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Wuzhizzoner
Posted 2002-06-17 3:14 PM (#221028)
Subject: USA Legend


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I found this BEAUTIFUL Legend (1777 I think) USA Design -- painted like a flag! One salesman tells me they only made 125 of them. Another says they only made 25. Can anyone out there tell me anything about it? It plays BEAUTIFULLY -- like any other Legend. They're charging around $1700 here in San Antonio. Excellent electronics package with it.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2002-06-17 7:32 PM (#221029 - in reply to #221028)
Subject: Re: USA Legend


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I first saw one earlier this year. I know they are limited, and I suspect they are an answer to the patriotic feeling following 9/11. I know that I want one. I know that I can't afford one. I know that I'm bummed.
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Wuzhizzoner
Posted 2002-06-18 8:39 AM (#221030 - in reply to #221028)
Subject: Re: USA Legend


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Thanks moodypi. More importantly, tho, is will the price go down if I wait another six montyhs or so to get it. It is a basic legend -- but it's the paint scheme rthat makes it more sweet!
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cliff
Posted 2002-06-18 10:29 AM (#221031 - in reply to #221028)
Subject: Re: USA Legend


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Is that the one in the Ovation ads w/DJ Ashby?
(Is that the best person they could get??)

$1700's a bit stiff for a Legend, though.

Does anyone know if that flag design is actually "painted" on the top?

I pray to god they didn't "cheese out" and put a digital graphic on there with a coat of clear over it.
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Wuzhizzoner
Posted 2002-06-18 1:02 PM (#221032 - in reply to #221028)
Subject: Re: USA Legend


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You're right -- it is the one with DJ Ashby. There is a coat of clear coat over it. I thought the price was quite steep as well.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2002-06-18 5:51 PM (#221033 - in reply to #221028)
Subject: Re: USA Legend


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Hey guys, you think $1700 is steep? The list on a standard Legend in the UK is around £1700, that's about $2500USD!!!!!!!!!!
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cliff
Posted 2002-06-18 6:12 PM (#221034 - in reply to #221028)
Subject: Re: USA Legend


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Paul;

Send me $1,500 and a round trip tik on Virgin and I'll deliver ya' one!!
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2002-06-18 6:26 PM (#221035 - in reply to #221028)
Subject: Re: USA Legend


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I just saw a picture of some country artist (Toby Keith?) who was playing a Takamine with the same paint job.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2002-06-18 6:32 PM (#221036 - in reply to #221028)
Subject: Re: USA Legend


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Cliff, that's actually a pretty good deal, but I'll wait until you want to sell me your slothead.

Paul
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stonge
Posted 2002-06-18 8:43 PM (#221037 - in reply to #221028)
Subject: Re: USA Legend


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I thought I heard something about that paint job having been done outside Ovation (for some reason I'm thinking it was PPG, and a pretty hefty pricetag for the paintjob alone). I'm almost positive that wasn't any kind of a decal/photofinish - haven't seen any in person so I can't say for sure. Looks pretty good to me; I've seen things way less cool for way more money lol...
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alpep
Posted 2002-06-19 6:31 AM (#221038 - in reply to #221028)
Subject: Re: USA Legend


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I've seen the guitars but did not examine them that closely.
sorry but the stars ands stripes thing appealed to me back in the mc5 days and that was on a tele not an acoustic
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Wuzhizzoner
Posted 2002-06-19 12:00 PM (#221039 - in reply to #221028)
Subject: Re: USA Legend


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It's an actual paint job -- and a good one too. So you think that's a good price, or should I hold out till it drops to $1100?
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2002-06-19 12:31 PM (#221040 - in reply to #221028)
Subject: Re: USA Legend


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Here's one on ebay with the bidding starting at $1000.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=886987068
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OGL1
Posted 2002-06-19 12:41 PM (#221041 - in reply to #221028)
Subject: Re: USA Legend


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These guys at Music123 say that there were only 75 made and they want $1699.99 for theirs.

Music123
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OGL1
Posted 2002-06-19 12:45 PM (#221042 - in reply to #221028)
Subject: Re: USA Legend


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Originally posted by moodypi:
Here's one on ebay with the bidding starting at $1000.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=886987068


$1000 starting bid, but has a reserve which isn't met yet
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2002-06-19 1:04 PM (#221043 - in reply to #221028)
Subject: Re: USA Legend


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How can the reserve be met? Nobody's bid on the thing yet.
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Wuzhizzoner
Posted 2002-06-19 3:22 PM (#221044 - in reply to #221028)
Subject: Re: USA Legend


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OK you guys so give me some intel: The USA Legend shown with DJAshby on the Ovation page appears to have pearl buttons, as does the one from Music123. But the one on e-bay appears to have the gold buttons. ANyone have any intel on this? I am tempted to bid on the one on E-bay.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2002-06-19 3:40 PM (#221045 - in reply to #221028)
Subject: Re: USA Legend


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Don't worry about the color of the tuning buttons. Bid on the one on ebay up to where you feel comfortable and see what happens.
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Beal
Posted 2002-06-19 9:18 PM (#221046 - in reply to #221028)
Subject: Re: USA Legend



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OK, I checked with a reliable source.
they made 75 and these listed at $2599 They blew through them.
Now it's available as a special order for $3299 list a pop. It's been well recieved too.
I don't know how it's done but It is probably a stencil pattern and painted on individually for each guitar. The ones I've seen are really well done. But you have to ask yourself, do I want this on my guitar in 5-10 years from now? How easy will it be to get rid of the instrument then and for how much?
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2002-06-19 9:48 PM (#221047 - in reply to #221028)
Subject: Re: USA Legend


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I hate to sound cynical, but does patriotism only last 5-10 years? Some people will buy this guitar as a trend and to be cool. Others will buy it because they happen to love both the flag and Ovations.
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alpep
Posted 2002-06-19 9:52 PM (#221048 - in reply to #221028)
Subject: Re: USA Legend


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Moody the flag motif goes in cycles I think that is what cwk was trying to say. I would love to find out what happened to Fred sonic Smith;s flag painted tele.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2002-06-19 10:10 PM (#221049 - in reply to #221028)
Subject: Re: USA Legend


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I understand Al. I've just never followed cycles. About every 8-9 years my hair is of stylish length as the styles move past me one way or another.

I'd play a guitar like that forever.
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cliff
Posted 2002-06-20 7:37 AM (#221050 - in reply to #221028)
Subject: Re: USA Legend


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They're probably airbrushed using computer-cut transparent "friskets" in four passes: white, red, blue and then black.

I'm wondering how they'll look when they "age".
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2002-06-20 8:14 AM (#221051 - in reply to #221028)
Subject: Re: USA Legend


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Cliff, what's a "frisket"? I've never heard that term before.
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cliff
Posted 2002-06-20 8:47 AM (#221052 - in reply to #221028)
Subject: Re: USA Legend


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What's matta!

Did'n chu have a big old Chevy van widda' friggin' dragon painted on da' side in da' '70's??

"Friskets" (no, NOT cat food!!!) were basically "stencils" used in airbrushing. Frisket paper was (is) like tracing paper (only a LITTLE thicker) and has a light "stickiness" to the backside. You stick it down over your artwork, sketch out the next "shape" you want to airbrush (since it's thin you can see through it), cut the shpe out lightly with an X-acto knife, and then paint.

Nowadays with the advent of computer technology, simple patterns (like the flag motif) can be run off "en masse" and airbrushed one color at a time.
The same technology is used (with a thicker rubber material) for sandblasting cemetery monuments. There aren't THAT many guys that carve stone by hand any more. In my industry (we have about two dozen offices nationwide), I'm probably one of a handful of people that can still hand letter a sign. A dying art.

".....pinstriping, anyone?..."
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