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MWoody
Posted 2006-02-21 10:33 PM (#265285)
Subject: Slothead Warning



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Looks like there is a Slothead on Ebay!
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-02-21 10:41 PM (#265286 - in reply to #265285)
Subject: Re: Slothead Warning


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Where you been, Woody? Mailing packages? Tony was on this one last I looked.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2006-02-21 11:27 PM (#265287 - in reply to #265285)
Subject: Re: Slothead Warning



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Serge called me this afternoon after talking to the seller, then I called him (local call in San Diego). Steve Vaus is the original owner of #42, website is buckhowdy.com
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Cc
Posted 2006-02-22 12:33 AM (#265288 - in reply to #265285)
Subject: Re: Slothead Warning



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Hi Guys,
I must say I don't really know much about the Adamas line. Why are slotheads so high dollar? Are they rare because only a few were made.
Thanks!
Cc
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Tim in Tidewater
Posted 2006-02-22 1:00 AM (#265289 - in reply to #265285)
Subject: Re: Slothead Warning



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Listen to any early HEART music, Nancy Wilson is kicking it on her Adamas 1687-8 #0044-93 slothead.




I followed them all over the Gulf Coast during the summer tours in '78 & '79
...man, did I have a crush on Nancy back then :D

Yes, with only 33 made, that in and of itself makes them rare.
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fugot
Posted 2006-02-22 1:13 AM (#265290 - in reply to #265285)
Subject: Re: Slothead Warning


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Tim, wait, as opposed to now???

Is Cholloway still selling his?
Is elias still selling that gold top one?
Three for sale at once? hmmm...
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Tim in Tidewater
Posted 2006-02-22 1:39 AM (#265291 - in reply to #265285)
Subject: Re: Slothead Warning



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Nope, puppy love all gone now....besides, the better half will kick my a$$ if I were to say otherwise :rolleyes:
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Tony Calman
Posted 2006-02-22 2:02 AM (#265292 - in reply to #265285)
Subject: Re: Slothead Warning



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There may be several other for sale out there. A lot of interest in these. No sale may mean that they are overpriced.

Back in 12/04, we suffered through Hector's -7 slothead eBay auctions...if you weren't here, search "hector" in the "For Sale". I believe he was trying to get $12,000.

Serge won the eBay auction with a high bid of $5,000. Hector refused to honor the auction. Believe he eventually sold it in a private sale. Rumor that it went for about $7,500. Problem with valuation on these rare birds is that most of the sales have been private and the actual amount is unknown.

In addition, what makes this interesting is that we have the factory coming out with # 47 (acoustic) and the OFC (-8, a/e) for a lot less than the asking prices of the originals.

Is a reissue the same as the original? As far as playability, quality, and "voice", probably. However, for some...no. They won't be satisfied until they have one of the few originals.

As this is an eBay auction, we can all see if the seller gets his reserve or more. A benefit of this offer is that we will have something of a benchmark.

There are postings on the 1942 Martin D-45. Bidding is already a lot higher than a similar new D-45 even thought there is damage to the 1942 guitar.
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cliff
Posted 2006-02-22 8:43 AM (#265293 - in reply to #265285)
Subject: Re: Slothead Warning


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". . No sale may mean that they are overpriced . ."

Not necessarily.
Just means that (as of yet) nobody's "pony-ed up" to an asking price (with the exception of the "HectorDebacle").

I'm sure the re-issues'll be nice.
(but personally, I think it'll be somewhat impossible to recapture/recreate the "MoJo" that went into the originals - btw, there were 34)
Spend enough money, you can get a really NICE recreation of a FrankLloydWright home (with 21stCentury amenities), . . but (even with all the "flaws") there's something about one of the "Originals" . . .

This guitar came from the same music store that mine did. I hope Steve gets what he wants for it.
(GoSerge! ;) )


Kinda' wish I was gonna "be around" t'see the outcome of this one . . . .
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Beal
Posted 2006-02-22 9:53 AM (#265294 - in reply to #265285)
Subject: Re: Slothead Warning



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No matter how good the reissue they will never match the original. Not just this, of anything like Cliff says above.
That said the reissue can be a great way to get real close to what the originals offered. On the other hand the originals are now 30 years old and no matter how hard you try you can't relic that. I suspect that the reissue will also be better workmanship wise (which for the guy that wants "the original vibe" is not a good thing).
Be interesting to see where this winds up price wise.
Cliff, We'll let you know, go enjoy the cruze. Have one for me!
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Waskel
Posted 2006-02-22 10:08 AM (#265295 - in reply to #265285)
Subject: Re: Slothead Warning



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Don't forget my cigars. :D

Have a great cruise, Cliff. Stay away from the rail.
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cliff
Posted 2006-02-22 10:17 AM (#265296 - in reply to #265285)
Subject: Re: Slothead Warning


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". . Don't forget my cigars . ."

Just found out about a last-minute change in the itinerary - GreatStirrupCay is out . . . DominicanRepublic is in!
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an4340
Posted 2006-02-22 10:30 AM (#265297 - in reply to #265285)
Subject: Re: Slothead Warning


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It's interesting, the "age" (no need to explain the aging factor of materials), "materials" (wood comes from different forests with different conditions, slight differences in the glues and formula for the tops) and "personnel" (different people cut, slice and glue differently) factors cannot be replicated in the copies.

It will be interesting though to see how these stack up after about three years of playing. Will they have the mojo! (Or do they now!) Has anyone been able to compare them? And who will report in three years?
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MWoody
Posted 2006-02-22 11:56 AM (#265298 - in reply to #265285)
Subject: Re: Slothead Warning



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The thought occurs to me to ask how is Steve Vaus doing? I get the feeling of a "letting it go" auction.

This will be an interesting auction. I know that there are a small handfull of OFC'ers that don't have the price barrier/SWMBO effect that the host of us Dreamers have. I wouldn't know how to play $10K worth of guitar anyway. I hope to see Serge, Tony, Stephen, Stone, Fugot or (?) from the OFC get her!

To Dream, perchance to bid!
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stonebobbo
Posted 2006-02-22 12:03 PM (#265299 - in reply to #265285)
Subject: Re: Slothead Warning



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I'm definitely not in on this one. I don't have the liquid funds available nor the talent to do this guitar justice. I'm rooting for Serge.
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fillhixx
Posted 2006-02-22 12:10 PM (#265300 - in reply to #265285)
Subject: Re: Slothead Warning



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Originally posted by Waskel:
Have a great cruise, Cliff. Stay away from the rail.
What! And leave that mess for the crew to clean up? :p
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Tony Calman
Posted 2006-02-22 12:42 PM (#265301 - in reply to #265285)
Subject: Re: Slothead Warning



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from the seller (having problems getting a password due to the server transfer):

FROM STEVE:

I had no idea my Adamas Slothead would cause such a stir! I'd like to be able to log onto OFC to participate in the discussion but the server gods
seem to be conspiring against me - I've been unable to get a password despite having registered a few days ago!

Anyhow, this baby is even more beautiful in person than the pictures do justice and I've been torn as to whether to let it go. But frankly I simply have WAY too many guitars and not enough time.

Feel free if you have any questions to email me directly at stevevaus@cox.net.

However if your question is about the reserve price, that's not something I'm willing to discuss. I wouldn't want to take the fun out of it for everyone. Suffice it to say, based on all of my research and brain picking, the reserve price is not in the stratosphere but it won't go cheap either.

I am under no pressure to sell, and if it ends out in my collection for a while longer I wouldn't be heartbroken.

Until I get my password I'll be continuing to watch the discussions - happy to know I've given y'all something to talk about for the next 6 days.

Steve Vaus
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cliff
Posted 2006-02-22 1:07 PM (#265302 - in reply to #265285)
Subject: Re: Slothead Warning


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Very glad t'hear that it's not a HardshipSale.

G'Luck, Steve!!
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-02-22 1:55 PM (#265303 - in reply to #265285)
Subject: Re: Slothead Warning


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the trawler doesn't mess around. He'll get it if he thinks it's worth it.
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TommyK
Posted 2006-02-22 2:04 PM (#265304 - in reply to #265285)
Subject: Re: Slothead Warning


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Just curious. The soundboard on that is quite different. Is it the paint job or is it a composite or other non-spruce material?
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2006-02-22 2:08 PM (#265305 - in reply to #265285)
Subject: Re: Slothead Warning


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Tommy, go to http://www.adamasguitars.com and you can read up on the history and construction of the guitars.
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cholloway
Posted 2006-02-22 3:13 PM (#265306 - in reply to #265285)
Subject: Re: Slothead Warning


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Fugot,
#45 is still available. Just not being advertised at this time... Interested???

Needless to say, I've got this one on my watched list.

GOOD LUCK STEVE!!!
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Jérôme
Posted 2006-02-22 5:10 PM (#265307 - in reply to #265285)
Subject: Re: Slothead Warning



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Hi,

Steve was so kind to send me some detailed pics of this beauty for the site.
You can see these pics HERE!!!

J :)
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stephent28
Posted 2006-02-22 6:18 PM (#265308 - in reply to #265285)
Subject: Re: Slothead Warning



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I'm kinda with Bobo on this one (since I did not when the powerball as expected :mad: )

I am hoping that Serge can pull it off....especially after the Hector debacle.
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cholloway
Posted 2006-02-22 6:25 PM (#265309 - in reply to #265285)
Subject: Re: Slothead Warning


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I was curious about the "speckled" case and case covers the slotheads went out with , so I e-mailed Steve since he bought #42 new.

He replied, "No, it did not come with a speckled case or cover. I also know that Jim Messina's did not come with such a case or cover. The
only thing special about the case was the extra room for the volume and tone knobs!"

Thanks Steve.

I think Cliff said it best... "Ackerman's got screwed" :D
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