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Location: Warren,Pa. | I get the suspicion this Board is growing in popularity with the employees. We've gotten quite big in a short time, and there's a LOT of fun going on here. I don't pay attention to any other boards...just this one,but I'd imagine this one's worth paying attention to compared to what other guitar companies have going.
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | it's kinda like a car wreck. |
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Location: Marlton, NJ | Hopefully the company lawyers don't find out... we'll have to sign waivers, non-competes, non-disclosures... |
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Location: Budd Lake, NJ | I hope they are watching; after all, they get a ton of free feedback without amps and without the benefit of pollsters, postage costs, or processing return envelopes. Want to know what the Ovation-playing public at large thinks of your high-end to low-end products? New products? Options? Electronics? Aestetics? Glitches? We aren't just a club--we're a resource! Opinions cheerfully offered, good, bad but never indifferent. ;)
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| All the 'factory' and 'employee' talk has made me curious.. who among our members are current Ovation/Adamas employees?..(or are they allowed to identify themselves to the rest of us common folk?.. :) ) |
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Location: south east Michigan | That think that get's a little sticky. (Like Kenny Roger's palm.)
I always thought that employee participation here was not encourged. |
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Location: NJ | It Isn't. |
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Location: south east Michigan | And there are probably any number of good reasons. |
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| I've never considered the OFC such a subversive organization that the factory employees would be warned to stay away from us...it's not like we're trying to slither away with any 'trade secrets'... ;) (the clandestine stuff is reserved for the factory tour right...oops..ssshhh) |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | The nice thing about the internet is that everyone can be annoymous.
The worst thing about the internet is that everyone can be annonymous.
I think we should stick to the best reasons...and leave all who care to be...annonymous.
The blowback from staff posting as staff in a fan site could be....a poor career choice... |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | I think the thought process (or lack thereof) goes like this. You are employed by Kaman therefore if you say something there it could be construed as coming from an "official" source. Unless you're above a certain level (and who knows what that is) you're not allowed to speak on behalf of the company. Never say anything that could be viewed as an opinion that may have to be changed later, thereby creating embaressment (yes I know that's spelled wrong) to the company and your boss. Never do anything that would piss of GC. Never comment on ideas or suggestions, this gives the impression that the company didn't think of them first. And on and on in this paranoid frame of mind.......... |
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Location: Upper Left USA | I do think that the "OFC" would make a great reality/documentary/prime time show if well written.
I'd also like one of those Designers to help me redo the Music Room. Not the queer ones or the one that made that glued feather wall though! |
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Location: NJ | Originally posted by MWoody:
I do think that the "OFC" would make a great reality/documentary/prime time show if well written.
yup sorta like flavor of love meets the manson family |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by fillhixx:
The nice thing about the internet is that everyone can be annoymous.
The worst thing about the internet is that everyone can be annonymous.
I think we should stick to the best reasons...and leave all who care to be...annonymous. I knew there was something inherently wrong with an anonymous Canadian correcting my grammer. |
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Location: New Hartford, CT | As an ex employee and new to the site, i haven't been exposed to anyone on here who (currently) works at Ovation...That said, the work force at Ovation and Hamer is pretty small...the folks that work there that experss their opnions on this site are probably well known. I would think the employees that speak favorable about the product and the company, and use this site as a tool to help the company improve the product, Is good for everyone! Including the employee...If employees or ex employees are showing up on here just to vent their frustration with the company, or post information that would not be in the best interest to the company or OFC, I don't think they have an opinion worth listening to in the first place. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Our oldest most loyal followers are from the Factory. They have been there from the begining. Most do not post, but they read often. Anyone who has been on the annual tour can testify that they indeed are up-to-date on our daily chit-chat. |
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Location: NW NJ | Yep. |
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Location: GA USA | About the TV show idea. I was thinking about what a great PBS special could be made about Ovation history. Unique Voices is really a commercial, but if say, Angela Calman or somebody produced a show about the unique story of O, it would be every bit as good as the show about great BBQ joints, or noodling. I don't know... the noodling show is pretty good. Have you northern guys seen it? |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Originally posted by The Wabbit Formerly Known As Waskel:
I knew there was something inherently wrong with an anonymous Canadian correcting my grammer. My grammar is in excellent health...my speling's 'sic' tho.
Victim of too many years in broadcasting. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Bill's comment about the paranoid frame of mind, unfortunately seems to be the mantra of American business. The desire to stay in the mainstream must be taught in business school or inherent in those that go into business these days. Lexus has an ad that talks about all the advancements since the old days, and then advertises a car that parks itself. Hardly up there with the invention of the telephone, but vanilla enough that they may sell a ton of cars. Sorry, senile ramblings again. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Karen, you're right, it should be used that way.
Woodrow, you can't say queer anymore (not that there's anything wrong with that), maybe try opposite gender challenged.
Flumeman, there is reality and theory. All that you say is true but it leans toward the second.
Mark, our friendly lawyer understands. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Sorry Bill but their gender challenged Law and Agenda Team can locate me through my Paypal address if they want. Currently the Navy is pushing its "Diversity" campaign. It sounds great and inclusive to attracting a lot of skill and talent and putting it to use (an American concept?). The down side is when they get carried away trying to legislate tolerance for the non-contributors. Wait, how did I get started on this...
I love the way different people show up on this site and make it interestinger! We don't need no spellcheck.
Welcome again Grant, er... Flume! |
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Location: East Tennessee | For those of us who are spelling challenged here is a link to help.
Internet spell check download |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Mark, I saw where Boise made the national news yesterday.
Seems some idiot from your neck of the woods robbed a local (Boise) store. Problem was it was a survelience(sic) and security camera store....and the idiot did not cover his face except with a hood.
So....guess what....only about 10 camera angles caught him in the act of robbing the store. |
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Location: Omaha, NE | A number of years ago, I worked for a billing company here in Omaha. I was the Lead Project Engineer for what was supposed to be their next generation system. This is big stuff: Systems designed to manage 50 million cable television accounts.
Anyway, for a variety of complicated reasons, the project was a disaster. $40 million down the tubes. Problem was senior management kept telling the story about how great it was going to be.
I finally had enough and left. But I still had a bunch of stock options and a non-disclosure in place. It was frustrating as all hell: I would read messages on various investing boards where people would talk about how they just dropped a bunch of money into the stock because they heard that this new system was going to be great. It was hard to keep quiet. But I did.
In my first job, I worked at Wisconsin Public Service, an electric utility in Green Bay. We lived and breathed by our "rate case", which was the annual regulatory event where our rates were set by the state. Wall Street analysts would cold call into the company, fishing for inside info on how things were going.
One day I happened to be on the phone with a friend of mine when my boss (a senior VP) walked into my office. I pretended not to notice him and said into the phone "I really don't know, but the word around the campfire here is that its bad. All the suits are selling stock like crazy. I'm starting to worry....oops gotta go. Call anytime".
"Who was that?" My boss asked.
"Some guy. Said he was from Goldman Sachs"
Shoulda seen him turn white.
The irony in the market today is that customers value transparency more than just about anything else. They are also pretty reasonable most of the time. But they can also be ruthless. In any case, the desire for secrecy can be pretty destructive. The reality is that most of the time, the secrecy keeps companies from realizing just how out of the loop most employees are.
One of the early mantras of the internet was that "information can not be contained". I'm not sure that is literally true, but you will never catch me betting on a secret.
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