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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Watched Life and Times of Billy Ray Cyrus on CMT and he was playing a left handed (sinister from the latin for left handed) Ovation elite I think, also I think I saw a brief shot of him playing a legend. Billy Ray seems to be a pretty good country musician and maybe misunderstood about Achey Breakey, I think none of us would turn down a hit of that magnitude on the basis of tradition. |
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Location: Scotland | Anybody with a haircut like Billy Ray's deserves a slow death, the "music" he has inflicted on the innocent is another matter. |
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Location: NJ | amen! |
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Location: Back in the Valley of the Sun Mesa Az. | lol! God does have a sense of humor! Giving all that hair to someone who hasn't a clue what to do with it....and leaving old Norseman looking like a tibeten monk!!!
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Sounds like nobody here went out and learned the Achey Breakey! |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | You people are so cruel saying all these mean things about Silly Gay Virus and his hair. |
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Location: Everett, Wa | Silly Gay Virus!!! Can't wait to use that one the next time my wife makes me watch another episode of "Doc"!! I'll let you know where and how hard she hits me!!! |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | I'm still trying to figure out what part of Billy Ray is "Country" other than Achey Breaky. Same for Shania and even Hank Williams Jr. Oh yeah, their "hits" maybe country, but any concert footage I've seen, or anyone I've talked to whos been to a concert, they put on better rock shows than most of the lame Rock acts out there. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Miles, you hit the nail on the head on that statement! The other side is that if you're looking for country you still gotta keep looking. |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Dubyatoo
If you're looking for country, I can't find it at CMT or any country station on my radio. Country Stars today are weak imitations of rock stars, I saw Willie and friends tonight and Stones star, Mr Richards, played some guitar that would say if you want rock play rock. Somebody please tell me where country is today. I've seen Keith Richards on a Chuck Berry video and on the Willie Nelson and friends and he plays some good guitar.
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Location: NJ | try the o brother where art thou tour and cd |
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Location: NJ | My roadcase wears (among other things) a bumper sticker that reads:
"Discourage In-Breeding.......Ban Country Music" |
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Location: puerto vallarta, mexico | i started laughing just at the mention of "oh brother where art thou". that was one funny movie. a bunch of us local musicians watched it one afternoon instead of practice and now if someone screws up on stage someone makes makes a delbert comment, like. "if'n you dont get into the got damn groove delbert, the're a gonna run us plum O F T, oft the stage". |
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Location: Scotland | The CMT/Nashville, corporate big hat/no talent stuff makes me vomit. There's lots of real Country music around, it just doesn't sell enough to get on mainstream TV or radio, without which it doesn't sell ... classic catch 22. Try Dale Watson, Wayne Hancock, Steve Earle, Junior Brown, Lucinda Williams, Rodney Crowell, Guy Clark, the Riptones, the Derailers, Chris Wall, etc etc. |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Paul T
You're reading my mind, you just listed the people who today have talent rather than promotion. There is no country music today on CMT, just insipid rock without the drive of a Jerry Lee or the hell who cares of a Joe Ely, all around us giants are dying, and CMT goes their their blathering way. |
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Location: SoCal | This country music "who is and isn't" goes back to the 60's when Chet Atkins ran RCA in Nashville and developed the Nashville sound. It wasn't country, but it did sell, and that's what they had to do to keep their jobs.
In the early 70's, along came outlaw country with Willia, Waylon, and the boys. The people Paul T mentioned, followed in their footsteps. I was in Austin TX at that time, and hearing people like Guy Clark and Jerry Jeff Walker (when he was sober) wasa lot of fun.
But that brings up the question of what is country? It's so much a mix of blues and jazz and other things thrown in that it's hard to define.
I just know that what I hear on the radio is much more rock and roll than country. |
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Location: NJ | A lot of it could also be attributed to the influx of late 60's/early 70's bands like The Flying Burritos, Poco, NRPS, Pure Prairie League and what their descendants evolved into.
"Goddam Hippies in Cowboy Hats!" |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | I guess I just miss the day of when Radio stations were either Music or News. It's still prety much that way in many parts of Europe. MTV Europe actually promotes LOCAL BANDS!!!!! The "industry" didn't always pidgeon-hole music. I gots to give props to Mutt Lang for what he did with Shania (musically... behave folks). Here is one of the Producer Kings of the hairband era. So he has this wife that with big hair... hmmm Lets just CALL IT country and sell it in Nashville... And again.. I mention Hank Jr. He lives eats and breaths... like a rock star (or at least he used to)
On the other side of the coin is my favorite band.. Blue Oyster Cult. They have always had the label "Heavy Metal." They have had a couple of heavier songs over the years... but the first real metal from them I think came a couple years ago on "Heaven Forbid." Currently Metalica covers one of their older songs "Astronomy" and plays it heavier than BOC ever did. If you ever listen to "Mirrors" from BOC, "In Thee" "Your Not the One" and "Lonely Teardrops" are as about lite 80's pop as you can get. But still they have the label as one of the first... if not the first.. Heavy Metal band... because that's what the promoters told us. |
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Location: puerto vallarta, mexico | hola paul "pi",
when we lived in santa fe we went to see jerry jeff at the line camp twice , or, well, that was the intention. first time he got hung up in traffic (at another local bar), and the second time he arrived a couple of hours late, zig zagged his way to the stage and then managed some pretty good "country" in a condition i am sure would prevent me from even knowing which side of the guitar to play. he set the guitar down between sets and forgot the stage was higher than the floor and added a little acrobatics to the show. he sucked down plenty of bourbon and branch and hit it again and again, true to the words he sang. a real "desperado waiting for a train.
my twin nephews grew up in wimberly and have played fiddle since they were 4. they played with willie and waylon in lukenbach before they were in highschool and were often invited to lady bird johnson's parties to wow the crowd. i remember one occasion at gruene hall where they played a set with bad livers and knocked down over $200 for 4 songs when the pitcher was passed. they were 12 then. they are still in austin playing the real stuff. VIVA AUSTIN AND IT'S MUSIC SCENE!! |
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Location: Scotland | Cliff, "Goddam Hippies in Cowboy Hats!" were the saviours of country music, which had pretty much turned into sentimental hokum in the late 60''s, (thanks mostly to Chet, as Paul M pointed out) The guys you mentioned, along with the likes of Dillard & Clark, Gram Parsons and especially Michael Nesmith, created a whole new genre of music. Their concept of "Country Rock" is poles apart from the lame "3rd-rate AOR with a steel guitar" currently masquerading as Country music. The 70's Country Rock pioneers used classic country as a benchmark. The likes of Garth Brooks, Mark Chesnut & Silly Gay Virus (priceless CWK, priceless!!!) haven't even heard of Buck Owens, Merle Haggard or George Jones & aren't fit to shine their shoes.
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | At this point, the Byrds might be mentioned, followed by the country influence on CSN&Y as revealed on Deja Vu (which I have in vinyl) to the "Circle" album by the Dirt Band and Steve Goodman's "City of New Orleans" by everybody including me, Dylan's songs by everybody and Mr. Bojangles, early Eagles and late Eagles, Flying Burrito Brothers and Kristofferson. Does modern country reflect any of these influences, and Mickey Newbury's "Frisco Mabel Joy" with the song American Trilogy who just died a few weeks ago, he wrote Jerry Lee's "She Even Woke Me Up to Say Goodbye", Rodney Crowell's "Stars On The Water", "Till I can Gain Control Again", Billy Joe Shaver's whole album of "Honkey Tonk Heroes", and "Old Five And Dimers", and "I wouldn't Be Me Without You". Joe Ely's album "Letters From Laredo", and of course Emmy Lou's great albums or I guess today, CDs. Kenny Rogers is in there also but his contribution is not settled yet.
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Location: Scotland | Kenny Rogers!!!!!!!!!???????????????? Bailey, please!! That was a very lucid disscusion up to that point. At least he played an Ovation. If anyone fancies a laugh at Kenny's expense check this out
http://www.menwholooklikekennyrogers.com/
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Location: NJ | LOL!!!!
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Where do you find these wonderful websites?!?!?! |
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| Forget country...............it's dead in the true sense of the word................it needs a new label.............like big city overproduced wanna- be redneck pop..................Bluegrass is where it's at, and it is alive and well right here in good old Louisville ,KY.,...............I invite all of you skeptics down to the Dew Drop Inn any wed., night around 7pm.
and as far as the myth about Hank Jr., or Billy Gay, or even mecca man himself Barf Brooks........putting on a better rock show than current rock acts.?????? please!...........I strongly advise seeing Queens of the Stoneage.....and Joshe Homme get on with the getdown on his Ovation ultra Gp.
pe-auce,
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Location: Scotland | The corporate Nashville/CMT pap that purports to be Country should be dead but unfortunately isn't. Real Country Music, & I would include Bluegrass with that, has never been healthier, you just have to work a little harder to get to hear it.
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Billy Ray Cyrus playing sinister Ovation
