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I landslide of Ovation negativity?

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Englishplayer
Posted 2004-06-18 7:54 AM (#184808)
Subject: I landslide of Ovation negativity?


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On acousticguitar.com someone just posted something about why more Ovations aren't mentioned more on that site. I predict a landslide of comments about twangy sound, tinty sound, bowls falling off laps, etc..
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cliff
Posted 2004-06-18 8:21 AM (#184809 - in reply to #184808)
Subject: Re: I landslide of Ovation negativity?


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Surprisingly, the responses have been somewhat "kind". There were no "handsprings and huzzahs", but nobody used the word "suck" (at least not yet). A couple people did use the word "plastic", tho.
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Englishplayer
Posted 2004-06-18 8:29 AM (#184810 - in reply to #184808)
Subject: Re: I landslide of Ovation negativity?


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Yes, I just posted on that thread and looking at the responses It's not as bad as I was expecting.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-06-18 9:26 AM (#184811 - in reply to #184808)
Subject: Re: I landslide of Ovation negativity?


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It's an interesting read. The major complaints are ergonomics (it slips off the lap), a prejudice againsts the round back, and the sound.

Can't do much about the first two, and Ovation has been working on the third. I'm encouraged.
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Stevechapman
Posted 2004-06-18 11:02 AM (#184812 - in reply to #184808)
Subject: Re: I landslide of Ovation negativity?


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Most of the Posts made are clearly from people who have never given Ovation much of a chance. they are just clearly against the look and feel of the guitars.(Lets be honest..If they were trying a USA Made Ovation with at least a mid-size Bowl-if they were to play one with an open mind,they would find they actually liked the guitar) Like Al say's Ovation Guitars Don't get the respect they Deserve. Ovation is clearly making strides in improving sound quality.And they are constantly working on new ideas and designs. Most of the Members here Love their O's!! I love Mine. I found that after reading the Topic While the posts are not Really bashing..some of them come close. With the exception of some of the OFC members trying to shed some light on the topic.
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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2004-06-18 11:04 AM (#184813 - in reply to #184808)
Subject: Re: I landslide of Ovation negativity?


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What's the link to the article?
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alpep
Posted 2004-06-18 2:38 PM (#184814 - in reply to #184808)
Subject: Re: I landslide of Ovation negativity?


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why bother
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MWoody
Posted 2004-06-18 3:05 PM (#184815 - in reply to #184808)
Subject: Re: I landslide of Ovation negativity?



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Just took a gander in there.

They all need a life!


Not at all like us.
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TRboy
Posted 2004-06-18 3:36 PM (#184816 - in reply to #184808)
Subject: Re: I landslide of Ovation negativity?



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Here you go Tim.........
http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/017616.html]
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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2004-06-18 4:13 PM (#184817 - in reply to #184808)
Subject: Re: I landslide of Ovation negativity?


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Trboy,

Thanks.....

looked... and ... agree with Al.....
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cliff
Posted 2004-06-18 5:15 PM (#184818 - in reply to #184808)
Subject: Re: I landslide of Ovation negativity?


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I guess maybe I'm just one of those ill-mannered children (gee...ya' THINK?) that enjoys "tapping on the glass" and annoying the dim-witted creatures therein.
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Englishplayer
Posted 2004-06-18 5:23 PM (#184819 - in reply to #184808)
Subject: Re: I landslide of Ovation negativity?


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Cliff, all of the extreme negatives are posted by people for whom today is their first day on that board. My guess is all the comments are from the same person. Happens on message boards of all types (political, legal, video game boards, etc..) all the time.
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MWoody
Posted 2004-06-18 5:24 PM (#184820 - in reply to #184808)
Subject: Re: I landslide of Ovation negativity?



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Until one day you slip and find yourself on the wrong side of the glass...


Bmmmm puh...

Bmmmm puh...


Bmmm puh, bmmm puh, bmmm puh, bmmm puh


I had a very hard time not registering and jumping in!!!
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cliff
Posted 2004-06-18 5:32 PM (#184821 - in reply to #184808)
Subject: Re: I landslide of Ovation negativity?


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Englishplayer;
Yeah, that makes sense.
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Slipkid
Posted 2004-06-18 10:38 PM (#184822 - in reply to #184808)
Subject: Re: I landslide of Ovation negativity?



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Sorry, I got sucked in.
I registered, entered a polite OFC type post, and got flamed instantly. I deleted my post and backed out quietly.
I really like this board.
I really dis-like that board.
Brad
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zchord
Posted 2004-06-18 10:45 PM (#184823 - in reply to #184808)
Subject: Re: I landslide of Ovation negativity?


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Slipkid,
That place is not usually that fiery. (I'm Alka Seltzer over there, a dig on Seagull guitars, get it?) That one troll jerk "realguitars" or whatever (then he made himself "ovation-lover" and was like "I love my 1990 celebrity") was the problem. Stupid people who suck at playing guitar, so instead of practicing they spend all of their time on the internet talking about playing guitar....umm, I gotta go practice.
I love my Ovation and will play anyone in the ground if they have a problem with it, even Steve Vai or Mr Miagi or something....
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Slipkid
Posted 2004-06-19 5:58 AM (#184824 - in reply to #184808)
Subject: Re: I landslide of Ovation negativity?



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Thanks zchord,
Never the less, I'll just spend my time here.
Brad
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alpep
Posted 2004-06-19 9:33 PM (#184825 - in reply to #184808)
Subject: Re: I landslide of Ovation negativity?


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damn the whole thing got pulled before i had a chance to read it.

did anyone save it?
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Bluebird
Posted 2004-06-20 6:23 AM (#184826 - in reply to #184808)
Subject: Re: I landslide of Ovation negativity?



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Hi Al, the link was bad in the other post. Try this.

Wayne

"Not much about Ovation ... "
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-06-20 10:00 AM (#184827 - in reply to #184808)
Subject: Re: I landslide of Ovation negativity?


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That's a very very strange group of people. What I got is that it's ok to be mean, narrow minded, and petty, as long as it's on "their side". To show a strong dissenting opinion is to be disdained and ridiculed.

Sounds like most of the people over there are college professors.

I, for one, am glad that Clifford hangs out on our board --- DUDE!
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mattsmith
Posted 2004-06-20 6:16 PM (#184828 - in reply to #184808)
Subject: Re: I landslide of Ovation negativity?


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I just read the AC thread...as someone who is "out there in the trenches" playing live and performing chop shops in music stores and guitar workshops and festivals I am constantly asked "what do you really play?"....I always reply "i play ovation because no other guitar feels as good, or allows me to change tunings as easily ar takes string guage changes as well... In short, I can only do what I do on ovations..."
the good folks at ovation are passionate and dedicated to reaching new heights of acoustic excellence...im honored to be a part of the family there and here... there will always be ignorance and strong opinions, just as there will always be racism and injustice in this world... play on my brothers and sisters... spread light ...not stupidity...we have enough battles out there... just my 2cents...
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alpep
Posted 2004-06-20 6:27 PM (#184829 - in reply to #184808)
Subject: Re: I landslide of Ovation negativity?


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Matt
as usual you are a voice of reason.

joining in postive discussion is fine. When it degenerates into a pissing match it is just not worth it.

I read the whole thread before it was edited. Someone was kind enough to send it to me.

For some of our long time members I am surprised you did not pick up on some of the clues. One of the posters made sure to single me out as a corporate shill (we have heard that before haven't we?)

another poster describes his guitar sound as a "cannon" (I think some of you know where I am going)

I would only ask that you respect other boards like you respect ours. Acoustic guitar mag is a good mag hey they even published me !!!


have a good day.
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mattsmith
Posted 2004-06-20 6:41 PM (#184830 - in reply to #184808)
Subject: Re: I landslide of Ovation negativity?


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alpep for president!!!(well maybe secretary of da fence?)
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cliff
Posted 2004-06-21 7:27 AM (#184831 - in reply to #184808)
Subject: Re: I landslide of Ovation negativity?


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Yeah Al, as things started to denegrate I had picked some of the "clues" as well. Same mastery (or lack thereof) of the English language, and same M.O. that we've seen used before (here). It's sad that someone that smart who does such good and meaningful work has to resort to such childish tactics.

. . . . I guess ya' just have to wish him well and move on . . .


. . . I have.
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Beal
Posted 2004-06-21 7:33 AM (#184832 - in reply to #184808)
Subject: Re: I landslide of Ovation negativity?



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Soooooo, Dr. He He surfaces again? Such a saunt.
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