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alpep
Posted 2004-06-03 7:47 AM (#185952)
Subject: ofc guitar option one


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OK
this will be option one of the ofc guitar please only post here if you like the specs and are interested in buying one. If I cannot get enough interest there is no use in even asking.

Please note that this guitar will not be cheap. This guitar would be something that would be a "collectible" guitar yet designed to satisfy the Adamas 1 frenzy and be a killer sounding instrument. If you have any realistic suggestions or are interested please post. If you are NOT interested move on to option 2


Adamas 1
choice of bowl size
op pro preamp
lo z hi z outputs
ebony board
cutaway
single epaulet
slot head
gold hardware
pearloid buttons
textured top (color yet to be determined but hopefully something unique that was NOT in the original Adamas lineup)
schaller tuners
carved bridge
certificate of authenticity
numbered 1/? OFC
this guitar will not have the LX features since I am rather sure they cannot currently do that in an Adamas
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2004-06-03 7:53 AM (#185953 - in reply to #185952)
Subject: Re: ofc guitar option one


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Al, what's the possiblities of adding a wide-neck option?
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alpep
Posted 2004-06-03 7:55 AM (#185954 - in reply to #185952)
Subject: Re: ofc guitar option one


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Paul
that may be available at an additional cost. I need to get some sort of concensus before we start customizing the formula
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roundsound
Posted 2004-06-03 8:24 AM (#185955 - in reply to #185952)
Subject: Re: ofc guitar option one


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I would be interested in purchasing one if this could be produced with deep bowl as an option. (although I’d choose a non-cutaway model if I had the choice)
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2004-06-03 8:57 AM (#185956 - in reply to #185952)
Subject: Re: ofc guitar option one


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OK, I'll try pushing my luck even further, 12-fret wide-neck option and count me in!
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alpep
Posted 2004-06-03 8:59 AM (#185957 - in reply to #185952)
Subject: Re: ofc guitar option one


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Paul
you want a custom guitar.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2004-06-03 9:27 AM (#185958 - in reply to #185952)
Subject: Re: ofc guitar option one


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Yep, and if I ordered another custom guitar it would be pretty much your option-1 spec but with with a wide 12-fret neck. If you can swing the wide-neck I could live with a 14-fret version.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2004-06-03 10:55 AM (#185959 - in reply to #185952)
Subject: Re: ofc guitar option one



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I shoulda read this one first ... my bad. I like this one too, wide neck or not. Either way, I'm in. Even if I gotta sell something else.
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alpep
Posted 2004-06-03 5:42 PM (#185960 - in reply to #185952)
Subject: Re: ofc guitar option one


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I was thinking maybe we can get them to do the gold flake on the back of the bowl or maybe have them shot black and shiny
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roundsound
Posted 2004-06-03 5:57 PM (#185961 - in reply to #185952)
Subject: Re: ofc guitar option one


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Gold flake sounds awesome.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2004-06-03 6:52 PM (#185962 - in reply to #185952)
Subject: Re: ofc guitar option one


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Shiny bowl! it looks so cool. I can't believe they stopped doing that all those years ago. A shiny bowl on a new unique guitar, what a great idea.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-06-03 7:23 PM (#185963 - in reply to #185952)
Subject: Re: ofc guitar option one


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Sounds like a man who's got a couple of shiney bowl guitars.

Actually, in my dream for my own custom built LX, that's the one thing that I can't decide on. Should I have the bowl done shiney?
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2004-06-03 7:26 PM (#185964 - in reply to #185952)
Subject: Re: ofc guitar option one


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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
[QB]Sounds like a man who's got a couple of shiney bowl guitars.

QB]


Three actually.

two really, one is a KK repro
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-06-03 7:31 PM (#185965 - in reply to #185952)
Subject: Re: ofc guitar option one


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Yeah, but a great repro.

Be glad that I was willing to let them out of my hands.
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JohnnyMac
Posted 2004-06-03 11:33 PM (#185966 - in reply to #185952)
Subject: Re: ofc guitar option one


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Originally posted by stonebobbo:
Even if I gotta sell something else.


...and whatever else isn't nailed down! This is as close to my dream guitar as I will ever get this side of eternity. Just curious... why single epaulet? Anyway, this would be worth going way into debt for. Maybe some kind of burst for a finish?
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alpep
Posted 2004-06-04 1:01 AM (#185967 - in reply to #185952)
Subject: Re: ofc guitar option one


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IMHO The single epaulet gives a much better bass response. These guitars BOOM.

I talked to the guy who ran the Adamas shop in the early days. His name is Nick Mackin. He told me that when they did the cutaway they only did one epaulet because they could not figure out how to do the other one and marketing needed a guitar with a cutaway. A happy accident occurred. the guitars really sounded good. later they added the lower bout epaulet but IMHO it is not needed.

the elite T and the new melissa guitars all are single epaulet. This is a decision that directly reflects the sound that is coming out of the box.


hope that explains it
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2004-06-04 2:43 AM (#185968 - in reply to #185952)
Subject: Re: ofc guitar option one


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Sounds like if folks are willing to live with a mid-bowl (which I think is fine based on the newer architectual elements) it kinda looks like an LX with an Adamas textured top, and a slotted headstock.

I would be very interested in this, and it also seems like something that would not require any significant amount of tooling on the part of Ovation which will help keep cost down.

I am guessing we are talking a guitar in the 2K price range at this point, which should sound pretty awesome and look pretty kewl also.

I really think the essential ingredients in the tone of the original slothead are the textured top and the slotted headstock. Add the new neck mounting and new bowl, and we might be getting closer to the sound that we have craved.

I'm in...
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2004-06-04 4:54 AM (#185969 - in reply to #185952)
Subject: Re: ofc guitar option one


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Mid-depth is fine, I'm in. I aggree with Al about the single epaulette. Anyone else fancy a wide-neck? If there's more than just me it might become more realistic to do.
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roundsound
Posted 2004-06-04 5:28 AM (#185970 - in reply to #185952)
Subject: Re: ofc guitar option one


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I’ll commit to one of these if I can get a deep bowl. (the 30th Ann. CL has spoiled me rotten)
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JohnnyMac
Posted 2004-06-04 9:56 AM (#185971 - in reply to #185952)
Subject: Re: ofc guitar option one


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Originally posted by alpep:
IMHO The single epaulet gives a much better bass response. These guitars BOOM.


Ahhh. Now I get it.
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Pep
Posted 2004-06-04 10:01 AM (#185972 - in reply to #185952)
Subject: Re: ofc guitar option one


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I'm interested. I'd like to see a deep bowl option too, but can live with the mid.
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CharlieB
Posted 2004-06-04 11:39 AM (#185973 - in reply to #185952)
Subject: Re: ofc guitar option one


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OK, so what kind of money are we talking here?
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2004-06-04 1:39 PM (#185974 - in reply to #185952)
Subject: Re: ofc guitar option one


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Remember, once you change the bowl to deep, unless they make a deep LX, you are talking a complete custom guitar. No ANS neck, no ligher bowl, Different drilling for preamp etc etc etc...

If you can live with a mid-bowl and frankly there are some shallows that outshine deeps, there are MANY more factors than just the bowl depth which frankly in my opinion has the LEAST factor on the deep sound, but I digress.... If you can live with a mid-bowl, then for Ovation it's just mixing and matching parts, and maybe changing a drill bit.

The slotted headstock can be done on any headstock from what I understand. A different top (Adamas) mounted on a bowl... it's been done. The rest of the guitar exists already and I'd like to not see the price over 3K if at all possible, but that's just me.

Frankly the more I think about a textured graphite top Elite LX with a slotted headstock..... the more I think this could be one helluva guitar.
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alpep
Posted 2004-06-18 10:37 PM (#185975 - in reply to #185952)
Subject: Re: ofc guitar option one


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Just wanted to give you all an update.

I had a LONG talk with Rick Hall last Wednesday night. Amongst the things we talked about was the OFC guitar. He is very interested in making this a reality.

There are many things in the works for the Adamas line. Don't ask me I am sworn to secrecy. We are talking about making this OFC guitar a unique one, a guitar that will stand out from the other offerings from Adamas.

Many of the specs that I submitted are "in the works" already. I am not sure of what the final specs will be but Rick and I both talked about how we want to make it unique and special and particular to the fan club. A guitar that incorporates the class and styling of the old with the benefits of the modern technology.

All I can say at this point is start saving your money now. As I said before a guitar with these specifications will not be bottom feeder friendly. My goal is to make it as function and as special as possible. This has to be a work of art but something that will sonically knock you out. This guitar WILL be special and of course available to the fan club members.

just wanted to update you. No more specifics right now but we are working on them.
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MWoody
Posted 2004-06-19 12:08 AM (#185976 - in reply to #185952)
Subject: Re: ofc guitar option one



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You are such a tease! :rolleyes:

Will you continue to take trades?
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