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Location: East Wenatchee, WA | I have been keeping an eye on the two 2080's on ebay this last several days, and must wonder if the 2080 is just too unusual for most guitar players.
Most agree that the sound and feature set makes it a very sweet guitar, and obviously the VIP doesn't hurt it since many other O's/A's use it, so it must be styling. I admit that I bought mine on the recommendation of those here who talked about it after the Tour, but I have always been game for trying the unusual (don't go there).
But I wonder....if the 2080's don't move real fast, are they destined to be discontinued? Or will Ovation hang in there until they get some exposure?
On the one hand, it means I have another "semi-collector" type guitar (ala 1537), on the other hand, I hate to see them not getting recognition. |
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Location: NJ | 2080 has not really been marketed correctly IMHO. it is a GREAT guitar and I doubt they will give up too quickly on it. |
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Location: NW NJ | That's good, cause I'm really enjoying mine! :D |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | and I have matching 6 & 12 string 2080 baritones on order. |
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Location: Chehalis, Washington | I'll get to try one out in a week or so. It's a cool concept IMO, but definitely could be a hard sell for the price over a lot of mid-range guitars with the simplicity of its looks. The original-style Adamas all had that very elegant styling to them (carving, coloring, etc) that made them stand out. The 2080 stands out too, but because of its sleekness and simplicity, rather than its grandeur.
Basically, it's a real player's Adamas - ultra-durable and perfect for stage or studio, but not all the flash and bling of a "fancy" model.
As I understand it, Ovation is most likely going to be moving the Adamas line eventually to basically a custom-order product, with little or no standard production models at all, other than limiteds and reissues. Kind of makes sense, since those who are going to fork out $2000 to $5000 for an Adamas pretty well already know what they want in a guitar anyway, and would just as soon have one built to spec. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Originally posted by edensharvest:
As I understand it, Ovation is most likely going to be moving the Adamas line eventually to basically a custom-order product, with little or no standard production models at all, other than limiteds and reissues. Considering how few stores carry the Adamas line, it makes perfect sense.....maybe advertise a bit more to get the word out, then let the dealers handle special orders. |
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Location: NJ | Originally posted by edensharvest:
I'll get to try one out in a week or so. It's a cool concept IMO, but definitely could be a hard sell for the price over a lot of mid-range guitars with the simplicity of its looks. The original-style Adamas all had that very elegant styling to them (carving, coloring, etc) that made them stand out. The 2080 stands out too, but because of its sleekness and simplicity, rather than its grandeur.
they are not going for the adamas i market with this guitar IMHO all adamas guitars should cost DOUBLE what they do now. |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | As I understand it, Ovation is most likely going to be moving the Adamas line eventually to basically a custom-order product, with little or no standard production models at all, other than limiteds and reissues
Wow. That would make me sad. It's like getting accustomed to buying acuras, and then being told you'll only be able buy regular production accords (which are OK) but if you want an acura you'll have to special order it (and pay more). If you're a collector that's great, if your a player it's not so good. I guess I should be happy that I have mine.
By the way, the 2080 Baritone is great. |
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Location: Lake Hiawatha, New Jersey | I think that the looks of the 2080 are not for everyone. I must admit, it took a while for it to grow on me. What sold me on it was the sound. Al was playing one (the one I ended up buying) at the OFC gathering and I was blown away by full, rich sound. It's quickly become my favorite guitar. |
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Location: NJ | That IS a great guitar, John!!
GoodLuck with your new musical partner!
(oh, . . and with the 2080, too . . .) |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | The 2080 is unquestionably a fantastic instrument. It's only been a year, so let's see what happens. I've seen NO public advertising of this model. NO artist endorsements. NO shops stocking it. Hell, sounds to me like Adamas has already gone to custom shop only.
One issue (obsticle) with the 2080 may be that in the price range which it competes ($2000+) there are a lot of high quality traditional looking guitars. And I would also guess that buyers in this price range are more "tradional" rooted comsumers. A 16 year old will jump on a matte black squire with black tuners because it loks "cool". A middle aged white guy who can't dance (me) going through mid-life GAS probably isn't going to be interested in a 2080.
Don't get me wrong. I really like everything about the 2080. But it just does not strike me as something I want to own. I prefer much more traditional looking instruments. I'm tired of explaining to people why the other 99% of the guitar buying public is wrong. Just call me an old fuddy-duddy.
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Location: NJ | I'll admit that I never liked the "looks" of it when I first saw it, but after hearing it (ESPECIALLY with the VIP), I'm learning to overlook the "Cyclops with Downe's Syndrome" appearance of it . . . |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by cliff:
I'm learning to overlook the "Cyclops with Downe's Syndrome" appearance of it . . . That would be CDS. |
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Location: Lake Hiawatha, New Jersey | Originally posted by cliff:
That IS a great guitar, John!!
GoodLuck with your new musical partner!
(oh, . . and with the 2080, too . . .) Thanks Cliff! I'm going to need luck! (with the new musical partner I mean, the guitar is great!) :D |
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Location: Chehalis, Washington | Originally posted by Tupperware:
The 2080 is unquestionably a fantastic instrument. It's only been a year, so let's see what happens. I've seen NO public advertising of this model. NO artist endorsements. NO shops stocking it. Hell, sounds to me like Adamas has already gone to custom shop only.
One issue (obsticle) with the 2080 may be that in the price range which it competes ($2000+) there are a lot of high quality traditional looking guitars. And I would also guess that buyers in this price range are more "tradional" rooted comsumers. A 16 year old will jump on a matte black squire with black tuners because it loks "cool". A middle aged white guy who can't dance (me) going through mid-life GAS probably isn't going to be interested in a 2080.
Don't get me wrong. I really like everything about the 2080. But it just does not strike me as something I want to own. I prefer much more traditional looking instruments. I'm tired of explaining to people why the other 99% of the guitar buying public is wrong. Just call me an old fuddy-duddy.
Dave I think you hit that on the head. For the price range, unless you're already an Adamas fan and looking for something unique, it just isn't going to hit you as the "best" for the money. Soundwise, I'm sure it beats the heck out of anything comparable, but the cosmetics of it are such that it really targets a specific type of buyer.
Oh, and Tuppy, you are an old fuddy-dud. ;) |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Dave's an old fuddy duddy. (He told me to.) |
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Location: East Wenatchee, WA | The funny thing is, ever since I bought and started playing the 2080 at church, and other public places, people are very interested in it and without exception people (young and old) thinks it looks "cool" and of course sounds fantastic to boot.
I have not had a single negative comment from the "NON GUITAR PLAYING" public. Guitar players on the other hand roll there eyes.
I took it into Ted Brown's in Richland to audition the Yamaha Magic Stomp pedal. The rep was extremely curious and when he heard it was blown away at the sound. The 16 something crowd hanging around the guitar room all had positive comments about the looks....at least I think so, as I am not sure about words like "dope" or "rad" or.....are those positives????
Anyway....still happy with mine thus far. Again, enough so that reduced to one guitar it would be the Adamas over the 1537 but for durability and convenience slightly edging out the superior sounding 1537. |
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Location: East Wenatchee, WA | I did just have a funny thought, however.
Having a photo site the displayed everyones 2080 probably would not have the same impact as one displaying a bunch of Utes or 47's huh.
But hey...I like understated. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Originally posted by edensharvest:
I think you hit that on the head. For the price range, unless you're already an Adamas fan and looking for something unique, it just isn't going to hit you as the "best" for the money.
Exactly why I went with the 2080 for the twin baritones.....durable, adamas sound and unique looks to go with a special non-standard guitar. |
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Location: Chehalis, Washington | Of course. On this board anyway, who wouldn't at least appreciate the sound of an incredible Adamas? The funny thing is we try to sell each other and ourselves here on instruments that everyone here already can appreciate...or we wouldn't be here.
Just one more reason for Ovation to get some higher-level marketing or artist endorsements. Take the appeal to those outside the "fan" base. |
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Location: Budd Lake, NJ | I have played the 2080--it's a phenomenal guitar. The three I've tried out are just joys to play. My only negative reaction is that looks-wise, seeing it through feminine eyes, it strikes me as being strictly a man's guitar. Sort of a "Hummer-among-Mom-mobiles" kind of thing. I don't look at and think "perfume;" my reaction to it is "after shave." That's not necessarily a bad thing; I just can't see any of my guitar sisters picking out the 2080 as their axe of choice. Now, if that style were offered in maybe a lighter color, like a silvery, pale gray, I'd think about it...... ;)
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Location: East Wenatchee, WA | Good point Karen,
On a couple of occassion I thought it would make a great canvas for some great airbrush artistry. Or maybe some subtle flaming in a gray/blue or something really weird. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | "Aftershave"?????
I guess you have to say that in a very deep voice.
Thankfully my 2080 is a long neck so that's no problem.
Actually a silver bowl and top with a maple neck, that would be nice, black binding strip and f/b and catseye. Not sure how feminine that is either but it sure would look good, maybe even Tuppy would want one of those? |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | just put "Daisy Rock" on the headstock.... |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | OK, laugh all you want to. Just personal opinions, but I don't think the 2080 (in black or silver) is a good looking instrument by my standards. But everyone that I have played, and esPECIALLy Bills longneck, sounds amazing. And for the record Daisy Rock makes some damn good stuff for the money. Again, I do not like the way it looks and a certainly don't want to own one, but they are functionally very nice instruments in their price range, especially the 12'er. Dave |
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2080 an Orphan???
