. I'm not interested in another 1689 as I really prefer the simplicity of straight up acoustics. Please PM or email if interested.

Here are a couple of pictures of the guitar taken by Mike who was the original owner:

Originally posted by MusicMishka:



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bvince
Posted 2010-02-12 3:39 PM (#283207 - in reply to #283206)
Subject: Re: Trade: 47RI for an 1189



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Nick ... You've got me droolin'
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Nick B.
Posted 2010-02-12 4:27 PM (#283208 - in reply to #283206)
Subject: Re: Trade: 47RI for an 1189



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Originally posted by bvince:
Nick ... You've got me droolin'
If you had an 1189 you didn't want, I'd fix that problem. :) I just checked the registrations and it looks like Beal has the market on 1189s among those that register.

Hey Beal, what would it take to get you to part with #220?
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Gallerinski
Posted 2010-02-12 5:43 PM (#283209 - in reply to #283206)
Subject: Re: Trade: 47RI for an 1189
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Why not just send the 47RI back to the factory and get a wide neck put on it?
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Nick B.
Posted 2010-02-12 6:28 PM (#283210 - in reply to #283206)
Subject: Re: Trade: 47RI for an 1189



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Originally posted by Gallerinski:
Why not just send the 47RI back to the factory and get a wide neck put on it?
I'd kicked that idea around, though I wasn't sure they could actually do it. I guess I'll never know if I don't ask. Thanks for the suggestion Dave, I just sent Kim an email.
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WillaMuse
Posted 2010-02-13 1:16 AM (#283211 - in reply to #283206)
Subject: Re: Trade: 47RI for an 1189



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Whimper ... whimper ... don't do it ... don't do it ... don't do it ... oh ... don't do it ... please ... Nick!

:( :eek: :(
Willa
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TAFKAR
Posted 2010-02-13 2:44 AM (#283212 - in reply to #283206)
Subject: Re: Trade: 47RI for an 1189



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Wide necks rule! My 1680 arrived the other day.
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Beal
Posted 2010-02-13 8:52 AM (#283213 - in reply to #283206)
Subject: Re: Trade: 47RI for an 1189



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It would be cheaper to send it back and have a new neck made than to try to buy 220. I have not parted with that guitar since I sound checked it when it was new to see if it was good enugh to ship. It was too good so I kept it.

I had a wide neck put on my 1984 C-Series, they can do it.
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Charlie Ramon
Posted 2010-02-13 9:26 AM (#283214 - in reply to #283206)
Subject: Re: Trade: 47RI for an 1189


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I've been watching the market for Adamas guitars since 2003 and I never saw a genuine 1189 for sale. This model seems to be quite rare. The only two specimen I know are #220 and #237 (which was afterwards equipped with an OP-24).

Karl
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War Eagle
Posted 2010-02-13 9:42 AM (#283215 - in reply to #283206)
Subject: Re: Trade: 47RI for an 1189


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Any pics of a 1189 ?
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2010-02-13 10:04 AM (#283216 - in reply to #283206)
Subject: Re: Trade: 47RI for an 1189



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Here you are: Klick to Paul\'s 1189
One of the two Karl mentioned.

Best regards,
Kurt
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War Eagle
Posted 2010-02-13 10:12 AM (#283217 - in reply to #283206)
Subject: Re: Trade: 47RI for an 1189


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Thanks Kurt...That's a beauty !!
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2010-02-13 10:18 AM (#283218 - in reply to #283206)
Subject: Re: Trade: 47RI for an 1189


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Originally posted by Beal:
It would be cheaper to send it back and have a new neck made than to try to buy 220. I have not parted with that guitar since I sound checked it when it was new to see if it was good enugh to ship. It was too good so I kept it.

I had a wide neck put on my 1984 C-Series, they can do it.
You ever get the wide neck put on the 1547?
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Nick B.
Posted 2010-02-13 12:57 PM (#283219 - in reply to #283206)
Subject: Re: Trade: 47RI for an 1189



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Originally posted by WillaMuse:
Whimper ... whimper ... don't do it ... don't do it ... don't do it ... oh ... don't do it ... please ... Nick!

:( :eek: :(
Willa
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Willa,
Due to the scarcity of 1189s, you may get your wish. ;) Everyone here seems to think replacing the neck is the best option. I guess we'll have to wait and see what the factory says.
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Charlie Ramon
Posted 2010-02-13 1:43 PM (#283220 - in reply to #283206)
Subject: Re: Trade: 47RI for an 1189


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Please let us know what they say. In the past the 1 7/8" neck was not available along with the slotted carved headstock. Available options were 1 7/8" non-slotted and 1 3/4". Maybe things have changed.

Karl
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lanaki
Posted 2010-02-13 6:31 PM (#283221 - in reply to #283206)
Subject: Re: Trade: 47RI for an 1189


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i do recall that last year paul hinted he may sell his wideneck, however it would not be inexpensive.
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stephent28
Posted 2010-02-13 7:21 PM (#283222 - in reply to #283206)
Subject: Re: Trade: 47RI for an 1189



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Why not contact Al and get one custom made.

Then it's your color, your specs, and ultimately YOUR GUITAR!

I have had a few custom ordered and they were all fantastic!
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stonebobbo
Posted 2010-02-13 7:24 PM (#283223 - in reply to #283206)
Subject: Re: Trade: 47RI for an 1189



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What Stephen said.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2010-02-13 7:32 PM (#283224 - in reply to #283206)
Subject: Re: Trade: 47RI for an 1189
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Ditto. The best roundbacks I own are ones that have been custom ordered from Al.
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Nick B.
Posted 2010-02-13 7:49 PM (#283225 - in reply to #283206)
Subject: Re: Trade: 47RI for an 1189



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Originally posted by stephent28:
Why not contact Al and get one custom made.

Then it's your color, your specs, and ultimately YOUR GUITAR!

I have had a few custom ordered and they were all fantastic!
That's good advice. Actually, I already did and have already gotten a price. Al's probably wondering what the hell I'm doing after he went to all that trouble. I'm just looking at all my options before I pull the trigger. The 1689 is heavy compared to the 47RI, but I really like the sound and feel. Plus, in my opinion a 32 year old guitar in good shape has a coolness factor that a shiny new guitar with warranty doesn't. Having said that, I'll take the shiny new guitar if an old one isn't available. ;)
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2010-02-13 10:43 PM (#283226 - in reply to #283206)
Subject: Re: Trade: 47RI for an 1189


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The 1689 is heavy in the neck because it has a K-bar stabilizing the neck. The 47 RI doesn't because it has the strip of graphite running the length of the neck.

Personally, I'd go with the custom order with the #47 style neck (slothead, walnut f/b, graphite strip). So very much cooler than a straight Adamas I.....
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stephent28
Posted 2010-02-14 12:23 AM (#283227 - in reply to #283206)
Subject: Re: Trade: 47RI for an 1189



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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
So very much cooler than a straight Adamas I.....
and that's the beauty of a custom order!
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WillaMuse
Posted 2010-02-14 3:42 AM (#283228 - in reply to #283206)
Subject: Re: Trade: 47RI for an 1189



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Nick, isn't that the last one that was made of the 1187 RI's? As much as I like widenecks, ugh! I would hate to see your 1187-2 taken apart.

My 1187 sounds bright and lovely, and I like the neck. I like the widenecks (and have a couple) very much also, but I wouldn't have the heart to do that to that particular guitar. The neck on my 1187 is comfortable for me, but my hands are not very big, I guess. These guys know what they are talking about; I would absolutely take their advice ... have a custom made.

Keep us posted!

;)
Willa
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Nick B.
Posted 2010-02-14 10:55 AM (#283229 - in reply to #283206)
Subject: Re: Trade: 47RI for an 1189



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Originally posted by WillaMuse:
Nick, isn't that the last one that was made of the 1187 RI's? As much as I like widenecks, ugh! I would hate to see your 1187-2 taken apart.

My 1187 sounds bright and lovely, and I like the neck. I like the widenecks (and have a couple) very much also, but I wouldn't have the heart to do that to that particular guitar. The neck on my 1187 is comfortable for me, but my hands are not very big, I guess. These guys know what they are talking about; I would absolutely take their advice ... have a custom made.
Yes, this was the last one of the 47 reissues and I also have reservations about altering it. I played the guitar yesterday evening and "bright and lovely" describes it well. Everyone that's seen it remarks about how beautiful it is and those that are guitar players also comment about how light it is. I'm not sure if it's due to the size of my hands or the lack of dexterity, but my playing is better on the wide neck...sigh.

I think it would be most practical to sell the 47RI and order a custom guitar for the same reasons that Stephen and Moody mention. It would be a post-Fender guitar but as I understand it, the same folks are building them.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2010-02-14 11:20 AM (#283230 - in reply to #283206)
Subject: Re: Trade: 47RI for an 1189


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Pre-Fender/Post-Fender... doesn't make any difference. You're right, it's the same people.

Too bad you couldn't have been at my house for the NAMM party. Prof BB brought his custom Adamas SSB and you could have seen just how good the people in CT are.

Order the custom guitar. You'll get exactly what you want and be thrilled to death with it.

Now, what color are you thinking about and what neck? This one, 1187-7 just knocks my socks off. Beautiful.....
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