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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2011-08-30 3:56 AM (#275785)
Subject: PSA-- FS; Book Elite on d'Bay



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Book Elite 1768-7 LTD that might go cheap in this economy



Don't know if this is a member, or if it has already been posted... I didn't see it.
The listing states that this guitar has been Played, so it hasn't been kept as a Closet Queen or a museum piece.

Somebody might grab it, restore it, or send it to the Spa... Or just Play it.

:mad: And I have been struggling so hard not to use the term "evilBay" :mad:
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titti
Posted 2011-08-31 8:03 PM (#275786 - in reply to #275785)
Subject: Re: PSA-- FS; Book Elite on d'Bay



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Arthur, if you remember, you saw The advertisement on ebay the seller was offering international shipping ($ 100)?tank you for the answer
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titti
Posted 2011-09-01 10:13 AM (#275787 - in reply to #275785)
Subject: Re: PSA-- FS; Book Elite on d'Bay



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....yes, I won the auction for this Elite "the Book".But the seller (I don't know if is a member of OFC), says he has discovered that it is forbidden to send musical instruments in Italy (But who do you think we are? troglodytes? is NOT TRUE. The import is opposed but not proibite.I want to have that guitar ..... what do you think? we Italians loved Ovation.... :confused:
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2011-09-01 1:17 PM (#275788 - in reply to #275785)
Subject: Re: PSA-- FS; Book Elite on d'Bay



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Wow! That sux.

I know nothing about this seller, I just saw the listing and shared it.
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bburg
Posted 2011-09-01 3:36 PM (#275789 - in reply to #275785)
Subject: Re: PSA-- FS; Book Elite on d'Bay



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Have question to that guitars:
Anybody out there who knows how many of these were made??
I found on Jerome's site, that basses and long-necks were only ten made, but for this ones I found nothing.

Thanks

Bernie
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titti
Posted 2011-09-01 4:25 PM (#275790 - in reply to #275785)
Subject: Re: PSA-- FS; Book Elite on d'Bay



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...mmmmh,Bburg,you think this Elite "the Book",don't original? : :confused:
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bburg
Posted 2011-09-01 4:33 PM (#275791 - in reply to #275785)
Subject: Re: PSA-- FS; Book Elite on d'Bay



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Oh, no!!

It's only my interest in a guitar, which don't show up very often on the market.

Bernie
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stonebobbo
Posted 2011-09-01 5:04 PM (#275792 - in reply to #275785)
Subject: Re: PSA-- FS; Book Elite on d'Bay



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I heard less than a hundred in total.
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bburg
Posted 2011-09-02 3:06 AM (#275793 - in reply to #275785)
Subject: Re: PSA-- FS; Book Elite on d'Bay



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Thanks for the information, Bobbo!

But I have other news for Titti:
I was also bidding on this guitar and as the 2nd bidder it was offered to me last night.
I took her! I always want to be fair here, but let's see when it has arrived. It was a dream to own one of them, but when it not fits my "dream", it will be yours, Titti.
I'll let you know and you've to pay exactly the bill I've paid, okay?

Note to Arthur: Now two beers are waiting for you...

Bernie
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2011-09-02 4:41 AM (#275794 - in reply to #275785)
Subject: Re: PSA-- FS; Book Elite on d'Bay



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Wow! And that would be Good German Beer!

...Not that watery crap they make here. :p
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titti
Posted 2011-09-02 5:44 AM (#275795 - in reply to #275785)
Subject: Re: PSA-- FS; Book Elite on d'Bay



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....... I knew that the OFC is made of people we can trust, even if you live in other countries.I'm very emotioned.I will not forget this generous gesture.Bburg and all of you I consider "family." Ooooh very good day today .... Bburg,you are a very ok .....sapevo che L'OFC era fatto di persone di cui ci si può fidare,anche se viviamo in altri paesi.Sono veramente commosso.Non dimentico questo gesto generoso.Bburg e tutti voi,io vi considero "famiglia".tanks very very....Tiziano (the best guitar in Zianigo...) :) :) :)
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bburg
Posted 2011-09-02 8:07 AM (#275796 - in reply to #275785)
Subject: Re: PSA-- FS; Book Elite on d'Bay



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I think the seller is not a member here, never heard his name here. His head must be full of alerts.... I had some trouble with him, too.
But now I hope the guitar will show up quickly and in good condition, I'll keep you postet.

Bernie
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bburg
Posted 2011-09-02 8:19 AM (#275797 - in reply to #275785)
Subject: Re: PSA-- FS; Book Elite on d'Bay



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....and Athur, if you'll post a 3rd guitar, I'll buy, you have to show up before Chistmas. You can get beer here with up to 8% alcohol in this time. After drinking 3 of those we will be drunk..., but one point before: no paint here, not for my guitars.....


Bernie
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Designzilla
Posted 2011-09-02 8:20 AM (#275798 - in reply to #275785)
Subject: Re: PSA-- FS; Book Elite on d'Bay


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These don't come up to often. Nice price, even with additional shipping costs! Congrats Bernie!
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titti
Posted 2011-09-02 8:44 AM (#275799 - in reply to #275785)
Subject: Re: PSA-- FS; Book Elite on d'Bay



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Bburg,you have a Great Heart ,when you coming in Venezia I offered a lunch of fish in restaurant ,also Old Man Arthur (mmmmh,he eat too much).Nurnberg...I'll be there
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marenostrum
Posted 2011-09-02 12:35 PM (#275800 - in reply to #275785)
Subject: Re: PSA-- FS; Book Elite on d'Bay



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Bernie, a gesture from a true gentleman. We knew that this forum is the mothership for all fans of the Ovation guitars, and today we got confirmation. Congratulations to both. Very well done Bernie !
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titti
Posted 2011-09-04 7:13 PM (#275801 - in reply to #275785)
Subject: Re: PSA-- FS; Book Elite on d'Bay



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Final considerations: the seller, some Stephen, (of course, the paranoid type) has refused to send me the guitar that I had won on the Ebay auction claiming that it is forbidden (proibited) to send musical instruments in Italia.Hi sent me this link,http://pe.usps.com/text/imm/il_008.htm where they say it is forbidden to send "Bells and other musical instruments and parts thereof." But we're kidding? we are talking about bells and accessories that relate to the bells.Crazy.. :mad:
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noah
Posted 2011-09-05 4:23 AM (#275802 - in reply to #275785)
Subject: Re: PSA-- FS; Book Elite on d'Bay



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The auction says, "Ships to: Worldwide See exclusions".
Under the Shipping and Payments tab, it says, "Excludes: Italy".
Italy is missing in the "Get Rates" country drop-down list.
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titti
Posted 2011-09-05 4:49 AM (#275803 - in reply to #275785)
Subject: Re: PSA-- FS; Book Elite on d'Bay



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yes.But in the beginning of the auction the seller offered international shipments (including Italy). Then when I had already made ​​the offer auction winner,the seller changed the terms of delivery :mad:
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noah
Posted 2011-09-05 5:16 AM (#275804 - in reply to #275785)
Subject: Re: PSA-- FS; Book Elite on d'Bay



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It appears that the seller only revised the Item Description.

I don\'t see any Shipping Terms revisions.
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titti
Posted 2011-09-05 7:19 AM (#275805 - in reply to #275785)
Subject: Re: PSA-- FS; Book Elite on d'Bay



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Noah,I'm sorry that you have doubts.The second revision of the seller (at 31 sept.
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titti
Posted 2011-09-05 8:20 AM (#275806 - in reply to #275785)
Subject: Re: PSA-- FS; Book Elite on d'Bay



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Noah,I'm sorry that you have doubts.The second revision of the seller(is not for Italy)is after my best offer.
But this is not important.the seller wanted to send me the guitar, but not in Italy(I have the mails archivied on my Ebay _messages).I asked to wait to find a solution.I posted for help in the OFC and OFC Tribute.Result: none,all in vacation?( and rightly,it's summer).After,too late ,I only received a mail ( a good idea) of Tony Calman(Tony, the Force be with you,you need it).I do not know what happened after,I see in OFC the post of Bburg( I repeat with Marenostrum,Bburg is a very gentleman).The seller begged me of cancel the transaction.My thoughts:too much trouble, ....I don't a bad person:I accepted.I wrote him that I would not have written a bad feedback on him.But as punishment I asked to the seller to make a discount to the lucky buyer of "the Book"..I have not yet had no response from him P.S :Noah,your'87 collection "bearclaw",...only a dream....
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noah
Posted 2011-09-06 6:32 AM (#275807 - in reply to #275785)
Subject: Re: PSA-- FS; Book Elite on d'Bay



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Titti, I was late for the party and confused by the limited information that eBay displays. I am sorry that you won the auction and the seller would not work with you. What is the basis for this shipping restriction? I could not find a corresponding Italian Customs Restriction. I'm sure Tony's idea was good. Eventually, there will be another guitar. Put together a plan now.
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titti
Posted 2011-09-06 9:53 AM (#275808 - in reply to #275785)
Subject: Re: PSA-- FS; Book Elite on d'Bay



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Tank you Noah.Then,the basis for this shipping restriction?the seller send me this document

,for me this restriction is only for bells and her accessoires....absurd, however, :confused:
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noah
Posted 2011-09-06 4:59 PM (#275809 - in reply to #275785)
Subject: Re: PSA-- FS; Book Elite on d'Bay



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Titti, I understand that the USPS states a restriction on mailing musical instruments. Considering the possible consequences (seizure at the receiving country), Mail appears to be a risk. But what is this Mail Restriction based on? I could not find any Import Restrictions published by Italian Customs. My experiences with USPS (EMS) for international shipping have been uneventful (good). Clearing customs is part of the service and the addressee settles-up import duties/taxes when they receive the shipment. I found that UPS and FedEx shipping quotes were always higher than EMS. I lost faith in UPS years ago when I was surprisingly back-billed an exorbitant amount for customs clearing services, duties, taxes, etc. As I said, there will be another guitar. Figure out now how you will be facilitating the shipping.
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