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Location: Marlton, NJ | Last night, I went out to dinner with my wife and a couple of friends for my anniversary... a place called the Library. Toward the end of the evening, this guy with a guitar came on (not an O... couldn't tell what it was). He starts playing and he sounds like an orchestra playing Allman bros, Jimmy Buffett, etc. The one instrument I couldn't hear in the songs was the freaking guitar! To me, it wasn't entertaining at all... I would have rather just heard the guy and his guitar playing some songs. It was like watching a movie when the soundtrack is off by a couple of seconds.
Great steak though! |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | He played steak??? |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Rib eye tuned to "D" |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Library's still there, eh? I figured that would have been swallowed up by a Bed Bath and Beyond or some such....
I hate "over-produced" music.
Sorry to hear the music was wanting but, I hope you got lucky after dinner.... ;)
Happy Anniversary |
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Location: Marlton, NJ | Say no more....nudge nudge |
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Location: NJ | mike
was that guy a rather large guy? in his forties/fifties? if so I saw him and his brother (drummer) play a wedding with a bass player. rather intersting for hear b 3 coming out of a guitar. |
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Location: Marlton, NJ | Al - it was weasely looking little guy (apologies to any weasels out there). The age is about right though. It's a good thing we had a few drinks in us. |
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Location: East Tennessee | Originally posted by Jeff W.:
I hate "over-produced" music.
Why some people buy a nice acoustic/electric guitar then go to extremes to make it sound like something else? :confused:
Less is more. :) |
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Location: Hiram, Georgia | that's why you should always pick the tomatoes out of your salad and save them for the show, just in case! |
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Location: NJ | I can't STAND these clowns that show and do gigs with backing trax on a laptop!!!
We've got a local duo around here (I won't publically mention their name) that consists of a guy playing electric guitar/vocals and woman who plays drums/vocals. The guitar player's got this whole rolling rig with effects and a laptop controlling what I assume are pre-package midi backing tracks (WITH a drum track!).
So, this broad is singing(badly) whilst playing(?) the drums at about a half beat OFF from the backing drum track.
The only saving grace is that by the second set she gets sloggered enough on PinotGrigio to where she vascillates in/out of "time", so that she's "in the pocket" 33.3% of the time, and you time the moments you look up from your meal accordingly. |
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Location: Lake Hiawatha, New Jersey | The worst one that I saw was an older guy with a little passport PA sitting on a table beside him (not even with the speakers detached), a strat,
and a CD player. He started doing these horrible versions of Sinatra (and the like) tunes. Fortunately, we hadn't ordered dinner yet, so we drank up and got the hell outta there.
This is a place that both I and Cliff's duo (Two Man Group) would later play, and the venue complained about us not bringing in enough people! I can't be sure, but I would think that neither of us ever drove people out of the place, which is more than I could say for this guy! |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Funny... I thought Cliff was tawkin' about Bruggy... |
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Location: NJ | Bruggy doesn't look that good in red lipstick (trust me on that one) . . .
This same place that John is referring to (that complained that "WE" didn't "bring people in") was the same place that did absolutely DICK in regards to advertising that they even HAD entertainment . . and thought that a "webpage" came out of a Spiderman comic . . . |
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Location: Lake Hiawatha, New Jersey | "Bruggy doesn't look that good in red lipstick (trust me on that one) . . ."
It's always something! Last week he said my ass was getting to big! What a bitch! |
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Location: East Wenatchee, WA | You guys forget who is paying the majority of the dough for these folks, however....the other "non-musically inclined" that sit around wanting to hear exact replication of some 70's song or another.
I don't blame these folks abit. They are probably hired for their ability to please a crowd, and I would best most of the crowd could care less about the purity of the music.
That's why for years, I put my guitar away and was paid very nicely (after my day job) to play albums to middle aged and older folks at the American Legion on my PA system. I was a live DJ before it was cool.
If you want the kind of music you describe, you will likely have to find a different venue. In this day of Britney and such, technology rules the purse strings. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | And Jeffrey probably put the record on the turntable and just let it play, instead of moving it back and forth to make scratching noises and calling it music. |
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Location: Oregon | I have this friend see? His band has over six keyboards, a bassist(does that count?) and a drummer. It's wreched music.... there is NO guitar at all. And it's really really slow music as well. |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Rent the movie El Mariachi, the first one. There's a great scene where the mariachi is looking for a job, and he goes into a bar with his guitar and the owner points to these lazy slug with a keyboard who presses one key and becomes a one man band. Very funny movie, lots of violence in the vein of the cohen brothers, but mexican. |
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Location: Omaha, NE | The reality of live music today is that you have to bring your own audience. If your getting paid $500 for a friday and saturday night, you better plan on bringing in at least 75 to 100 people over and above the regular crowd. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | I think this story will sum it up...
Whilst in Hawaii I was chatting with the band (2 people) at the top of the Ala Moana hotel bar. It was a Saturday night, the place was rockin, lots of dancing, drinking, Miss Hawaii stopped in... fun nite. Anyway, I asked the guy from the band what the deal was as I saw a drum kit, and a bass, and a keyboard rack... but it was just him on guitar and a girl singing and everything else was midi.
He explained that they normally performed as a band but for rehearsing, they have everything sequenced so they can practice the arrangements separately. That all sounded logical and in fact what I did also when I played.. And he continued... They really like when the Bass/Keyboard player and Drummer don't show. It's usually because they got individual gigs elsewhere. The other folks get full checks, and these two get to split the check 2 ways instead of 4. Plus tips it works out better for everyone. The bar doesn't really care cause they are going to be packed anyway, and the two that do show up are having so much fun they probably spend at least one of the other guys checks on tips to the bar and wait staff. Everybody's happy.
I did a few gigs in the 90's with a bass player, keyboard, myself and sequenced drums. It actually sounded good, just looked a little odd (no wisecracks please.) It actually worked out well because we only did openings (one 40 minute set). It usually took about 3 or 4 tunes in before anyone really noticed there wasn't a drummer. I couldn't imagine doing a whole nite like that tho. One set, after they catch on, it's kindofa "hey that's pretty neat" but I think by the 2nd set, it would have been just wrong. |
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Location: Seattle | Dunno. An Ovation is almost too much technology for me. I'm starting to like playing a guitar with a mic shoved in front of it again. |
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Location: Hiram, Georgia | are you trying to get excommunicated? :mad: |
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Location: GA USA | Originally posted by Mr. Ovation:
(no wisecracks please.) Yeah, that'll happen here. |
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Location: Seattle | No no no, it's all good. I appreciate Ovations. I'm just too lazy to plug them in. |
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Location: Hiram, Georgia | Damon, just kidding. ;) I'm surprised they haven't run me off yet. This group has standard's albeit they are very low! :D |
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OT - Too much technology??
