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Location: Chehalis, Washington | Anyone know the current predominant choices for the OFC guitar as far as stats, or the possibility of IF, WHEN, and HOW MUCH? |
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Location: SoCal | Well, left up to OFC'ers, there was no agreement. This is a guitar that would not be possible without the work by Al. My projection is 10-12 total.
Most important, it is based on Al's parameters. Thus -8 with a/e.
So, take the 47RI and add a pre-amp and a different color. Originally the pre-amp decision was the 2-knobber. Believe that is still true. IMHO, a good pre-amp.
Price? Probably more than the list of the 47RI which is $4,999. Since Brother Bobby won't have it to sell, doubt if I will be able to get a deal like my offer for the 47RI.
I hope that they do make it - we'll have to see. It is going to take a long time for the factory to fill the 47RI orders. Bottom line, if you don't buy the 47RI, you may be out of luck and not be able to get a slothead. |
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Location: Australia | Originally posted by Tony Calman:
Bottom line, if you don't buy the 47RI, you may be out of luck and not be able to get a slothead. [/QB] ....someone quoted the factory as saying that in the future you would be able to order a slothead model as a custom order.
Though the price to build a one off may be prohibitive for most. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | There's lots of "quotes", lots of conjecture, lots of wish-lists. Perhaps even all dealers are not told exactly the same thing when they talk to "the factory". When your dealer talks to his Kaman salesperson, is he talking to "the factory"? We'll just have to wait and see if and when it happens.
I was a lurker over on the Martin board a few years back when they did their "UMGF Guitar". What a cluster-fuck for about 2 years of speculating and finger-pointing. But in the end it turned out to be a GREAT guitar (00-28 12 fret Slothead, Adarondik spruce w/ rosewood back and sides). They did it a little differently, in that all the UMGF really did was get Martin to make a particular special model aded to their catalog and then anyone interested (you, me, whoever) could go into any Martin dealer in the world, negociate your best deal, and place the order. They built the first 50 in sequence and then by special order after that. About 75 of them have been built so far. Just a different way of doing it that probably caused the board admin a lot less grief than we're giving Al lately.
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| Tupperware's Custom Custom Legend slothead would do nicely, but as a Legend. Suitable engraved TRC and everybody is happy. Forget all this fancy crap - how can it be an OFC guitar if only 10 or 12 people can afford it? Those that want to order a sky blue with pink polka dots 13 fret carved bridge 24k tuners with matching guitar strap made from the skin of 18 newly-born panda cubs can ask the factory. Nothing that has yet been mentioned seems remotely like a club guitar to me.
Just my two pennorth. |
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Location: closely held secret | Here, here. |
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Location: Snellville, GA | That's what I can't understand...4600 members and a special guitar that only 10 or 12 can afford??? |
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Location: SoCal | This started with something that OFC'er's could get to show their support of the OFC...quickly became something that the majority of the board can't afford. My belief is that whatever it is shouldn't cost more than $25-30.
I got the 47RI because I have little confidence that the OFC guitar will be made. Would like to see the OFC guitar (a 47RI with a/e) AND something else be available. |
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Location: south east Michigan | I'm sure that if Al could tell us something, he would. It must be a timing thing with the factory or something that just can't be announced until the time is right.
Even though I meant it in fun, I have been responsible for some reckless speculation myself.
I'm going to try real hard just to sit back and wait for it to happen. Maybe we will all be surprised. |
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Location: NJ | I was told that after 47 is complete they will start on the OFC model. Time will tell. |
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Location: Canton (Detroit), MI | What the OFC guitar has been stated to be from the beginning is unfortunately, something that I can't afford, like Tony said, that is why I've been nowheres-ville on the threads on it, it has been a "non-starter" with me. It's a great guitar for those who can afford it, though.
Al certainly deserves a ton of credit for making this happen, and this is not meant as criticism in any way, shape or form of his efforts. But an "OFC guitar" that much of the membership can afford probably should have been in the $1000 to $1500 range. That probably would have limited it to a Legend or Folklore variation, though, and maybe the appeal of that wouldn't have been enough....one certainly can't criticize the appeal of the guitar as it has been presented.
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Location: NJ | call me an idiot that just sells guitars for a living but I see a few OFC models in the future. |
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Location: Canton (Detroit), MI | Hopefully, the response to the first one will convince the Mothership to do future ones....
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Location: Keller, TX | The response to the first one is gonna only be 5-10 due to its price. I hope they don't base future models on the response to the first one.
I think if the build a guitar with some custom features, lots more of us would buy one.
Like a 12 fret, cutaway, slothead, koa top, single sound hole, for example. :D |
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Location: SoCal | my understanding that Martin is no longer making a Koa top due to restrictions and availability. |
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Location: N.J. | I think the bottom line on the OFC'er is that whatever model it is in and whatever color choices made available people are still gonna complain. There are just too many GREAT ideas for what it could be,{cutaway,non-cutaway,slothead,etc}.I actually liked the idea that we were having a "club guitar" but like most everyone else wasnt too thrilled on the price tag. I would however,rather have just one guitar than two or three cause I can see diaster in years to come on the secondary market.I'm looking forward to the finished production guitar,and the price...it is what it is. :rolleyes: |
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Location: Chehalis, Washington | I have to say that I agree on the price/value idea, and, forgive me for saying this: why would an official Ovation Fan Club guitar have to be an Adamas? :eek: :eek: :eek: Don't get me wrong, I love my Adamas II, but I'm equally fond of my CL, and I know several people who swear by Elites, Balladeers, etc. A lot of die-hard Ovation fans have never owned or played an Adamas, and it really is its own unique animal. I would think that something that had an "O" marque rather than an "A" would be more suitable to the OFC guitar anyway.
Also, it would make sense from a business aspect to make something that would appeal to a broader base of the 4600 people on this site. Obviously, the 47RI is meant to be a fairly exclusive, limited production item with a high future market value. A "club" guitar made for Ovation's biggest fans would seem to me to be better off as something along the lines of one of the many great Collector's editions they have made. If Ovation produced something that was in the $1200 to $1500 range, still limited production, but more along the lines of a couple hundred rather than a dozen, I think that many more people would be interested.
Also, a big part of the massive debate that has ranged over the specs of this guitar can be attributed to the fact that it has a $5K price tag. Most people are going to be far pickier about something that costs three times as much as that which is less expensive.
I have no idea how much the factory pays attention to this board, as I haven't been here long, but frankly I'd like to see a little more "accessible" club guitar. If for no other reason, Ovation fans are about the most loyal, long-term group of instrumentalists there are. As a reward of sorts and an encouragement for more continued patronage, I would think that the factory would jump at a chance to inspire more customer loyalty with a great special edition guitar that many can afford.
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Location: Australia | The OFC guitar was decided on long ago.
If you like it and can find the cash then get your order in and if not don't worry about it.
This topic has been literally talked to death. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Bottom line....how many '05 collectors were sold to OFC members and how many 06 collectors will be sold.
Probably no more than the 10-15 that we are talking about for an OFC guitar.
At least the members asking for the "OFC SPEC'ED" guitar have the money and are willing to actually spend it. Most others just talk about it but do nothing.
This is not a slam against any member but just the reality that I have witnessed over the last several years. |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by alpep:
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deleted again I for one am looking forward to seeing how Al accomplishes this in a room full of people.
Hopefully the metal detectors at the door will be working... |
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Location: Chehalis, Washington | Well, whether it's been talked to death or not, there are many people who haven't put in their two cents - which doesn't really matter as it seems that in large the issue has been decided already. I have the cash now to pick up an OFC if I wanted, so it's not even that so much that's the issue for me. It's more the concept of making an exclusive "Fan Club" guitar that costs more than a limited edition reissue of one of Ovation's finest. Does anyone else see this as kind of stupid?
I agree that from a business standpoint it makes no sense to make a guitar to the specs that dozens of people ask for who have no intention of actually purchasing one - you have to go with the requests of the people with the ability and inclination to buy. However, if there's only going to end up being 10 or 12 of these made due to the price, what's the point? Even the dozen people who actually want one at that price can't seem to agree on ALL the stats, so why don't we all just order custom guitars and scrap the whole project?
If I'm stirring up old dust, sorry. I just don't get the thought process here. Even financially, if Ovation could sell 10 guitars @ $5000 or 100 guitars @ $2000, which is going to profit them more in the long run? If I had the opportunity to make $200000 and get my product into 100 hands or make $50000 and only get 10, I would have to be crazy to turn down the larger amount. |
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Location: closely held secret | Seriously (did I say that?), the OFC guitar has been in the works for like 1 & 1/2 years, and now is not the time to start pressing for a totally different track.
I would love to buy one. But like many (most) of us, I'm not in a position to spend 3K+ on a guitar. Perhaps in the future Ovation will see fit to produce a limited edition of something 'really special' for us in a more affordable price range. We can hope.**
In the meantime, take it easy on Al. He's building a garage, you know.
And organizing the Tour. And overseeing this board. And trying to run a business.
And he'd probably rather take some time to sit and play his guitar.
**...or, we could just all buy old Balladeers and Dremels, and carve "OFC" in the headstock... |
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Location: NJ | I will talk to you at length about it at the tour. I will spend as much time as you like it on.
In fact, I encourage everyone to sign up for the tour. I would love to meet you all and talk to you. |
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OFC Guitar Stats & Status - Anyone?
