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Mitzdawg
Posted 2006-02-03 12:13 PM (#266915)
Subject: OW! My Eyes! OWCH!!!
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Why would anybody color wood that color?!?! That's just wrong - Where's the eyewash station?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Ovation-Celebrity-Deluxe-CS257_W0QQitemZ7387626...
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Captain Lovehandles
Posted 2006-02-03 12:21 PM (#266916 - in reply to #266915)
Subject: Re: OW! My Eyes! OWCH!!!



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Does Ovation own Daisy Rock now?
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John B
Posted 2006-02-03 12:26 PM (#266917 - in reply to #266915)
Subject: Re: OW! My Eyes! OWCH!!!


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I'm sure that I've seen worse. I can't think of anything right now though. :eek:
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Omaha
Posted 2006-02-03 1:11 PM (#266918 - in reply to #266915)
Subject: Re: OW! My Eyes! OWCH!!!


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According to the description, it "sounds even better than it looks".

Lets hope so.

Jeff
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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2006-02-03 1:16 PM (#266919 - in reply to #266915)
Subject: Re: OW! My Eyes! OWCH!!!


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...good color for a banjo. :eek:


....there, beat you to it Cliff! ;)
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Standingovation
Posted 2006-02-03 1:25 PM (#266920 - in reply to #266915)
Subject: Re: OW! My Eyes! OWCH!!!



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If it sells and makes money for Kaman, I'm all for it. Puts cash in the cookie jar to fund new developments, new machinery, etc. at the factory. Dave
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Mitzdawg
Posted 2006-02-03 1:54 PM (#266921 - in reply to #266915)
Subject: Re: OW! My Eyes! OWCH!!!
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Dave, gotta respectfully disagree on that. A long time ago I used to build boats, and no matter how much jing was waved in the company's face we just wouldn't do a boat in certain colors blue or red for example - we wanted to be taken seriously. Similarly, Ovations have a hard time being taken seriously by some folks. Coloring a guitar that hideous color (or "Sea Foam Blue") just makes it harder to sell that Ovations aren't plastic toys. Ovations should make you *gasp* when you lay your eyes on one - but not from pain!
Bad taste in a product line resonates and rubs off.
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Standingovation
Posted 2006-02-03 2:30 PM (#266922 - in reply to #266915)
Subject: Re: OW! My Eyes! OWCH!!!



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Mitz, I would have agreed with you in the past when I felt it was my "mission" to rid the world of their narrow minded views about the guitars that I choose to play. But the constant onslaught on plastic dayglow shit gracing the walls of GC has beat me into submission. Check THIS one out ...

Bubblegum Pink Ovation

The Ovation name is so permanently attached to the notion of plastic backed guitars in the minds of the general public that you'll just never change it. Yes, there are hundreds of testamonials about the guy who takes his adamas to his martin friends house and the friend actually admits he likes the sound. And all the people in church that say they never heard such beautiful tones after you have worshipped on your ovations, blah, blah, blah. It doesn't fugging matter. I really don't think painting them pink or blue or orange will do anything (more) negative to the brand name and maybe it actually helps sell a few more units. As long as there is a plastic bowl attached to it, the general public (minus the 4000 of us) will never get it.

Dave
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-02-03 2:36 PM (#266923 - in reply to #266915)
Subject: Re: OW! My Eyes! OWCH!!!


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Take a look at the nutmeg Celebrity Deluxes. They are just drop dead gorgeous. And I'm not just biased because I bought my daughter one. She actually wanted a green one, but my conservative tastes prevailed (besides I couldn't find a green one cheap). Anyway all her college buddies have been telling her that it's the most beautiful sounding and looking guitar they have ever seen. Ovation can wow even the college kids in a lot of ways. It won't hurt to sell a few fad guitars along the way.
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Standingovation
Posted 2006-02-03 2:53 PM (#266924 - in reply to #266915)
Subject: Re: OW! My Eyes! OWCH!!!



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Mark's right. Check out the Celeb Deluxe Koa. I hate to say it, but I think it's a hell of a lot better looking than the 06 Koalector. Dave
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cliff
Posted 2006-02-03 3:24 PM (#266925 - in reply to #266915)
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ShutUpWitko!!!
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Slipkid
Posted 2006-02-03 3:28 PM (#266926 - in reply to #266915)
Subject: Re: OW! My Eyes! OWCH!!!



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Yep...there is some calendar material right there.
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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2006-02-03 3:56 PM (#266927 - in reply to #266915)
Subject: Re: OW! My Eyes! OWCH!!!


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Hey Cliff,

You have any images of Darth Vader playing a banjo????
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dragonboy
Posted 2006-02-03 4:30 PM (#266928 - in reply to #266915)
Subject: Re: OW! My Eyes! OWCH!!!


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Can't say that I like the color personally, or would buy one... but that's what's "in" these days. I recently saw both a solid "Mary Kay Pink" finish and a solid Baby Blue finish on entry level Fender Squier acoustics... made me want to enter a cookie tossing contest. :(

Part of me wants Ovation to take the high road and only put out "classic" finishes in order to gain respect. But, that battle is probably never going to be won with all the "plastic guitar" BS... Face it, the future is not us older guys, so if Ovation wants to gain market share they've got to cater (at least some) to the younger crowd.

I guess ultimately Dave is right. If it puts $$$ in the R&D tank, that's a good thing. As he says, GC is loaded with all sorts of "plastic dayglo shit". :eek: It's what kids want. (Besides, I'll trust Ovation not to give up completely on pleasing the rest of us... :) )
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Standingovation
Posted 2006-02-03 4:38 PM (#266929 - in reply to #266915)
Subject: Re: OW! My Eyes! OWCH!!!



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Originally posted by dragonboy:

I guess ultimately Dave is right.
Good boy, Dragon!

Cliff - give me back my jpg files, NOW!
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Standingovation
Posted 2006-02-03 4:39 PM (#266930 - in reply to #266915)
Subject: Re: OW! My Eyes! OWCH!!!



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Originally posted by dragonboy:

I guess ultimately Dave is right.
Good boy, Dragon!

Cliff - give me back my jpg files, NOW!
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ignimbyte
Posted 2006-02-03 6:37 PM (#266931 - in reply to #266915)
Subject: Re: OW! My Eyes! OWCH!!!


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I just stopped by the local GC today to purchase a set of strings, and I can't believe what I just saw: a Squier Strat with a Hello Kitty pickguard!! Oh wow ... apparently, every guitar manufacturer wants a piece of the growing preteen market. While, I have no intention of owning one, it does look cute, and if it sells, then why not? The one I saw was pink, and it looked just like this:

http://www.bananas.com/multimedia/9171/MediumImage/9171_md.jpg
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cruster
Posted 2006-02-03 6:55 PM (#266932 - in reply to #266915)
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They're going after the Daisy Rock market. Gotta get 'em young.
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Cc
Posted 2006-02-05 10:31 AM (#266933 - in reply to #266915)
Subject: Re: OW! My Eyes! OWCH!!!



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The problem with getting older is our taste seems to mature too. Remember the Fenders with the racing stripe? I knew older players that thought those were hideous. Or the Fender Wild Woods. Now those are some of the most collectable guitars on the market. If it takes non-traditional colors to build a young customer base, then have at it. As the kids get older, they will look at whatever's next and say: "Boy that looks awful!"
It what makes the world go around.
Cc
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Paulcc1
Posted 2006-02-05 11:50 AM (#266934 - in reply to #266915)
Subject: Re: OW! My Eyes! OWCH!!!


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Cc wrote
The problem with getting older is our taste seems to mature too.
I am 55 yrs. Old/young/? and I love those radical colors. The red flame T is awesome if I had the money I would own one. I would look stupid but I only care what God thinks not anyone else. My wife like purple maybe hmmm what evil lurks in the hearts of men the shadow knows.
Pauly :D
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Beal
Posted 2006-02-05 5:17 PM (#266935 - in reply to #266915)
Subject: Re: OW! My Eyes! OWCH!!!



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The only thing I can say about this purple thing is that it's better than green. A discussion about the ethnicity of those deciding the colors could take place now but that might not even be the answer. Maybe the person choosing the color lost the bet?
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Prairie Dog
Posted 2006-02-05 6:13 PM (#266936 - in reply to #266915)
Subject: Re: OW! My Eyes! OWCH!!!


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(I am 55, too)! I don't have a problem with guitars being any color and don't get offended by very much. As my friend in Texas says: "Whatever gets you home". I sold high end custom instruments for too many years and learned a long time ago that everybody has a different idea about what's cool regarding color, so hoorah for Ovation making things like that purple celebrity. No one has brought forth the idea, by the way, that Minneapolis where the auction item is located, has been friendly to purple for a long time now.............
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Beal
Posted 2006-02-05 8:03 PM (#266937 - in reply to #266915)
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Now that you bring up the purple angle, you have a point........
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mt_spiffy
Posted 2006-02-06 3:33 AM (#266938 - in reply to #266915)
Subject: Re: OW! My Eyes! OWCH!!!


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I've never seen His Royal Purpleness play an Ovation . . . he should . . . can Al send him a purple one?

Personally I dont care for the wild colors, or even the plain finishes (i.e. black) . . . I like guitars that look like wood, so the natural, the koa, maybe some of the bursts . . . but Ovations look unusual regardless of the finish, so if they can capitalize on that, and sell more guitars, why not? I am sure a vast chunk of the under-$1000 guitar market is teens who think it would be cool to play one . . . and when they get bored with it we buy it for cheap on eBay or Craigslist.
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mt_spiffy
Posted 2006-02-06 3:36 AM (#266939 - in reply to #266915)
Subject: Re: OW! My Eyes! OWCH!!!


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But let me add a personal pet peave . . . the fig leaf adornment things on the epaulets . . . WHY, on the pink/blue/green etc guitars, are they still the same wood finishes? It looks OFF to me, to have a primary color and then natural wood parts stuck on it. Like they just glued them on as an afterthought without even looking at it. Cant we get some that match the finish, or just remove them, or something!
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