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Jeff W.![]() |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039 Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | A bit more than a week ago, I put D'add ProArte Hard Tension strings on the new to me but, 6 year old (and in otherwise perfect condition) Hirade HD 90. Coupla days ago, I heard a "CRACK" along with the faint resonance of strings :eek: ... and after a reluctant visual inspeción, confirmed the horrible truth :( ... directly below and parrallel to the Treble side of the fretboard, soundboard checked from the soundhole to the purfling at the neck/body joint. I had finally removed the Hirade from the case having remained in the case for nearly a week while we she was coming to hold tune with the new strings. I hung it on the wall, next to the Lowden, where it lived for about a week... :rolleyes: First time any guitar I have ever owned that has suffered a sound board crack. :mad: | ||
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TRboy![]() |
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Joined: February 2003 Posts: 2178 Location: the BIG Metropolis of TR | Bummer :( Sorry to hear that.....Do you think that maybe it might have been the caused by the temperature changes of hanging between the two windows? | ||
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Jeff W.![]() |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039 Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Mike, Observant question, though the guitar was only in that spot... (which is in shadow all day as the windows face south, therefore the interior wall faces north)...for those pictures. It was living on another wall in a small alcove... | ||
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Pokeypup![]() |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 175 Location: Eugene, Oregon | :( Man, I am sorry to hear this. | ||
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stephent28![]() |
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![]() Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303 Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Jeff, while many people have different opinons about hanging guitars on walls, I have also heard one universal truth. Never, never, never, hang a guitar on an outside wall (always an interior wall) due to the temperature changes that can occur between the back of the guitar and the front of the guitar. Ovations are probably somewhat immune to this effect but wood backs would be very vulnerable to the different temps. How did the fretboard crack? An ebony board along the grain or a nasty crack that makes the guitar unplayable? | ||
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Jeff W.![]() |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039 Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Stephen, The crack is on the soundboard, right along side the fretboard. And the guitar was hanging on an interior wall. The hanger on the aforemented wall, holds the token electric JapStrat. Living in a log home, the thermal mass of the logs would negate all but the most minute of temp variations. I'm inclined to think this is due excessive dryness, but just coincided with the string change. | ||
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stephent28![]() |
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![]() Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303 Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Ahhhh, makes sense to me.....and you know the issues I am currently going through with low humidity. Actually just picked up a killer guitar from GC about 3 weeks ago for a hell of a deal. They were trying to get rid of it and it was calling my name. When I got it home, I checked and saw from the serial number that it was from 2001, so they had it for over 4 years! When I went to clean it up and changed strings and oil the fretboard, I noticed about a 6 inch long crack that ran parallel with the strings on the ebony neck. Quick call to the warranty/service group and I was informed that dryness and cracking due to negligence was not a covered item. Well the deal was too good to give it back, so I went to a local authorized expert repair facility and they filled it in with ebony dust, humidified it properly for a week and then gave it back to me. $40 later and even knowing where to look I could not spot the area of concern. | ||
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Pokeypup![]() |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 175 Location: Eugene, Oregon | Ebony dust? WOW.....cool | ||
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TRboy![]() |
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Joined: February 2003 Posts: 2178 Location: the BIG Metropolis of TR | Ebony dust....better than shrooms,man! :eek: :D | ||
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 175 Location: Eugene, Oregon | Originally posted by Trboy: :DEbony dust....better than shrooms,man! :eek: :D | ||
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Beal![]() |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127 Location: 6 String Ranch | ebony dust and super glue. | ||
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Pokeypup![]() |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 175 Location: Eugene, Oregon | ![]() | ||
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Jeff W.![]() |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039 Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | ....That's gotta be hell on the septum... | ||
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Joined: November 2005 Posts: 4832 Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Hmmmmm...... :o Ebony dust and Ivory dust Making music while my old joints rust Hanging on walls of my log cabin, bust why oh why can't it last Like my Ovation, Patiently Waiting for me... ............nah, it'd never sell | ||
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Jeff W.![]() |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039 Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | ![]() | ||
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Pokeypup![]() |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 175 Location: Eugene, Oregon | Originally posted by Jeff W.: ![]() ![]() | ||
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stephent28![]() |
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![]() Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303 Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | you guys and your smiliegenerators have too much time on your hands (and I'm really jealous!) | ||
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Joined: May 2004 Posts: 2850 Location: Midland, MI | JeffW: ![]() To whoever started the whole ebony dust thing: It has somehow gotten that old Bob Welch song 'Ebony Eyes' stuck in my head. Thanks. :rolleyes: | ||
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Waskel![]() |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840 Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by stephent28: you guys and your smiliegenerators have too much time on your hands (and I'm really jealous!) ![]() | ||
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stephent28![]() |
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![]() Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303 Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | ![]() Take that, you silly wabbit | ||
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Waskel![]() |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840 Location: closely held secret | ![]() | ||
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Joined: March 2006 Posts: 1634 Location: Chehalis, Washington | Okay, I have to ask, for those of us too new to know any better - are you guys creating those things, or stealing them from somewhere? And, how...? Oh, Jeff, not to change the subject too much - sorry about the guitar. I've heard that Taylor actually has scientific environment chambers that can heal most cracks in wood guitars. Any possibility that might help? | ||
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schroeder![]() |
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Joined: November 2004 Posts: 4413 | Originally posted by edensharvest: Okay, I have to ask, for those of us too new to know any better - are you guys creating those things, or stealing them from somewhere? And, how...? Oh, Jeff, not to change the subject too much - sorry about the guitar. I've heard that Taylor actually has scientific environment chambers that can heal most cracks in wood guitars. Any possibility that might help? [/QU] Was it a guy called Dave who told you about these "scientific environment chambers"? | ||
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bauerhillboy![]() |
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Joined: February 2004 Posts: 1634 Location: Warren,Pa. | I once had a Custom Legend 12 that this happened to. The crack was the result of a brace coming loose from the top. Do you think it's possible you have a brace problem? John <>{ | ||
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Jeff W.![]() |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039 Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | John, Evidence suggests this is not brace related. The crack happened way up on the shoulder just along side the fretboard where there is little bracing | ||
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