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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-06-22 4:13 PM (#273510)
Subject: #47 / OFC guitar


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You know, after seeing and playing #47, I'm wondering if having a blue version of it is going to be an improvment for the OFC guitar?

Al's gonna read this and kill me.

Thoughts?
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MWoody
Posted 2005-06-22 4:22 PM (#273511 - in reply to #273510)
Subject: Re: #47 / OFC guitar



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Red is the new Blue!

My only hope is to have Tony buy me one of everything and put him on a direct deposit for my check.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-06-22 4:52 PM (#273512 - in reply to #273510)
Subject: Re: #47 / OFC guitar


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Here's a pic of #47. Ignore the guy behind the curtain.

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MWoody
Posted 2005-06-22 5:33 PM (#273513 - in reply to #273510)
Subject: Re: #47 / OFC guitar



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Good job matching your wardrobe to the instrument!

Stop and consider the history of who has fretted that instrument before. It's awesome.
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Alaskan Fly Guy
Posted 2005-06-22 5:48 PM (#273514 - in reply to #273510)
Subject: Re: #47 / OFC guitar


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So am I correct to think the OFC guitar's color has been changed from blue to the red? I do like the red better.
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-06-22 6:16 PM (#273515 - in reply to #273510)
Subject: Re: #47 / OFC guitar



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I don't think the color of the OFC guitar has ever been officially finalized.

Everyone has their own opinions. Blue is to me "adamas" by default. Red I don't like at all, but given the fact that #47 was red I guess as a re-issue I could stomach it. Although why spend 5G on something you don't love. Now, BLACK ... well that would be something wouldn't it? There were no black slotheds to my knowledge. Classy, clean looking, ...

Dave
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richardd
Posted 2005-06-22 8:33 PM (#273516 - in reply to #273510)
Subject: Re: #47 / OFC guitar


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Why does the OFC guitar have to be only one particular colour ?

I realise Ovation is going to alot of trouble to produce a very small run of guitars but they are also very expensive and is it really that much more effort to spray a guitar top a different colour. I don't know, maybe it is.I mean it's only the top colour not the entire guitar.

There has been quite a few threads relating to the OFC guitar with the main bone of contention being the top colour.

I've been going to and fro between the #47 and the OFC guitar....maybe....maybe not.....but if I could get it in beige I'd mortgage the mother in law to get one.
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stephent28
Posted 2005-06-22 9:28 PM (#273517 - in reply to #273510)
Subject: Re: #47 / OFC guitar



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Originally posted by Standingovation:
There were no black slotheds to my knowledge. Classy, clean looking, ...
Hmmmmmm...could've sworn that the U681T is a black slothead :cool:
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stellarjim
Posted 2005-06-22 9:34 PM (#273518 - in reply to #273510)
Subject: Re: #47 / OFC guitar


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For those of you that played this guitar, what were your impressions? Was it really different? Better? Did you feel like this would be the ultimate guitar?

I'm curious because I believe this was Chalie's favorite and I wanted to see how his taste compared with OFC members.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-06-22 9:51 PM (#273519 - in reply to #273510)
Subject: Re: #47 / OFC guitar


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We had pretty much decided that the OFC'er would be blue. Now, I'm not certain as the red looks very good as well. We had also decided (and keep in mind that "decided" is a bit of a nebulus term) that the OFC'er should have a preamp so we can go out and gig with it.

I guess I'm saying that blue is my first choice, but if it only came in red, I'd be fine with it. Clifford's slot is blue and it's just gorgeous. But #47, in person, is just stunning.

There was actually a slothead (one of Bill's beige ones) that I thought sounded better than #47. But that was my personal opinion. Perhaps Bill can weigh in on this.

I gotta think that it's tough to reproduce a "sound". All the original slots were hand built pretty well the same way and they all sound a little different. I suspect that each reproduction of #47 will sound just a little different. It's part of what makes them unique.

But I will say this.... I liked them an awful lot and I am getting an OFC'er. No doubts and no reservations.
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richardd
Posted 2005-06-22 10:01 PM (#273520 - in reply to #273510)
Subject: Re: #47 / OFC guitar


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I'm not trying to be a smart A but why does an Adamas Slothead sound better than a standard model ?

Is the bracing different, bowl construction ?

I guess I wanna know why they sound "better".

(I own an amazing sounding 1687 and have never played a Slothead)
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-06-22 10:30 PM (#273521 - in reply to #273510)
Subject: Re: #47 / OFC guitar



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Originally posted by stephent28:
Hmmmmmm...could've sworn that the U681T is a black slothead :cool:
No, you (and I) have a black adamas with a slotted headstock. That's a lot different than a black slothead.
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-06-22 10:31 PM (#273522 - in reply to #273510)
Subject: Re: #47 / OFC guitar



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Originally posted by richardd:
I'm not trying to be a smart A but why does an Adamas Slothead sound better than a standard model ?
Materials, design and assembly.
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-06-22 10:37 PM (#273523 - in reply to #273510)
Subject: Re: #47 / OFC guitar



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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
We had pretty much decided that the OFC'er would be blue.
Who is "we" and when did we vote?

Personal opinion for 5G the buyer should get his choice of any of the original slothead colors, plus black. And choice of original electronics or acoustic only.

But I'm not the design police.

Dave
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-06-22 10:41 PM (#273524 - in reply to #273510)
Subject: Re: #47 / OFC guitar


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Dave you missed the vote when you were out of the country. That's what you get for missing staff meetings.

Maybe the people who are definitely getting an OFC'er should be able to sit down with Al and talk about options, and about what an OFC guitar should be.

Al's going to be pissed that this can of worms is open again.
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-06-22 11:05 PM (#273525 - in reply to #273510)
Subject: Re: #47 / OFC guitar



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Well, at least you didn't pick mauve. Or did you?
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stephent28
Posted 2005-06-22 11:09 PM (#273526 - in reply to #273510)
Subject: Re: #47 / OFC guitar



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Opppss, that can just fell over :D

I have to agree with Dave on this one. For a 5g list price, any color of the original should be available. Figuring maybe 25 of these will be made, tops.....I gotta think that is about as custom a build as it gets, and the buyer should have input.

But what do I know.....I just an idiot that buys guitars sight unseen!
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stonebobbo
Posted 2005-06-23 1:24 AM (#273527 - in reply to #273510)
Subject: Re: #47 / OFC guitar



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I've always liked the red ... but that's just me. I'll take an OFC in whatever color produced ... it's nothing a can of Krylon can't rectify. ;)
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richardd
Posted 2005-06-23 1:33 AM (#273528 - in reply to #273510)
Subject: Re: #47 / OFC guitar


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Originally posted by Standingovation:
Originally posted by richardd:
I'm not trying to be a smart A but why does an Adamas Slothead sound better than a standard model ?
Materials, design and assembly.
How so ?

Comparing a slothead with my 1687, the materials used are pretty much the same as far as I can see (although fancier), carbon graphite top, deep bowl, walnut neck/bridge etc.

As far as design,it does look alittle different to the standard model but are there any design aspects the effect tone?

No guitar I've owned is assembled better than my 1687.
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ebee
Posted 2005-06-23 1:34 AM (#273529 - in reply to #273510)
Subject: Re: #47 / OFC guitar


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What kind of preamp will the OFC guitar have? Will it be a two-knobber? How about a direct-out, a la fd-14?

I know I don't deserve a guitar like this, it won't sound as good as it should in my hands -- still, like a fool, I'm trying to save up for it. It would be nice to have a choice of colors. Blue is nice, but since I already have a blue guitar. . .
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richardd
Posted 2005-06-23 1:38 AM (#273530 - in reply to #273510)
Subject: Re: #47 / OFC guitar


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Choice of colours would do it for me.

Preamp will be a 2 knobber.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2005-06-23 1:57 AM (#273531 - in reply to #273510)
Subject: Re: #47 / OFC guitar



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I will be getting the OFC guitar...however, never understood why we were so insistent on getting an "OFC" that so few could afford. Doubt if there will be more than 12 ordered.

However, Al has done a lot of work on this...a wonderful guitar with a/e. I see the addition of a pre-amp as advantageous.

Of the different colors, my understanding is that it has been agreed to be the "old" -8, not the new darker finish.

The old -8 appears to be the most popular with those that will be putting the cash out.

For me, I don't care but I do believe there is an advantage to have a different color than the run of the 47's. And, as we are asking for the factory to do something special, I seriously suggest that it be the same color. After all, it goes back to being an OFC guitar. Different colors, then it doesn't seem to be a special OFC, just a number of custom orders - assuming the factory would even consider a custom order. Al has had to work very hard to even have an OFC guitar considered.

I have three Adamas I's and an Adamas II with -7, an Adamas I 12-str with the new but darker -8, and the black 12-fret

Personally, I vote for the original -8. If there isn't a desire to have an OFC guitar, then maybe easier to buy the #47...course, that would mean no pre-amp.

So, buy a very limited run (? 1 of 12) or buy the #47 (? 1 of 100).
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cliff
Posted 2005-06-23 7:54 AM (#273532 - in reply to #273510)
Subject: Re: #47 / OFC guitar


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". . but why does an Adamas Slothead sound better than a standard model ? . . "


The SlotHeads were all done in "FM" .
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alpep
Posted 2005-06-23 12:43 PM (#273533 - in reply to #273510)
Subject: Re: #47 / OFC guitar


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this was no vote.

there is no choice.

The guitar is speced out.

buy it or not.

Moody, I HATE YOU.
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-06-23 12:54 PM (#273534 - in reply to #273510)
Subject: Re: #47 / OFC guitar



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Originally posted by alpep:
this was no vote. there is no choice.
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