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Slipkid
Posted 2004-05-19 5:37 AM (#187376)
Subject: Where do they go?



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With so many years of having guitars mass produced by so many companys, where do they all go? Are most tucked away in closets? Do enough find their way into the trash for there to a market for replacement? And who is the person and at just what point does he (or she) decide that a guitar needs to be put down? Darn, I have an old Ovation t-shirt that I just can't seem to part with.
In a recent thread, rayjbenet told a great story how his guitar got run over by a car. Okay....that accounts for one.
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I also wonder where in the hell do all the old fiberglass boats end up. But that's for another bulletin board.
Brad
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alpep
Posted 2004-05-19 7:26 AM (#187377 - in reply to #187376)
Subject: Re: Where do they go?


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well it is rather amazing that with all the instruments made and imported into the US that we are not seeing them all over the place. I would venture to say that a large percentage do get trashed. I personally have owned many trashed guitars some that would have been greatly valued, but unfortunately they were damaged. More get damaged than you think.

another thing is that student grade instruments are more likely to get trashed or thrown out than professional grade and that is because they are more prone to being damaged.

another reason is most guitarists own more than one instrument. YOu need an electric, electric 12, electric bass, acoustic, acoustic 12, acoustic bass, arched top, one of each color, one of each brand etc.
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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2004-05-19 7:49 AM (#187378 - in reply to #187376)
Subject: Re: Where do they go?


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... where do they go?.... probably the same place my socks go after they disappear from the dryer! :rolleyes:
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Beal
Posted 2004-05-19 7:54 AM (#187379 - in reply to #187376)
Subject: Re: Where do they go?



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From a manufacturing point of view we used to ask ourselves this question. It was of concern since if it was going to reach saturation soon we'd like to know. We finally decided that saturation was not going to be reached, ever, and that we really didn't want to know the answer, just so long as they kept going somewhere.
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CharlieB
Posted 2004-05-19 7:56 AM (#187380 - in reply to #187376)
Subject: Re: Where do they go?


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Tim... socks getting lost in the drier is no big mystery, although the appliance industry has kept it more or less a secret since day one.

To generate the heat needed to dry clothes, the industry has deveoloped what amounts to warm fission. The atoms of socks are split, and the resiltant energy release provides the heat to dry the rest of your clothes. In fact, when you plug your drier in, the electricity only makes the motor go round, and the timer function. Of course, one sock can dry many many loads of wet laundry, so you only lose one occasionally. You can easily prove this by running the drier with no heat, and notice that you will NEVER lose a sock unless you turn on the heat, effectively starting the nuclear reaction.
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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2004-05-19 8:13 AM (#187381 - in reply to #187376)
Subject: Re: Where do they go?


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.... ok... that explains the socks.... now, what about the fluxuating coat hangers?! One day there are thousands, and the next day none!.... hmmmmm was that a Black Helicopter flying past my house? :eek:
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Slipkid
Posted 2004-05-19 5:07 PM (#187382 - in reply to #187376)
Subject: Re: Where do they go?



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CWK2,
It is interesting that that factory spent time on this issue and came to that conclusion. You would think that at some point you would reach critical mass.
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Well, they are going somewhere. But how many times will old Uncle Franks guitar get passed down? A guitar must get banged up pretty bad to get thrown out.
Brad
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Old Applause Owner
Posted 2004-05-19 6:54 PM (#187383 - in reply to #187376)
Subject: Re: Where do they go?


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Location: Canton (Detroit), MI
Brad, where do all the old guitars go????............EBAY!!!!!! :D :D :D

Roger
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dvd
Posted 2004-05-19 7:15 PM (#187384 - in reply to #187376)
Subject: Re: Where do they go?



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I thought UPS destroyed them all. Guess that comes after eBay. ;)
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Nils
Posted 2004-05-21 9:38 PM (#187385 - in reply to #187376)
Subject: Re: Where do they go?


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Originally posted by dvd:
I thought UPS destroyed them all. Guess that comes after eBay. ;)


The first logical explanation I've seen! :)

/\/\/
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Stevechapman
Posted 2004-05-22 4:45 PM (#187386 - in reply to #187376)
Subject: Re: Where do they go?


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Nils,
You're right! It's Logical.
However Most of us likely wish thay all just appeared in our homes. :D
David Copperfield..where are you when we need you? :rolleyes:
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Bailey
Posted 2004-05-23 2:00 AM (#187387 - in reply to #187376)
Subject: Re: Where do they go?


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CharlieB

I would keep a close eye on anyone following you, I worked at a nucleur facility where many hush-hush R&D projects were conducted. Sock Fission was considered somewhere in the same category as Roswell's visit by the explorers from Heidi Prime who used a similar propulsion method, (the odor of unchanged socks from the cowboy types guided them to that part of the US, my wife expects a second party to arrive every time she does our laundry). Guitar fission was tried by NASA on some unmanned missions but the results were unconclusive as it seemed that only a person as skilled as Chet or Glen could play fast enough to start the reaction, I could do it in the lab on "Orange Blossom Special" but the mandolin was to small to power a full sized spaceship. Suffice it to say the Chechens stole our research and as soon as they can fully separate from the old USSR we may get hit with a stringed WMD of some type, in the meantime they secretly buy, steal, and divert in shipping all those guitars that are mysteriously missing. Sorry to disapoint you WK2, but they seldom buy a new guitar. I think I have said too much already, but the Russkys hit the Chechens with a small guitar bomb in that theater fiasco.

A BLACK KAMAN HELICOPTER IS RIGHT OUTSIDE!!!!
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Slipkid
Posted 2004-05-23 6:14 AM (#187388 - in reply to #187376)
Subject: Re: Where do they go?



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WWoooowwwww......Really? :eek:
That post was so good I read it 3 times.
Brad
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xnoel
Posted 2004-05-23 4:23 PM (#187389 - in reply to #187376)
Subject: Re: Where do they go?


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Where have all the guitars gone,
After the G.A.S.ing
Where have all the guitars gone,
After the fun
Where have all the guitars gone,
Gone to closets every one
When will they ever learn
When will they ever learn

Put away with strings still tight
And most are rusted
Put away with strings so tight
Some are busted
Put away with strings so tight
Neck is badly twisted
When will they ever learn
When will they ever learn

Where have all the guitars gone
UPS man he got some
Where have all the guitars gone
UPS man, he bust em
Where have all the guitars gone
Gone to graveyards every one
When will we ever learn
When will we ever learn

I could go on, but this is probably more than you can stand at one reading.

By the way if you don't know what melody to sing this to, you are waaaay too young.

noel
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Slipkid
Posted 2004-05-23 4:37 PM (#187390 - in reply to #187376)
Subject: Re: Where do they go?



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Nah....I know that song. Gramps taught it to me. ;)
Brad
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MWoody
Posted 2004-05-23 4:53 PM (#187391 - in reply to #187376)
Subject: Re: Where do they go?



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When I was jus' a little bitty boy
Uncle Charlie gave me shiny toy
A carbon top and 12 bright strings
He said it was my Ding-a-ling-a-ling...

Up into my room I'd bring
to go play with my Ding-a-ling-a-ling
The pretty girls would love to sing
while I played with my Ding-a-ling-a-ling

Now to church I bring this thing
with a carbon top and 12 bright strings
...So every time the chior would sing
You'd see me playin with my...

My apologies Mr. Berry
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Bailey
Posted 2004-05-24 1:36 AM (#187392 - in reply to #187376)
Subject: Re: Where do they go?


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Good Stuff

Unfortunately for me, I know the tune to both of those songs and I thought they were too modern for me when I first heard them.

I'm posting while chained inside a black Kaman Helicopter on a computer that appears to belong to someone who uses the handle cwk2, pilot says he runs the world behind the scenes, strange looking power source that reeks of dirty socks, best I can describe it, it looks like a clothes dryer connected to the main transmission. They took my socks and shoes, but strangely, my shoes were returned. shortly afterwards the chopper hit what seemed like warp speed, I'm a little embarrased as I hadn't changed those socks in 2 weeks as my wife was visiting our daughter, and I just can't operate a washer. The chopper has a strange scoop that seems to sense loose guitars as we pass over houses and sucks them out of closets and attics and feeds them to a robotic version of a young Roy Clark that plays them rapidly and they disappear in a flash of energy that sails through the sky towards Florida, a house there has a monstrous antenna that collects the energy and powers a gigantic Ovation amp and a weird guy there plays Ovations and resophonics through the amp. His whole compound is powered by that energy.

Help, I'm being dragged by the Roy Clark robot towards the clothes dryer power source. Whoopy Whoopy Whoopy HOT in here.
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Slipkid
Posted 2004-05-24 5:33 AM (#187393 - in reply to #187376)
Subject: Re: Where do they go?



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Another insiteful Baily post. This time 1:36 A.M. Why so early? Did the bar have an early last call?
Since we digress...
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Ohhhhh the cat got dead, we put him in a box
And we dug a little hole and we covered him with rocks.
We picked a couple dandelions and said a little prayer.
Then we all went off to bed cause we really didn't care.
(Heywood Banks)
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Brad
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xnoel
Posted 2004-05-24 8:35 AM (#187394 - in reply to #187376)
Subject: Re: Where do they go?


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Where have all the ding-a-lings gone
To the Ovation Fan Club, every one

noel
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MWoody
Posted 2004-05-24 9:22 AM (#187395 - in reply to #187376)
Subject: Re: Where do they go?



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When will they ever learn

When will they e-e-e-e-ver learn?

Stick a fork in me, I'm done.
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Nils
Posted 2004-05-24 9:55 AM (#187396 - in reply to #187376)
Subject: Re: Where do they go?


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Originally posted by Slipkid:
Another insiteful Baily post. This time 1:36 A.M. Why so early? Did the bar have an early last call?
Since we digress...
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Ohhhhh the cat got dead, we put him in a box
And we dug a little hole and we covered him with rocks.
We picked a couple dandelions and said a little prayer.
Then we all went off to bed cause we really didn't care.
(Heywood Banks)
.
Brad


The REST of the story...

The Cat Got Dead

The cat got dead so we put ‘em in a box,
Then we dug a little hole & we covered him with rocks,
Then we picked a couple Dandelions, said a little prayer,
And we all went off to bed cuz we mostly didn’t care.

In the middle of the night the dog started sniffin’,
It was the Labrador retriever that belonged to Mrs. Griffin,
And even though the cat was smelly & stiff,
He thought it would make a nice addition, to Mrs. Griffin’s kitchen....

Throughout the house the dead cat’s curiosity,
With kitty’s on the couch with her coat & her callosity,
Well people gave her kitty gifts but all the dog could afford,
Was a cat he dug up with a case of rigor mortis.

When the woman saw the cat there began the pandemonium,
The dog got the cat with a chunk of the Congolium,
The cat snapped back to life right there on the linoleum,
And shook his shaggy head out of its catatonium.

From the floor to the counter & all around the kitchen,
The cat was chased by the dog & the dog by Mrs. Griffin,
Past the living room couch with the kitty motif,
Through the front door screen & into the street.

Well old John Duke drove the delivery route,
And he happened to be passin’ with a van full of fruit,
He missed the woman & the dog but his face went pale,
When in a flash the cat was corned beef hash with a tail!

Yuck!

Ohh, the cat got dead so we put ‘em in a box,
Then we dug a little hole & we covered him with rocks,
Then we picked a couple Dandelions, said a little prayer,
And we all went off to bed cuz we mostly didn’t care!


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seesquare
Posted 2004-05-24 10:00 AM (#187397 - in reply to #187376)
Subject: Re: Where do they go?


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Yeah, well......works more reliably than Prozac. Wanna "weigh in" on this one, Mr Wong?
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xnoel
Posted 2004-05-24 1:20 PM (#187398 - in reply to #187376)
Subject: Re: Where do they go?


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Hey Woody,
Maybe we could write songs together like recording artists do when thy record a duet, different studios never singing together.

If the rest of you think that would be bad, think how much worse it could be if we actually got together!

noel
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Guy C
Posted 2004-05-24 2:59 PM (#187399 - in reply to #187376)
Subject: Re: Where do they go?


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Hi...glad to see other people's opinion of UPS. Took me forever to get my guitar delivered to me when I was home. They never came in the "suggested" times.
Great song noel...I remember the song and I'm not sure I appreciate the gramps comment from one of the replies. By the way it was Bob Dylan's birthday today! (I saw him in concert in 75)
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Slipkid
Posted 2004-05-24 10:06 PM (#187400 - in reply to #187376)
Subject: Re: Where do they go?



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Guy C,
I hope you noticed the little winky face after the gramps comment. No harm intended.
Brad
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