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Hard Economic Times and Guitar Purchases

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bauerhillboy
Posted 2008-10-08 10:10 AM (#17327)
Subject: Hard Economic Times and Guitar Purchases


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Location: Warren,Pa.
I was just listening to a report on NPR, and the last comment was "people are confining their purchasing to the essentials and looking for bargains."

Has your guitar buying been put on hold in favor of more essential items...or just being afraid to spend.
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alpep
Posted 2008-10-08 10:17 AM (#17328 - in reply to #17327)
Subject: Re: Hard Economic Times and Guitar Purchases


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Location: NJ
you really want to go there?
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AussieJames
Posted 2008-10-08 10:22 AM (#17329 - in reply to #17327)
Subject: Re: Hard Economic Times and Guitar Purchases



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Location: Brisbane Australia
Well the fact that the Aussie dollar against the Greenback has gone from 97c in July when I was over there to 70c now has sure slowed me up.
:rolleyes:

AJ
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Beal
Posted 2008-10-08 10:24 AM (#17330 - in reply to #17327)
Subject: Re: Hard Economic Times and Guitar Purchases



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Location: 6 String Ranch
I've only bought four in the last month

How about you TJ?
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2008-10-08 10:35 AM (#17331 - in reply to #17327)
Subject: Re: Hard Economic Times and Guitar Purchases


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Location: Marlton, NJ
One in... One out.
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MWoody
Posted 2008-10-08 10:48 AM (#17332 - in reply to #17327)
Subject: Re: Hard Economic Times and Guitar Purchases



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Location: Upper Left USA
Better decisions I have made over the last 2 years:

- Stopped looking at my Retirement Fund
- Chose not to sell our 2600 SqFt home with the $1100 mortgage and removed all debt except the equity loan, then remodeled the vital living areas and such. We increased livability and and our equity.
- Focused my Bottom Feeding on projects I could actually sell for more than what I paid!
- Focused on buying unique and highly sought after instruments, which included a new one from Mr. Big.

Oh yeah, starting taking meds so I can actually FINISH something I have started...
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AussieJames
Posted 2008-10-08 10:52 AM (#17333 - in reply to #17327)
Subject: Re: Hard Economic Times and Guitar Purchases



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Location: Brisbane Australia
Syrah?? :D
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-10-08 11:02 AM (#17334 - in reply to #17327)
Subject: Re: Hard Economic Times and Guitar Purchases


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Location: Boise, Idaho
The only reason I slowed down is that my list is getting smaller. It was easy after 25 years between guitars to find several that I thought I had to have. Some I didn't need and the OFC and Koa weren't on the list when I started.
I've also decided that there are some, like the 97 and 01 Collectors, that will come up from time to time and I need to have patience.
If I retired early, I probably wouldn't feel like I could afford more guitars. If I wait a few more years, maybe I can afford some or maybe I'll have to try to sell some. The prices right now are such that it seems like a good time to buy.
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an4340
Posted 2008-10-08 11:14 AM (#17335 - in reply to #17327)
Subject: Re: Hard Economic Times and Guitar Purchases


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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands
The good news is, that most of us have guitars and can play them. For example, we had a friend over last weekend, we didn't go out, just cooped up, and for entertainment sang. I guess it's like the depression days. But I've been living like this since I was born.

So I'd have to say, no, the economic times haven't affected me at all.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-10-08 12:11 PM (#17336 - in reply to #17327)
Subject: Re: Hard Economic Times and Guitar Purchases


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Location: Scotland
I speaking as a music retailer rather than a consumer here. My business turnover is (just) within target, but there's been zero growth for 3 months and my average sale value has dropped by about 40%. We're selling lots of lower priced items, so while the turnover is steady we're having to do more work to service it. I can live with that, it could be worse. I know a lot of people in music instrument retail and distribution over here who are seriously concerned about their livelihoods.
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BT717
Posted 2008-10-08 12:11 PM (#17337 - in reply to #17327)
Subject: Re: Hard Economic Times and Guitar Purchases


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Location: Vernon CT
Started with 8 guitars at the beginning of 08.
Down to 4! I only DREAM about new/More Guitars!
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-10-08 12:15 PM (#17338 - in reply to #17327)
Subject: Re: Hard Economic Times and Guitar Purchases


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The last new guitar I bought was the OFC guitar. I did price out the building of a custom guitar, but I can't really justify spending what it would cost. Now I'm thinking of sending an old guitar back to the factory for a new body. I'll probably do that, but even then, I may sell something to finance most of it.

Things could be worse. I've got one friend who's a stock broker, who not only has to deal with his clients, but his father in law is dying. Another friend just had (for the 2nd time in 2 months) a knee replacement surgery, and 2 days ago, his wife's grandmother, at their home, died.

Trust me, I'm counting my blessings......
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2008-10-08 12:21 PM (#17339 - in reply to #17327)
Subject: Re: Hard Economic Times and Guitar Purchases


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Location: Hot Springs, S.D.
It's crazy. September was my second best month in the two and one half years I've been in business. That's why I was able to spend a thousand dollars for that classical. (Maybe I shouldn't have.) Maybe people were buying in droves because they're afraid if they don't get it now, they won't be able to soon. I, like Paul, have been concentrating on lower-end items. This being a tourist economy, high-end items sell better in summer, low-end in winter. I am hoping for a good Christmas season, but if business is slow I'll hang in there and wait for better times.
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Charlie Ramon
Posted 2008-10-08 12:26 PM (#17340 - in reply to #17327)
Subject: Re: Hard Economic Times and Guitar Purchases


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Location: Germany
My strategy is to buy as many guitars I can. So if we are going into a currency devaluation I will still own my guitars. I got a nice Adamas 1689 (from 1981) last week. I'm quite sure I will get back what I invested if I should sell it in five or ten years. Do you know what you will get back from your financial investment or your money in your bank account?

Karl
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-10-08 12:31 PM (#17341 - in reply to #17327)
Subject: Re: Hard Economic Times and Guitar Purchases


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Originally posted by Mauvais Beal:
I've only bought four in the last month

How about you TJ?
Mom,...Beal's pickin' on me!!
Let's see.... 2 I think and two sets of drums. Just the essential stuff. Oh yeah, I did pick one up for Gway last night, does that count?
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Capo Guy
Posted 2008-10-08 12:37 PM (#17342 - in reply to #17327)
Subject: Re: Hard Economic Times and Guitar Purchases



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Location: East Tennessee
Jim,

What did you get?? We want pics,(also we need the check on the Palm tree).
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2008-10-08 12:42 PM (#17343 - in reply to #17327)
Subject: Re: Hard Economic Times and Guitar Purchases


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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest
Just hoping to sell this and/or this so I can pay my property tax and take care of a few other things. :(
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JeffreyD
Posted 2008-10-08 12:44 PM (#17344 - in reply to #17327)
Subject: Re: Hard Economic Times and Guitar Purchases


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Location: East Wenatchee, WA
As I told my wife....

Our retirement has gone from a 40' Diesel pusher to a 1974 Winnebago 24'.

I splurged and bought the 2008C, but it was under the assumption that the 2080 was going away, which it has not. I quite looking at retirement, don't incur debt (except my house which I just shortened the maturity to 15 years at 5%), and maintain enough cash reserves to keep me going should I lose my job.

I suspect that the 2008C and 1537 will be my final AE guitars, and I have had no desire for another bass (Carvin LB75 in solid walnut) or electric (Carvin DC400P). I bought a Tascam 2488 a few years ago and a Bose L1, so my recording/PA is set.....I am pretty much set up to be a snowbird if that is what needs to happen, and Motorhomes are quite the bargain right now, so let the chips fall.
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FlySig
Posted 2008-10-08 12:50 PM (#17345 - in reply to #17327)
Subject: Re: Hard Economic Times and Guitar Purchases



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I'm with Karl on the devaluation/inflation thing. I've made a few purchases in the last month that I had been planning on putting off. Some music equipment, some other. If we are going into a period of inflation, and I believe we will see very significant inflation, then my current dollars are worth more by spending them today than by putting them in the bank.

I'm not going nuts with spending, just buying stuff that I would normally have waited months or longer to buy.
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bvince
Posted 2008-10-08 2:29 PM (#17346 - in reply to #17327)
Subject: Re: Hard Economic Times and Guitar Purchases



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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :)
I'm Happy with what I have right now. Of course that could change in a day. I am doing the one out one in thing also now.
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Damon67
Posted 2008-10-08 2:50 PM (#17347 - in reply to #17327)
Subject: Re: Hard Economic Times and Guitar Purchases



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Location: Jet City
Well, I do have plenty to play, but I still have wants, and in this economy, well, let's just say they're remaining wants for now.

It's really sad how much of a difference a few months can make. June was really the turn around for me. Aside from the economy, my main customer is in the middle of a big strike (Boeing), and I've seen an 80% drop off in new business this year over last.

Sucks, cuz there's a few of you out there with guitars I want.

Miles yours is definitely one of them.

And a FD-14 is up now too. Double Dammit!
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-10-08 3:08 PM (#17348 - in reply to #17327)
Subject: Re: Hard Economic Times and Guitar Purchases



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CS and Temp mentioned that as "music retailers" their sales of lower-end items have been steady...
I may attribute some of that to hard economic realities, sorta.
"Guitars will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no guitar..."
My attitude about guitars-as-investments is that I can play my guitars for awhile before I have to sell them.
And I now I have them, even though times are hard I 'Got Guitar'!
Knowing of my impending unemployment, I still bought two brand-new T's and two new electrics.
If times get Real hard, they are each worth at least a month's rent.

I've said it before... If you've got the money, now is the time to be buying!
[I also still have guitars that I Should Sell, but I just cannot bring myself to do it.]
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-10-08 3:12 PM (#17349 - in reply to #17327)
Subject: Re: Hard Economic Times and Guitar Purchases


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I just had a talk with my wife. She said to send the guitar back to the factory, but that I couldn't sell a guitar. The guitar I was thinking about selling is a Preacher 12. My wife said that I couldn't sell it because it was hers (that what's yours is mine bit, I think).

I'm pretty certain that my wife is unique.....
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Waskel
Posted 2008-10-08 3:19 PM (#17350 - in reply to #17327)
Subject: Re: Hard Economic Times and Guitar Purchases



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Location: closely held secret
...well, she did marry you. That right there makes her somewhat of an anomaly. A very sweet and kind one, to be sure... but still.
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sonofapreacherman1987
Posted 2008-10-08 3:24 PM (#17351 - in reply to #17327)
Subject: Re: Hard Economic Times and Guitar Purchases


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Location: florida
i just bought a viper on the bay for about 500 dollars and now i am looking to get a new amp for it, so i guess it hasnt really slowed me down too much, i never have been a big guitar collector though, i play what i buy, so i really only have two...well now three guitars.
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