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v74
Posted 2006-04-06 1:09 AM (#259231)
Subject: 1713 Adamas Nylon


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I found this one in Japan . . .
It said the model number is 1713





Honestly, I never see this model before.
I personally love it a lot !

Except Blue Adamas Nylon that Mike own, this is the best O+A nylon I have ever seen. I wish I can trade my 6773LX with this one.

Such a real beauty for nylon string guitar. . . .
slothead + adamas II inlay + Deep bowl + Epaulet + well craft decor.

Would love to hear how it sound.
Any historical guide about this model would be great.
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2006-04-06 1:13 AM (#259232 - in reply to #259231)
Subject: Re: 1713 Adamas Nylon


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Simply Stunning!!! :eek: :D
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Pokeypup
Posted 2006-04-06 1:16 AM (#259233 - in reply to #259231)
Subject: Re: 1713 Adamas Nylon


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WOW!

I was at Guitar Center yesterday and they have a near mint 1713 for sale. They must have taken it as a trade. I was going to post about it.

The one at GC, looks like the ovation site pic. I have never seen one like that.
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Standingovation
Posted 2006-04-06 1:38 AM (#259234 - in reply to #259231)
Subject: Re: 1713 Adamas Nylon



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Looks like a 1537 nylon string. Nice.
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stephent28
Posted 2006-04-06 2:18 AM (#259235 - in reply to #259231)
Subject: Re: 1713 Adamas Nylon



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That really is a great looking guitar.
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giuseppe
Posted 2006-04-06 5:40 AM (#259236 - in reply to #259231)
Subject: Re: 1713 Adamas Nylon
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This is so beautiful!!!!

http://www.blue-g.com/ is one of the best stores in Japan. They have a huge inventory of Martins, Gibsons, Collings, Ovations and Adamas and many other smaller luthiers.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-04-06 10:35 AM (#259237 - in reply to #259231)
Subject: Re: 1713 Adamas Nylon


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Fascinating. My 1713 doesn't look anything like that, although they both might have cedar tops. At least mine does.
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v74
Posted 2006-04-06 11:22 AM (#259238 - in reply to #259231)
Subject: Re: 1713 Adamas Nylon


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This Adamas has cedar top too.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2006-04-06 12:23 PM (#259239 - in reply to #259231)
Subject: Re: 1713 Adamas Nylon


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It also has Adamas 2 inlays and while it looks like it was built in the early 80's, I'd bet it was actually built in the early 90's. It's got that red strip in the binding that was used later, and it also has later electronics (it could have been upgraded later tho').

I wonder about the sound. As good as it looks (and it is beautiful) I'd like to play it before I proclaim it to be a great guitar. Seems to me that the Elite configuration isn't driven hard enough by nylon strings to get a good sound. Hasn't there been discussion on this before? If it sounded as good as it looked, wouldn't have Ovation made it a production model?
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tdeej
Posted 2006-04-06 12:28 PM (#259240 - in reply to #259231)
Subject: Re: 1713 Adamas Nylon


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WOW 138,000yen = $1176 What a bargin! 1995
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Standingovation
Posted 2006-04-06 12:35 PM (#259241 - in reply to #259231)
Subject: Re: 1713 Adamas Nylon



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I agree with Moody. I would NEVER jump on anything based only on how it (she) looked. Well, wait a minute maybe that's not quite true ...
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TRboy
Posted 2006-04-06 2:56 PM (#259242 - in reply to #259231)
Subject: Re: 1713 Adamas Nylon



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Probably custom built,reason for the non-standard appointments.......Acoustic sound is probably decent but was intended to be plugged in....
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2006-04-06 3:11 PM (#259243 - in reply to #259231)
Subject: Re: 1713 Adamas Nylon


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Trboy, I agree with you. But that makes it kind of a stupid guitar. If it's meant to be plugged in, then why not put on a super shallow bowl and go for comfort? Oh well.....
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2006-04-06 3:48 PM (#259244 - in reply to #259231)
Subject: Re: 1713 Adamas Nylon


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I'll bet you any amount of money I have some strings that will make it sound better then "decent". They made that GC Adamas Classical Proto Sound like a deep bowl..... :D IF I get to come to Thailand with my church next fall, I would love the opportunity to play it. I'll Bring the strings OK?
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Omaha
Posted 2006-04-06 4:21 PM (#259245 - in reply to #259231)
Subject: Re: 1713 Adamas Nylon


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I didn't realize there was a such thing as an Adamas with a wood top.

Jeff
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v74
Posted 2006-04-06 5:20 PM (#259246 - in reply to #259231)
Subject: Re: 1713 Adamas Nylon


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I agree that we shouldn't jump into it without testing it just becoz it looks great.

However, look is so important to me when buying guitar.

I can ignor the good sound one and go for the beauty one with OK sound instead. I give Ovation a good credit and just believe that it should have at least OK sound (acceptable unplug sound).

How many percent of the look and the sound you guy weight in your mind when you decide to buy G ?
Sound 70% / Look 30% ?
or
S50 / L50 ?
or
S30% / L70% ?

I know that good guitar should have a good looking and nice sound....but I ussually don't have many chances to choose or test many G before buying.

Just a discussion.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-04-06 5:27 PM (#259247 - in reply to #259231)
Subject: Re: 1713 Adamas Nylon


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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Beautiful sound is in the ear of the beholder. Since I'm in a relatively remote area as far as guitars are concerned, I have to buy before I try also. The Ovations haven't disappointed so far.
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MWoody
Posted 2006-04-06 6:01 PM (#259248 - in reply to #259231)
Subject: Re: 1713 Adamas Nylon



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"Beauty is in the eye of the Beerholder!"
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v74
Posted 2006-04-06 9:01 PM (#259249 - in reply to #259231)
Subject: Re: 1713 Adamas Nylon


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Originally posted by mtnbikerfred:
I'll bet you any amount of money I have some strings that will make it sound better then "decent". They made that GC Adamas Classical Proto Sound like a deep bowl..... :D IF I get to come to Thailand with my church next fall, I would love the opportunity to play it. I'll Bring the strings OK?
I wish I can give u the opportunity Mr.mtnbikerfred.
I didn't buy it. Someone in Japan 'hold' it I guess.
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Tim in Tidewater
Posted 2006-04-06 9:10 PM (#259250 - in reply to #259231)
Subject: Re: 1713 Adamas Nylon



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I like it :D
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Northcountry
Posted 2006-04-07 7:40 AM (#259251 - in reply to #259231)
Subject: Re: 1713 Adamas Nylon
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"The Blue Adamas Nylon that Mike Ownes" ??

Which Mike?
Could we please see a photo of this guitar as well??

I have always been curious about a classical with the multi holes. It has always been a topic of debate; just how well those nylons strings will move a carbon/graphite top?

I know for a fact they work real well on cedar!

Randy
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Standingovation
Posted 2006-04-07 7:48 AM (#259252 - in reply to #259231)
Subject: Re: 1713 Adamas Nylon



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There's a photo on my website.



My theory: Multihole guitars sound bad enough to begin with. Why make it worse by putting nylon strings on one ...
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v74
Posted 2006-04-07 12:07 PM (#259253 - in reply to #259231)
Subject: Re: 1713 Adamas Nylon


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That's the blue one I mension. !
Never try neither blue one nor 1713 cedar, so i have no idea how it sound.

But they both look excellent to me.
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Northcountry
Posted 2006-04-07 12:13 PM (#259254 - in reply to #259231)
Subject: Re: 1713 Adamas Nylon
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Interesting. Is the bridge modified for nylon strings? and is the headstock slotted? Or is this a standard Adamas with Nylon Strings on it? Very nice guitar...So what does it sound like with the nylons??? IF you have one, please end the "wondering" for me will ya?? I clicked on your web site and did not see this one woth the Adamas nor the 6 string galleries??


Randy
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Standingovation
Posted 2006-04-07 12:18 PM (#259255 - in reply to #259231)
Subject: Re: 1713 Adamas Nylon



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I played the one in the photo. It has a slotted headstock and a modified bridge. It was OK but not great sounding. That's true of a lot of guitars when they get in my hands. Dave
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