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| Norseman1 |
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Joined: May 2002 Posts: 1026 Location: Back in the Valley of the Sun Mesa Az. | I love the richer tone I get with them. A little concerned about the added pressure on my old acoustic legend, but I suspect it was originally made to be played with medium strings. Norse(still in love)man1 | ||
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| Paul Templeman |
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 5750 Location: Scotland | I have an old Legend I use for slide, I use custom heavy gauge strings (I.E. heavier than 13-56 medium gauge) It didn't even need a truss rod tweak when I moved up th that gauge & hasn't moved at all since. You shouldn't have a problem with mediums on a USA Ovation. Paul | ||
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| Jiminos |
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Joined: April 2002 Posts: 196 Location: Shelton, Washington, USA | Don't worry about the tension difference.... I use mediums on all five of my O's (ranging in age from new to 24 years old. None exhibit any issues with mediums. BTW... I think O's ship (and shipped) from the factory with lights. | ||
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| Norseman1 |
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Joined: May 2002 Posts: 1026 Location: Back in the Valley of the Sun Mesa Az. | "sounds" good! Thanks for the replies. I was a little concerned due to some bowing already present between the saddle and sound hole, but the neck feels solid as a rock! Norse(perhaps someday I'll be brave enough to try heavy)man1 | ||
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| Beal |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127 Location: 6 String Ranch | Go For the Mediums Norse(you da)man1! | ||
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| Bradley |
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 613 Location: Zion, Illinois | I switched to mediums this weekend on my Elite. Sounds great, but I'm getting groves in my fingertips. Sounds great - ouch Sounds great - ouch You get the picture. Has anybody here tried Webstrings Bluegrass? They seem to be somewhere in between. .012 .016 .025w .034 .045 .056 Low's seem medium, highs seem light. I'm trying them next. Bradley :eek: (ouch) :eek: BTW, I tried those acid proof Titaniums on my (pardon my language) Gibson. Don't like them at all for tone. | ||
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| moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15680 Location: SoCal | Here you guys are going to medium gauge strings and after all the crap I took cwktwo and others, I went to extra lights on all my guitars. My fingers now don't hurt at all because now my guitars sound like crap and I don't play them any more. Seriously, mediums, I think, are the way to go. They really drive the top on Ovations and give the best sound. By the way, I took the first steps today to track down an Adamas slothead that I remembered from 15 years ago in Fullerton CA. There's a good story on this involving a shooting and jail time. Once I have more of it, I'll pass it along. | ||
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| Beal |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127 Location: 6 String Ranch | Paul, I gave you a hard time about Mediums?? They do sound better but I don't use them either. I like the lites, the Adamas 1818 set (I haven't run out yet!) The Phosphor Bronze sound the best too, in my twisted opinion. In talking to the guys at National they are saying that lites don't really make much of a difference (detract any) on their tricones. I had always heard that Nationals needed mediums to drive the cones properly. I have had a few really old Martins that I used the Xtra lites on. They sounded good and were alot less prone to caving in on themselves. | ||
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| moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15680 Location: SoCal | Bill, in my line of work I don't consider that somebody's given me a hard time unless they are actively taking a swing at me. You were only teasing about the mediums. Now that I've gone back to medium gauge strings and picks, I don't think I could go back to light gauge. I just like the fuller sound. | ||
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| Beal |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127 Location: 6 String Ranch | Actually I've gone back to medium picks from heavys. Since they bend easier it makes me pay closer attention to what I'm playing. My dog tells me I should do that anyway. The only heavy picks I use are the ones with stems for ball marks on the golf course. Dunlop makes them. | ||
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| Jiminos |
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Joined: April 2002 Posts: 196 Location: Shelton, Washington, USA | yeah.... but can ya play a guitar with 'em? | ||
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| Beal |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127 Location: 6 String Ranch | They work great. Slam the stem through your thumb so it won't slip out of your hand and you can play banjer all night long. | ||
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| alpep |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10583 Location: NJ | cwk your dog tells you what to do? Was your last name berkowitz at some point? btw I went to a doctor one time named David Berkowitz and I was the only person who broke his stones about it . | ||
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| Bailey |
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Joined: May 2002 Posts: 3005 Location: Las Cruces, NM | cwktwo You just slightly wrong here. Banjo players use those roofing nails that you recommended to keep a roundback from sliding off the lap. They use them on both hands. Banjo players don't have to worry about string gauge, They use five of whatever the other guys have to spare. No dog would ever own a banjo player. I hope those guys coming up my driveway carrying torches and pitchforks aren't what I think, but they seem to be playing foggy mountain breakdown in march tempo. Bailey Ps I've got some 20 year old Gibson flat wounds that I would sell for somebody who doesn't want their guitar to produce sound. [ June 27, 2002: Message edited by: Bailey ] [ June 27, 2002: Message edited by: Bailey ] | ||
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| Beal |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127 Location: 6 String Ranch | The dog and I have some very meaningful discussions. When we seriously disagree on something I'll practice my slide playing on a lap National. The dog runs to her bed and puts both paws over the ears. Must be trying to tell me something???? | ||
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| OGL1 |
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Joined: June 2002 Posts: 123 Location: Pensacola,FL | Everybody makes fun of the "banjo players", but how many out there secretly have one of those 6-string Deerings hiding in a closet and play it when no one is around? Deering got his idea for the "banjar"/6string banjo (that actually sounded 'good') from Glen Cambell :D Check it out here. | ||
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| alpep |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10583 Location: NJ | I wouild like to publicly go on record and say that I hate Bela Fleck and although I appreciate his talent just don;t get it. | ||
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| Paul Templeman |
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 5750 Location: Scotland | Sounds like a cue for some more Banjo jokes.............like, what's the difference between a banjo & a chainsaw? A chainsaw has a nicer tone & a wider dynamic range. Any more? Accordian players & bass players are also fair game. Apparantly the banjo is the only indigenous American instrument. What made you guys think that putting strings on a drum was a good idea? Paul [ June 27, 2002: Message edited by: Paul Templeman ] | ||
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| Jiminos |
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Joined: April 2002 Posts: 196 Location: Shelton, Washington, USA | difference between banjoes and accordians?..... banjoes light quicker, but accordians burn longer. | ||
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| cliff |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842 Location: NJ | What do you do when there's a bass player at your door? Pay him for the pizza. .............................................. What's the differnce between a vacuum and a bass player? When you unplug the vacuum it stops sucking. | ||
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| Bailey |
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Joined: May 2002 Posts: 3005 Location: Las Cruces, NM | OGL1 Really interesting posting, and also currently relevant! The Australian country player who introduces all the Glen Campbell videos, I think his name is Keith Urban, played a six string banjo flat picking style, on CMT's Flameworthy show. Very good banjo roll sound, I can't recall the song he played, but he just preceded Earl Scruggs and friends playing their award winning Foggy Mountain Breakdown. Now isn't that chutzpah, or had his mind been destroyed by that extra string on his banjo. I played in a band in CA with a flat picking banjo player (an exceptional guitar player) and he could hold his own with anybody. He started working with finger picks and I think he lost some momentum. We played bluegrass at his outdoor wedding at the park where our club jammed.We all learned some breaks on Ode to Joy and did an extended version, followed by a super tempo Banjo Breakdown at the finish of the "I do's". One of our other banjo players could read music and was a classical music scholar in his real life. Thats the first time I've seen anything about six string banjos, great information! Bailey | ||
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| Bailey |
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Joined: May 2002 Posts: 3005 Location: Las Cruces, NM | Paul I think it was an attempt to imitate the people who attached flutes to a blacksmith's bellows and marched in skirts. Only all we had was drums and strings. We did steal a lot of their good music, and play it to this day on our indigenous instruments. Bailey | ||
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| OGL1 |
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Joined: June 2002 Posts: 123 Location: Pensacola,FL | Bailey Thanks for your reply. As a luthier (my Hobby) I can appreciate ALL the stringed instruments. And to be honest, I fixem better than I play'em. At one time I was a member of the CBA[CA], then moved and became a member of the ABA [AZ], moved again and now a member of the GCBMA [FL]. I enjoy all types of music, but Bluegrass - "High Lonesome" to "Nickel Creek" is my favorite (must have something to do with that very first stereo Hi-Fi record I heard as a kid -Starday label *Bluegrass Special*). Before I was forced to retire (damned LUPUS anyway!) I worked in a high tech composites company that made everything from graphite wheelchairs to parts for the Space Shuttle, so I have a great interest in Ovations and how they are made. (Made me a graphite guitar once - acoustic/totally hollow inside including the neck - only piece of wood in it was inside the peghead{had to have something to screw the tuners to:-} it sounded great, AND you could row a boat with it or carry water in it). I digress... Back to what I was saying...oh yeah... Thanks for the reply :) | ||
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| Beal |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127 Location: 6 String Ranch | And the difference between a banjo and an onion? You don't cry cutting up a banjo And there was this guy, got on the plane in First class and looked really nervous. The flight attendant asked if he'd like a drink and he accepted, bourbon double please. He slams it and asks for another. She brings it and he does the same. He sits quietly for a minute but is really nervous and starting to sweat. The flight attendant gets the purser who comes up to the guy and asks what's wrong? This poor guy is really shaking now and stands up, reaching in his pocket he pulls out a set of thumb and finger picks and hands them to the purser and says, "Could you hold these for me till we land. I play pedal steel guitar and I'm afraid the plane might go down. When they find my body they'll find those in the pocket and think I'm a banjo player. | ||
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| moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15680 Location: SoCal | I just read Paul's message above and he's right. The banjo is the only instrument invented here in the U.S. by our fore fathers. It amazed all four of them. | ||
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Medium gauge strings