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Slipkid
Posted 2006-12-03 11:32 AM (#228848)
Subject: Endorsements.. correct me if I'm wrong



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Ref: the Nancy Wilson thread.

Maybe the artists are just not out there.
Look at the popular music of the last 15 years. Where are todays versions of Nancy or Mellisa or Glen Campbell or Cat Stevens or America or Kenny Loggins, or even Neal Diamond and David Cassidy for cryn' out loud??

Compared to 20 years ago, who gets up front with guitar in hand and plays and sings anymore?? What percentage of today's "popular" music is even guitar music?? Can anyone name one "popular" guitar god that has come along in the last 10 years?

Maybe we'll be able to come up with 5 names, but whatever the number, there used to be 5 times that back in the day.

Maybe we should not knock Kaman's endorsement policy. Do you really want Clapton or Stephen Stills to endorse a Ovation signature model? At this point, wouldn't that lack credibility and have the nasty taste of doing it just for the money?

btw... I know that's alot of "????" but I checked my inventory and if don't use them by the end of the year, I loose them. :)
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Tupperware
Posted 2006-12-03 11:41 AM (#228849 - in reply to #228848)
Subject: Re: Endorsements.. correct me if I'm wrong


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Originally posted by Slipkid:
Maybe the artists are just not out there.
Look at the popular music of the last 15 years. Where are todays versions of Nancy or Mellisa or Glen Campbell or Cat Stevens or America or Kenny Loggins, or even Neal Diamond and David Cassidy for cryn' out loud??
Brad, they are out there. Problem is that old farts like you and I just can't see them. We ARE our parents.

Dave
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-12-03 11:56 AM (#228850 - in reply to #228848)
Subject: Re: Endorsements.. correct me if I'm wrong


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They are out there. Many of them... John Meyer for one quick example...

I think you just have to look harder or in different places these days. All the guitar gods we grew-up with were readily available over the radio. The way the recording and radio industries work these days is far different and new guitar focused (and other great genres) music just isn't featured...
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Slipkid
Posted 2006-12-03 12:05 PM (#228851 - in reply to #228848)
Subject: Re: Endorsements.. correct me if I'm wrong



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new guitar focused music just isn't featured...
Dat's what I'm saying.

John Meyer... that's one.
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G8r
Posted 2006-12-03 12:12 PM (#228852 - in reply to #228848)
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Dave Matthews - that's two.
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G8r
Posted 2006-12-03 12:16 PM (#228853 - in reply to #228848)
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Oh, and disregarding that sappy, overly-sentimental "Collide" that got airplay last year, Howie Day does some good stuff.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-12-03 12:49 PM (#228854 - in reply to #228848)
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Some great young(er) players these days:
Johnny Lang, Martin Zeller, Derek Trucks, Kasey Chambers, Chris Matthews, Joe Bonamassa, Patti Rothberg....
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edensharvest
Posted 2006-12-03 1:01 PM (#228855 - in reply to #228848)
Subject: Re: Endorsements.. correct me if I'm wrong


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Someone needs to convince Santana to pick up an Adamas to try out, and have him play it with some of the dozens of newer artists he does duets with...great way to get a public showing.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2006-12-03 1:14 PM (#228856 - in reply to #228848)
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Blame the lack of upfront musicians on corporate radio. With computer play-lists, and marketing research.
A DJ pointed-out that nowadays we would have never heard of Lynyrd Skynyrd, Joe Cocker, Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix, Cat Stevens, CSN&Y, Santana, or dozens of others. None of these musicians would have fit into any of their cliche niche's.
Skynyrd wouldn't be country, they ain't rock (they's country boys).
Jimi ain't Hip-Hop, and he's too Black for rock.
Janis, a fat drunk chick singing Bessie Smith?
Pink Floyd? Frank Zappa?
You get my point... I've heard (and so have you) street musicians that were better than anything on the airwaves/mtv.

Add On-- I'm gonna go looking for Brad Paisley on the web.
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colt357
Posted 2006-12-03 2:13 PM (#228857 - in reply to #228848)
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Brad Paisley,comes to mind.

Dave
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stephent28
Posted 2006-12-03 5:21 PM (#228858 - in reply to #228848)
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Kaki King
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nonis
Posted 2006-12-03 9:39 PM (#228859 - in reply to #228848)
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Kaki King isn't really popular. I love her, but I don't know anyone else who knows about her. In that vein, I'd say Joey Eppard... but he's about as popular as Kaki.
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Capo Guy
Posted 2006-12-03 10:43 PM (#228860 - in reply to #228848)
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Originally posted by colt357:
Brad Paisley,comes to mind.

Dave
Vince Gill and Steve Warnier are two more GOOD country pickers. :cool:
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colt357
Posted 2006-12-03 11:03 PM (#228861 - in reply to #228848)
Subject: Re: Endorsements.. correct me if I'm wrong


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GGG, I couldn't agree more. Saw Vince with Clint Black and Reba in concert. Vince is an incredible player and Clint is no slouch either. And Steve Warner (and his brother) has always been a favorite of mine.

Dave
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Bluebird
Posted 2006-12-04 8:27 AM (#228862 - in reply to #228848)
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Keith Urban is a great player, very popular these days and much influenced by Glen Campbell.

Wayne
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Stuart Miller
Posted 2006-12-04 8:30 AM (#228863 - in reply to #228848)
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Maybe now we have the contour bowl, Vince would be a stellar endorsee. Before that, with Vince's weight swings, anything other than a SSB would have to be played tilted 45 degrees to the ceiling. :D
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brainslag
Posted 2006-12-04 9:03 AM (#228864 - in reply to #228848)
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Let's get a coupla O's in the hands of some upstanding rap artists. I can see it now: 50 Cent waxing poetic about drinking 40's, whackin' his bitches and ho's and cappin' some po-lice while playing a slothead reissue.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2006-12-04 9:13 AM (#228865 - in reply to #228848)
Subject: Re: Endorsements.. correct me if I'm wrong



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I agree on Keith Urban. He performed some very nice solo work on the James Taylor PBS tribute show. Brad Paisley is also an excellent musician. I miss the balladeer types like John Denver, Jim Croce, Dan Fogelberg and James Taylor who were difficult to categorize into any specific music genre even when they were at their height of popularity.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2006-12-04 11:43 AM (#228866 - in reply to #228848)
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Keith Urban is a great player, very popular these days and much influenced by Glen Campbell.
No kidding ... KU is now in rehab hisself.
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wilblee
Posted 2006-12-04 11:54 AM (#228867 - in reply to #228848)
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Ray Lamontagne, Amos Lee, Citizen Cope, the Decembrists would all be good candidates, in my humble, but accurate, opinion.

And, of course, one genre where the singer/songwriter is prominent and the genre itself is the fastest growing (some say the only growing) segment in the music market - Contemporary Christian music. Get guys like David Crowder, Todd Agnew, Chris Tomlin and Jeremy Camp sportin' O's and you'll be gettin' bigtime, all the time exposure
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2006-12-04 12:02 PM (#228868 - in reply to #228848)
Subject: Re: Endorsements.. correct me if I'm wrong


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This guy was playing live on a pretty high-profile UK music show this week

http://anthonydavidmusic.com

He was playing a recent Custom Legend. Sounded great. Nice to see a young, hip guitarist not playing a Taylor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG-u6vs3U-M
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edensharvest
Posted 2006-12-04 12:22 PM (#228869 - in reply to #228848)
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Wilblee - I heard a little rumor a while back about a possible Adamas endorsement for Steven Curtis Chapman...rumor is he was VERY impressed with another guy's 2080.

Interesting to see if something comes of that.
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Styll
Posted 2006-12-04 7:12 PM (#228870 - in reply to #228848)
Subject: Re: Endorsements.. correct me if I'm wrong


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ok...maybe i havent sold a trillion copies but i think i carry the name and sound proudly :)

Im always endorsing the guitars no matter where i go...

come on throw me a bone here... :)
or rather an endorsemment.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-12-04 7:20 PM (#228871 - in reply to #228848)
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You've got my endorsement, Styll. Happy now?
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colt357
Posted 2006-12-04 8:34 PM (#228872 - in reply to #228848)
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Not sure how I overlooked Keith Urban. He is very good. He played our town this past July. Awesome show and very impressive fret work.

Dave
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