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Paul Wag
Posted 2003-06-19 5:20 PM (#207744)
Subject: Slide Guitar?


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Any slide guitar enthusiats out there?

I had some credit from String This and was trying to get my dollars up to the credit I was owed so I ordered a "Delta Slider" bottelneck slide.

When my order arrived I tuned my Legend to an open E and started messing around - I was really amazed that I actually got some great slide sounds going.

I had a metal slide around for years (not sure where it even came from) and never liked the sound, thought it was my lack of slide playing skills. The "Delta Slider" is a real bottleneck from recycled glass (so the web site says) and each one is supposed to be tried out by the guy that makes them.

Anyway, sounds good - think I'll take the old Celebrity and raise the action some and see how that sounds.....
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alpep
Posted 2003-06-19 6:03 PM (#207745 - in reply to #207744)
Subject: Re: Slide Guitar?


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I used to use an old socket wrench. wonder where that is...
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ceres
Posted 2003-06-19 7:04 PM (#207746 - in reply to #207744)
Subject: Re: Slide Guitar?


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I bought the Doors DVD, Soundstage Perfromances recently and noticed the very strange slide Robbie Krieger was using. I couldn't make it out as there were no close shots of his fret hand. Later in the interview section, he explained his habit of using a freshly broken wine bottle neck. Ray Manzarek quipped the only problem was Robbie usually drank the wine first.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2003-06-19 8:13 PM (#207747 - in reply to #207744)
Subject: Re: Slide Guitar?


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There's nothing strange about using wine bottle necks, it's been the slide of choice for countless bluesmen since the early '20's. A popular bottle for breaking the neck off is Mateus Rose, but personaly I prefer wine a lot drier. Alternatively you could email Matt Smith and buy one of his hand-blown glass slides, they're the best. I've used the same custom-made nickel-plated, internal-taper brass slide for nearly 20 years, and coudn't find anything that I liked the feel & sound of as much. I got one of Matt's slides at the OFC tour ( every one is unique, hand-made, individually signed & numbered) The side walls are very thick, so they produce a very fat tone with great sustain for a glass slide, and they look really cool. I still use my old brass slide for electric, but for acoustic & 6-string lap-steel Matt's slides are incredible.
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Paul Wag
Posted 2003-06-19 9:31 PM (#207748 - in reply to #207744)
Subject: Re: Slide Guitar?


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Wow, I didn't know Matt made slides. I have my "Delta Slider" right here and sure enough it's a wine bottle neck (can tell by the top part), and I noticed right off the bat that one side is thicker than the other. Which I've then noticed having the thicker side on the strings sounds better.
I was trying it out earlier tonight, lot's of fun...
Gotta watch out for it flying off my finger :rolleyes:
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Bailey
Posted 2003-06-20 1:37 AM (#207749 - in reply to #207744)
Subject: Re: Slide Guitar?


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My first attempt at playing in public was as a lap steel player in the late 40's and early 50's copying the Hank Snow, Hank Williams sound. All I had was a Chrome slide that weighed a pound and a Mel Bay Technique book, tuning was OPEN E.

Bailey
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2003-06-20 3:50 AM (#207750 - in reply to #207744)
Subject: Re: Slide Guitar?


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Matt doesn't actually make them. If I remember correctly he told me they are made by a woman in Conneticut. She puts pigment into the molten glass so when the slide is blown the colours take on various wierd & wonderful shapes. The original one I got from Matt had screaming faces in it. Some guy at a gig last Wednesday came up to me during a break an asked about my slides. I showed him my unique one-of-a-kind Matt Smith slide, he put it down on a table where it promptly rolled onto a concrete floor and shattered. Asshole didn't even apologise. Fortunately Matt had some with him at the JHS event on Monday so I got another & a spare.
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Paul Wag
Posted 2003-06-20 10:04 AM (#207751 - in reply to #207744)
Subject: Re: Slide Guitar?


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Bummer...
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cliff
Posted 2003-06-20 10:46 AM (#207752 - in reply to #207744)
Subject: Re: Slide Guitar?


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I got one of those glass slides from Matt at the OFC Tour "after party" as well, and they are KICK ASS!!
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seesquare
Posted 2003-06-20 12:10 PM (#207753 - in reply to #207744)
Subject: Re: Slide Guitar?


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FYI, if you're looking for slide afficionadoes, check out www.bigroadblues.com. The Doc has a tutorial CD on beginning slide technique, also.
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seesquare
Posted 2003-06-20 12:14 PM (#207754 - in reply to #207744)
Subject: Re: Slide Guitar?


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BTW, has Ovation ever attempted a resonator? Hey there.....Mr. Templeton.....Miles.....Al.....ANYBODY!!!......what's the verdict?
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2003-06-20 12:19 PM (#207755 - in reply to #207744)
Subject: Re: Slide Guitar?


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Go to the Links section of the club and read thru the interviews. You'll get your answer.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2003-06-20 2:20 PM (#207756 - in reply to #207744)
Subject: Re: Slide Guitar?


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Al has a unique Ovation dreadnought with an Adamas slothead neck & a Dobro resonator. A while I posted a pic of the Ovation resonator guitar which was on display at the factory. That one had a National-style biscuit cone & palm-tree soundholes. I'm looking for an Ovation classical with the top trashed, preferably cutaway. I intend to replace the top & drop in a Quarterman dobro cone
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ceres
Posted 2003-06-20 3:08 PM (#207757 - in reply to #207744)
Subject: Re: Slide Guitar?


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PT, I did not mean that using a wine bottle neck was strange, only that it was strange in appearance to me, being misshapen and colored, and not being able to tell what it was from a stand off shot. Of course, I was only born raised and lived my whole life here in the deep south so thanks for educating me on "the slide of choice for bluesmen".
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Paul Wag
Posted 2003-06-20 3:57 PM (#207758 - in reply to #207744)
Subject: Re: Slide Guitar?


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seesquare, the Big Raod Blues web site is chock full of good information. Thanks! :D
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seesquare
Posted 2003-06-20 4:11 PM (#207759 - in reply to #207744)
Subject: Re: Slide Guitar?


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Paul Wag, yer welcum! And thanks to you, P.I., for the "required" reading of Al's '94 interview with Bill Kamen. That was both educational and inspirational. Al's comment, at the closing, about "first position chords" made me squirm a bit; guess I better keep practicing! Oh yeah, Mr. Templeton, is the photo of the dobro in the Members' Gallery? All-in-all, this has been a great day on the "boards" for me!! Thanks, and THANKS!!
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2003-06-21 11:24 AM (#207760 - in reply to #207744)
Subject: Re: Slide Guitar?


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Ovation Reso

http://www.ovationfanclub.com/gallery/resonator.JPG
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cliff
Posted 2003-06-21 4:07 PM (#207761 - in reply to #207744)
Subject: Re: Slide Guitar?


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When I saw that reso on the Tour, I said to myself (well, AFTER ". . I Gotta Have THAT! . ."):
". . THAT needs to go into PRODUCTION! . ."

schweet!!!
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2003-06-21 6:00 PM (#207762 - in reply to #207744)
Subject: Re: Slide Guitar?


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That's the first pic I've seen of the reso'. What other pics from the tour are hiding out there?
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Bailey
Posted 2003-06-22 12:49 AM (#207763 - in reply to #207744)
Subject: Re: Slide Guitar?


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It appears that nobody read CWKII's response to my post when I mentioned meeting John Dopyro in Escondido, CA (one of the Dobro Bros). He revealed a deep understanding and interest in resonator guitars of all types, he failed to mention the factory display of a resonator guitar. I've tried to smoke him out a few times to see how deeply Ovation stuck their R & D foot in this pool, keep digging boys and something may surface. W-2 has admitted to owning a few of these type instruments. (THE PLOT THICKENS)
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2003-06-22 6:03 PM (#207764 - in reply to #207744)
Subject: Re: Slide Guitar?


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As I mentioned in an earlier post, our own Alpep interviewed cwkII in 1996 (?) and it was revealed that they had made several reso's but determined that there wasn't enough of a market for them to put them into production.
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Bailey
Posted 2003-06-23 1:38 AM (#207765 - in reply to #207744)
Subject: Re: Slide Guitar?


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So he just had the factory build him one or two to fool around with and now sets at home with these one offs and doesn't admit to anything. Keep the pressure on Brothers, I think there is a story here.
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cliff
Posted 2003-06-23 7:44 AM (#207766 - in reply to #207744)
Subject: Re: Slide Guitar?


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That reso had me "sold" just by the LOOKS of it!

THEN, . . .Master Templeman reaches into his pocket, pulls out a slide, and starts WAILING on it!! NICE!!!

If one or two of these showed up on TNN or CMA (or whatever you Country musoes watch), I'd bet people'd start searching these things out.
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Paul Wag
Posted 2003-06-23 9:00 AM (#207767 - in reply to #207744)
Subject: Re: Slide Guitar?


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Hmmmmm, I could set my sites on that model reso instead of a 12-string...
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Bailey
Posted 2003-06-24 12:54 AM (#207768 - in reply to #207744)
Subject: Re: Slide Guitar?


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I'd buy one, no qustions asked.
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