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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-09-01 4:24 PM (#22778)
Subject: Wood vs. Carbon Graphite


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Which do you prefer the sound of more... wood topped Ovations or carbon graphite topped Adamii?
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-09-01 4:35 PM (#22779 - in reply to #22778)
Subject: Re: Wood vs. Carbon Graphite
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Compared to what? Each other?
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cliff
Posted 2008-09-01 4:37 PM (#22780 - in reply to #22778)
Subject: Re: Wood vs. Carbon Graphite


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It's pretty much similarly-based to the scent of an 80-year-old woman:

"Depends".
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2ifbyC
Posted 2008-09-01 4:51 PM (#22781 - in reply to #22778)
Subject: Re: Wood vs. Carbon Graphite
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Originally posted by cliff:
It's pretty much similarly-based to the scent of an 80-year-old woman:

"Depends".
Well based upon your renown experience in both genre, what's your honest opinion?

:D
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-09-01 4:57 PM (#22782 - in reply to #22778)
Subject: Re: Wood vs. Carbon Graphite


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I think the bracing makes as much of a difference as anything. I've had some wood tops that sounded heavenly, and others that I wouldn't play twice. (insert joke about trader jim here) All the Adami I've owned and played sound nice, with small variations. Wood tops have a much larger span of tones. (IMHO)
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cliff
Posted 2008-09-01 5:06 PM (#22783 - in reply to #22778)
Subject: Re: Wood vs. Carbon Graphite


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". . what's your honest opinion? . ."

The wood-topped models are good for that traditional, "woody" goodness that they provide, but the carbon-topped Adamas is just more highly "responsive", and is the epitome of a super-efficient "machine" converting physical vibration into "sound" (with of course, the exception being the Q's, which(t'ME, anyway) sound more "wooden" than ANY of it's carbon-based brethren) . . .

How'sThat, Iffy??
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cliff
Posted 2008-09-01 5:10 PM (#22784 - in reply to #22778)
Subject: Re: Wood vs. Carbon Graphite


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THAT all being said, I think what it REALLY comes down to is that Moody is terribly bored, and has FINALLY figured-out how to post a "poll" . . .
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-09-01 5:30 PM (#22785 - in reply to #22778)
Subject: Re: Wood vs. Carbon Graphite
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This is a tough question because it's so general. It depends on specifically what you're comparing.

An FD14 vs. an SMT faux-adamas, the FD14 eats it for lunch.

An Adamas I vs. an 1868 elite, no contest the Adamas kills it.

What the hell are you asking? If the question is "what type of tone do you prefer, that made by a carbon guitar or that made by a good wooden guitar", then it's personal preference and for me I prefer the tone of a wooden guitar. But there's a lot of Ovation wooden top guitars that suck.

No bad guys to chase on a holiday?

Dave

PS - If you are THAT bored, how about finally (what's it been 4 years?) hook up your damn soundcard and start recording something, will you? And once you figger it out, give Al a call and help him.
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Beal
Posted 2008-09-01 5:55 PM (#22786 - in reply to #22778)
Subject: Re: Wood vs. Carbon Graphite



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carbonium
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Arnaud
Posted 2008-09-01 6:00 PM (#22787 - in reply to #22778)
Subject: Re: Wood vs. Carbon Graphite



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Adamas for ever !
and SSB for comfort ..
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2008-09-01 6:04 PM (#22788 - in reply to #22778)
Subject: Re: Wood vs. Carbon Graphite


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My Adamas I is the finest all round acoustic I own.

In any recording situation where the call would be for a full bodied acoustic, it gets the nod every time. I also enjoy handing it to a player who is skeptical that Ovation ever made anything acoustically special. People like that are often blown away by the Adamas sound.

I will say though, I have a very pleasing CL mid bowl that I love to record capo'd high for counterparts. It's a sweet sound... but it's not an Adamas.
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stephent28
Posted 2008-09-01 6:15 PM (#22789 - in reply to #22778)
Subject: Re: Wood vs. Carbon Graphite



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Adamas for "that" particular sound.
All wood guitars for "that" wood sound.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2008-09-01 6:32 PM (#22790 - in reply to #22778)
Subject: Re: Wood vs. Carbon Graphite


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It depends on my time of the month...

Though, if it came down to keeping one "O" or one "A", based on sound alone... I'd probably go with the 47 RI Adamas...

But I tellz'ya folks, the UglyDelucks Balladeer would be hot on its ass.

Tough choice.
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Slidinstar
Posted 2008-09-01 6:33 PM (#22791 - in reply to #22778)
Subject: Re: Wood vs. Carbon Graphite


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But there's a lot of Ovation wooden top guitars that suck.
Which ones suck??
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-09-01 6:40 PM (#22792 - in reply to #22778)
Subject: Re: Wood vs. Carbon Graphite



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I've only played one Adamas, so I ain't really qualified to Vote... Didn't stop me tho' :cool:
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2ifbyC
Posted 2008-09-01 7:48 PM (#22793 - in reply to #22778)
Subject: Re: Wood vs. Carbon Graphite
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Originally posted by cliff:
How'sThat, Iffy??
Why cliff! I'm impressed with your cogent and uncharacteristically direct response.

Now about that 80 y.o. ex-girlfriend...
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Beal
Posted 2008-09-01 7:54 PM (#22794 - in reply to #22778)
Subject: Re: Wood vs. Carbon Graphite



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Ovations suck?
That must have been from Dr Dave.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-09-01 7:57 PM (#22795 - in reply to #22778)
Subject: Re: Wood vs. Carbon Graphite
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Originally posted by Slidinstar:
But there's a lot of Ovation wooden top guitars that suck.
Which ones suck??
I'm not going to list my dislikes here because other members own those models and might like them just fine. Just like I wouldn't call your wife ugly to your face, even if she was.

Dave
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Jeff W.
Posted 2008-09-01 7:59 PM (#22796 - in reply to #22778)
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or your children horrid...
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Slipkid
Posted 2008-09-01 8:21 PM (#22797 - in reply to #22778)
Subject: Re: Wood vs. Carbon Graphite



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Aren't polls supposed to be titled in all CAPS??

As far as the question, I voted carbon graphite but mostly I wanted to see the results.

Paul M. .... I'm surprised this type of "best / worst" poll came from you. You have become my roll model for coming to terms with the "which guitar is better" type qustions.
I hope I don't have to go searching for a new mentor.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-09-01 9:22 PM (#22798 - in reply to #22778)
Subject: Re: Wood vs. Carbon Graphite


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You know, I posted this (somewhat out of boredom) just because as much as I like the OFC slothead (ding!), the guitar I pick up the most is the 87C. I can tell you that the Adamas is a better guitar, yet I still prefer to play the wood topped Ovation. Hell, I'm about to spend money on a wood topped Ovation that could become my primary playing guitar (acoustic only, no electronics).

I didn't set up the poll correctly. For that I apologize. I guess what I'm trying to learn is how others feel about the difference between the two types of guitar and which is mostly picked up.

Maybe I'm experiencing the same thing as the Tak player who has a D size guitar and an OM size and loves them both, but picks up one more than the other.......
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Paulcc1
Posted 2008-09-01 9:23 PM (#22799 - in reply to #22778)
Subject: Re: Wood vs. Carbon Graphite


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This is what can happen when a person drinks Wild Turkey with beer chasers.
Pauly
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Northcountry
Posted 2008-09-01 9:31 PM (#22800 - in reply to #22778)
Subject: Re: Wood vs. Carbon Graphite
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Paul we really need find something for you to do while you wait for your order to come in.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-09-01 10:29 PM (#22801 - in reply to #22778)
Subject: Re: Wood vs. Carbon Graphite


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Originally posted by Paulcc1:
This is what can happen when a person drinks Wild Turkey with beer chasers.
Pauly
And your point is?
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Capo Guy
Posted 2008-09-01 10:34 PM (#22802 - in reply to #22778)
Subject: Re: Wood vs. Carbon Graphite



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I like the sound of a wood topped Ovation. Especially when they've had 15-20 years to open up.
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