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Patch
Posted 2008-09-30 11:24 AM (#18389)
Subject: Someone asking for stage guitar recommendations on the AGF



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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent		Guess which brand I recommended. :rolleyes:

Stage guitar question
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cliff
Posted 2008-09-30 11:32 AM (#18390 - in reply to #18389)
Subject: Re: Someone asking for stage guitar recommendations on the AGF


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Location: NJ		eh! . . y'made me "LOOK", Patch!!

Everytime I venture onto that Board, I feel like a Jew in the Vatican . . .
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BT717
Posted 2008-09-30 11:33 AM (#18391 - in reply to #18389)
Subject: Re: Someone asking for stage guitar recommendations on the AGF


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Location: Vernon CT		Just thru in my 2 cents!!!! :D
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G8r
Posted 2008-09-30 11:49 AM (#18392 - in reply to #18389)
Subject: Re: Someone asking for stage guitar recommendations on the AGF


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Originally posted by cliff:
Everytime I venture onto that Board, I feel like a Jew in the Vatican . . .
BEST LINE OF THE YEAR
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2008-09-30 12:12 PM (#18393 - in reply to #18389)
Subject: Re: Someone asking for stage guitar recommendations on the AGF


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Originally posted by cliff:
Everytime I venture onto that Board, I feel like a Jew in the Vatican . . . [/QB]
Oiy Vay :rolleyes:
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Patch
Posted 2008-09-30 12:28 PM (#18394 - in reply to #18389)
Subject: Re: Someone asking for stage guitar recommendations on the AGF



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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent		Here's a quote from the thread.

Patch, Really? Why do 99% of live stage guitarists that are touring NOT use them? (Ovations) Seriously, other than DiMeola, Reed, and Glenn Campbell, I've never seen a serious guitarist play one live. Am I in the dark on this one? I'm happy to be wrong, but other than the amateurs in the local venues, I don't see them played live.

It really cranks my chain that only Ovation owners have to justify their preference in instruments.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2008-09-30 12:37 PM (#18395 - in reply to #18389)
Subject: Re: Someone asking for stage guitar recommendations on the AGF


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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains		A Jew from Jersey? Naaaawww!
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Slipkid
Posted 2008-09-30 12:38 PM (#18396 - in reply to #18389)
Subject: Re: Someone asking for stage guitar recommendations on the AGF



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Location: south east Michigan		At least we don't have drdavidhartman to kick around anymore.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-09-30 12:39 PM (#18397 - in reply to #18389)
Subject: Re: Someone asking for stage guitar recommendations on the AGF


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Location: SoCal		I am sooooo tempted to post that I've never played or heard an Ovation but I know they're crap....
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2008-09-30 12:45 PM (#18398 - in reply to #18389)
Subject: Re: Someone asking for stage guitar recommendations on the AGF


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Originally posted by cliff:
eh! . . y'made me "LOOK", Patch!!

Everytime I venture onto that Board, I feel like a Jew in the Vatican . . .
Happy New Year!
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Waskel
Posted 2008-09-30 12:45 PM (#18399 - in reply to #18389)
Subject: Re: Someone asking for stage guitar recommendations on the AGF



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Location: closely held secret		Patch, just mention Ray Davies and Dave Gilmour for starters...
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cliff
Posted 2008-09-30 12:48 PM (#18400 - in reply to #18389)
Subject: Re: Someone asking for stage guitar recommendations on the AGF


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Location: NJ		'cept for one song, Gilmour uses either Taylor/Gibson . . .
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cliff
Posted 2008-09-30 12:56 PM (#18401 - in reply to #18389)
Subject: Re: Someone asking for stage guitar recommendations on the AGF


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Location: NJ		Just go back and rescind your initial suggestion.

Apologize, and tell them that you mistakenly assumed that the intial request pertained to someone who would be
playing live ABOVE the fifth fret.


TaylorWankers . . .
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Patch
Posted 2008-09-30 1:00 PM (#18402 - in reply to #18389)
Subject: Re: Someone asking for stage guitar recommendations on the AGF



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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent		Everyone here knows as well as I do that it has less to do with the quality of an instrument when it comes to professional use than it does with marketing and sponsorship. The only pros who use Ovations are the ones who actually prefer them onstage better than the other options, as opposed to playing them because their endorsement deal says so.

Of course, if I say that over there, I'd probably be banned for trolling. :rolleyes:
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Damon67
Posted 2008-09-30 1:17 PM (#18403 - in reply to #18389)
Subject: Re: Someone asking for stage guitar recommendations on the AGF



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Location: Jet City		I haven't clicked on the thread so I don't know what's been suggested.

I sure hope someone suggested a Taylor. Those are really great guitars.
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Damon67
Posted 2008-09-30 1:30 PM (#18404 - in reply to #18389)
Subject: Re: Someone asking for stage guitar recommendations on the AGF



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Location: Jet City		OK, I went in there. I posted my opinion.

I didn't suggest an Ovation or Adamas though.
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Patch
Posted 2008-09-30 1:40 PM (#18405 - in reply to #18389)
Subject: Re: Someone asking for stage guitar recommendations on the AGF



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Originally posted by Damon67:
OK, I went in there. I posted my opinion.
That's what the thread author asked for. :cool:
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2008-09-30 1:47 PM (#18406 - in reply to #18389)
Subject: Re: Someone asking for stage guitar recommendations on the AGF



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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains		Just a silly question . . . what difference does it make what they think or do on the other forum? We're here for our enjoyment, not theirs. They're over there for their enjoyment, not ours. And a silly suggestion . . . if they disagree with our responses and suggestions, and we're offended when they do so, why offer them?
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Patch
Posted 2008-09-30 2:06 PM (#18407 - in reply to #18389)
Subject: Re: Someone asking for stage guitar recommendations on the AGF



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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent		There are quite a few Ovation players over there Professor. And I figure I have as much to say about my acoustic guitar of choice as anyone else over there. Besides, the social worker in me can't seem to stay out of conversations like that one. It's the classic underdog scenario. ;)
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Damon67
Posted 2008-09-30 2:50 PM (#18408 - in reply to #18389)
Subject: Re: Someone asking for stage guitar recommendations on the AGF



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Location: Jet City		I didn't notice the second page at first and didn't see the big rip on Ovations.

I just posted another comment now.

Oh and Brad, I do it for the sheer hell of it.
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Beal
Posted 2008-09-30 3:17 PM (#18409 - in reply to #18389)
Subject: Re: Someone asking for stage guitar recommendations on the AGF



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Location: 6 String Ranch		I tried to give him a pretty straight answer.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2008-09-30 3:30 PM (#18410 - in reply to #18389)
Subject: Re: Someone asking for stage guitar recommendations on the AGF



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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains		Understood, Patch. You young guys can take up the cause. At my age, I need to save my energy for the battles that mean something to me personally.
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cliff
Posted 2008-09-30 3:41 PM (#18411 - in reply to #18389)
Subject: Re: Someone asking for stage guitar recommendations on the AGF


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Location: NJ		TaylorWankers . . .
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Damon67
Posted 2008-09-30 3:44 PM (#18412 - in reply to #18389)
Subject: Re: Someone asking for stage guitar recommendations on the AGF



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Originally posted by Mauvais Beal:
I tried to give him a pretty straight answer.
Nice, I suggested a cooltube Tak, then saw all the O bashing and started to retaliate for the fun of it.

Funny, there were several guitar brands mentioned, but the mention of Ovation was the only that created hostility. Nobody said "Well nobody plays Yamaha guitars professionally"

What a silly forum.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2008-09-30 3:46 PM (#18413 - in reply to #18389)
Subject: Re: Someone asking for stage guitar recommendations on the AGF


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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest		AGF is just one of the many misrepresented sites on the web. They can swear on a stack of bibles that they are "for those who love acoustic guitars, and is not related to or affiliated with any manufacturer" but the big bold statement on their homepage "Formerly the Taylor Guitar Forum - Welcome to the Acoustic Guitar Forum!" sais it all.

This is not a unique syndrome. Much like V-Twin Forums would elude to being about all V-Twin model motorcycles (BMW, Ducati, Honda, Victory, Moto Guzzi, Harley etc..) it in fact.. is "a website dedicated to all things Harley Davidson" with the "and V-Twin" in there just so they can talk about Harley clones too.

I have thought many times about posting over there, but to what end. In general a square wooden box with strings on it, it going to sound like a square wooden box with strings on it. Occasionally someone comes up with just the right design of the square wooden box that sounds pretty good, but it's usually pretty expensive and very delicate. On an even more rare occasion one will come along that not only sounds like a musical instrument, but enables the player to use all of the frets up the fretboard with equal tone and playability. They are usually VERY expensive and even more rare.

The original stringed instruments (ones when they first started using fretboards at least) had ROUND BACKS!!! There was a reason. This was the late 1500's and Early 1600's.


Ovation, in good'ol Yankee Fashion applied modern technology to proven tradition. Square wood boxes with strings are just a cheap knock-offs of an idea that started around 3000 B.C. !!! and even they had a round back!!


Here's a link to some 1500\'s Round Backs

The modern Classical Guitar happened around the 1800\'s it seems.

Thankfully a resourceful man in CT named Charlie found a way to bring those early traditions into the modern age. It's too bad some just still don't get it, but at least they have the AGF to console each other.
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