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Roger Waters' 12-string O on the block

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cruster
Posted 2004-06-21 12:48 PM (#184599)
Subject: Roger Waters' 12-string O on the block


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Looks like he donated it to the Crossroads Centre charity auction (there are some really impressive lots in there). Now, how to explain to SWMBO what I need that 5k for.

Pink Floyds 12-string O

Watch that GAS...

(Oh, and by the way, which one is Pink?)

EDIT: DANGIT! I tried to use the URL button to add the URL and it munged it up! What did I do wrong?
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Standingovation
Posted 2004-06-21 1:03 PM (#184600 - in reply to #184599)
Subject: Re: Roger Waters' 12-string O on the block



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Looks to be in great condition. There are also some other very interesting guitars in this auction collection. Price of course is the biggest problem.
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MWoody
Posted 2004-06-21 1:27 PM (#184601 - in reply to #184599)
Subject: Re: Roger Waters' 12-string O on the block



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I couldn't get it to work either.

Nice guitar though.
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TRboy
Posted 2004-06-21 1:41 PM (#184602 - in reply to #184599)
Subject: Re: Roger Waters' 12-string O on the block



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http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/search/LotDetail.asp?sid=&intObjectID=4303112&SE=CMWCAT04+83099+%2D1026109406+&QR=M+1+1+Aqc0000900+74556++Aqc0000900+&entry=roger+waters&SU=1&RQ= False&AN=2]
:cool: :D :)
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MWoody
Posted 2004-06-21 1:53 PM (#184603 - in reply to #184599)
Subject: Re: Roger Waters' 12-string O on the block



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Youdaman TRboy. I never could cipher Boolian phrasology.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2004-06-21 2:02 PM (#184604 - in reply to #184599)
Subject: Re: Roger Waters' 12-string O on the block


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I think the link is just tooo long... :( bit it works.
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cruster
Posted 2004-06-21 6:26 PM (#184605 - in reply to #184599)
Subject: Re: Roger Waters' 12-string O on the block


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Originally posted by Standingovation:
Looks to be in great condition. There are also some other very interesting guitars in this auction collection. Price of course is the biggest problem.


Yes, there are quite a few that I wouldn't mind having, but I'd never be able to do them justice. :) I saw Clapton in concert back in the early 90s. Must have been pre-93, because he was still doing the cigarette in the headstock thing. It was a very, very good concert, but seemed way too short. I suppose that's just because it was good. Contrast with the atrocious Jethro Tull concert I went to in the same time frame, which seemed to drag on forever. :D
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-06-21 6:33 PM (#184606 - in reply to #184599)
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In these kinds of auctions, things go for a lot more than anticipated. It's for charity, and people who bid tend to have bucks.

In the first auction, back in 1999, Clapton's first Strat, went for almost half a mil.
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John Lawrence
Posted 2004-06-21 7:09 PM (#184607 - in reply to #184599)
Subject: Re: Roger Waters' 12-string O on the block


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It's just another brick in "The Wall"! :) Play On!

John L.

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Paul Templeman
Posted 2004-06-21 7:14 PM (#184608 - in reply to #184599)
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These guitars currently fetch anwhere between $600 & $1200 and are worth every cent. The buyer will need to be one hell of a Roger Water's fan to pay anywhere near the estimate.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-06-21 7:22 PM (#184609 - in reply to #184599)
Subject: Re: Roger Waters' 12-string O on the block


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Several years ago I bought a magazine on Eric Clapton and it detailed a number of the guitars that were sold in the first Christie's auction for Crossroads. You'd be absolutely amazed at what some things sold for. Guitars thatwere estimated to sell at $3-$4000 went for $15000 or more. This is not going to be based on reality. I would guess that Blackie will go for $500K to $750K.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2004-06-21 7:34 PM (#184610 - in reply to #184599)
Subject: Re: Roger Waters' 12-string O on the block


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Yeah maybe, but this guitar belongs to Roger Waters, who is not a "guitarist" as such and in terms of celebrity has a way to go before he reaches Clapton's stature. Celebrity ownership is not always a guarantee. Dweezil Zappa had a hard time unloading a Hendrix-owned Strat (slighltly fire-damaged) The other consideration with the Water's guitar is - "it's an Ovation and we all know how crap they are"

"Blackie" will get 6 figures, no problem, the Preacher 12 will struggle, betcha. Or maybe a Clapton-endorsed auction is just like a mink-coated, high-heeled, be-jewelled, Armani-suited version of the "ebay phenomenom" i.e. the ability to sell junk at top-dollar.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-06-21 7:47 PM (#184611 - in reply to #184599)
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...version of the "ebay phenomenom" i.e. the ability to sell junk at top-dollar.


It is. The Preacher 12 will go for $5-$7000.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2004-06-21 7:51 PM (#184612 - in reply to #184599)
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Great!!!!!!!! Then I should be able to get at least $3K for my Deacon 12!!!!!!!!!. Imagine if Clapton had played a GP for maybe a few seconds. I don't think there'd be a word for a figure with that many zero's.
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Beal
Posted 2004-06-22 8:12 AM (#184613 - in reply to #184599)
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Has to be the most expensive Preecheur in the world!
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2004-06-22 10:04 AM (#184614 - in reply to #184599)
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You would be amazed what a signature is worth to a fan. Make it a signed item with proceeds going to some charity and the sky is the limit. How about $2,500 for an Epiphone SG signed by Buck Dharma and Eric Bloom. The guitar brand spanking new from MF is only $200.00.
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Standingovation
Posted 2004-06-22 10:31 AM (#184615 - in reply to #184599)
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About 6 months ago I bought a '62 Telecaster. It was a nicely worn guitar and would have fetched a pretty high price on ebay. Except that it was autographed on the front by some dill-weed nobody had ever heard of. So the bids were very low. I grabbed it for a fraction of what it was worth. Five seconds with a rag and citrus cleaner took the sharpie autograph right off.

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Bluebird
Posted 2004-06-22 10:41 AM (#184616 - in reply to #184599)
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Dave, are you sure that's a '62? Rosewood fingerboards became the almost exclusive norm in '59 replacing the one-piece maple necks, unless it has a maple cap fingerboard, which would make it ultra-rare for that period. I love that weathered old Phender stuff.

Wayne
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Standingovation
Posted 2004-06-22 12:00 PM (#184617 - in reply to #184599)
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Wayne, I don't know much at all about fenders. The serial number is 211620. The ebay posting just said something like "Vintage Autographed Telecaster". I was told by someone who "seemed to know" that it was either '62 or '68. '62 sounds so much "cooler" so that's what I say it is. But who knows. It's a killer guitar. Actually I just put a black pickguard on it and it even looks better still.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-06-22 12:10 PM (#184618 - in reply to #184599)
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With Fenders, you can't always go by the serial number. They used to just toss 5000 plates into a bin and grab one as needed. You might be more accurate going with guitar features.
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Duncan J
Posted 2004-06-22 12:31 PM (#184619 - in reply to #184599)
Subject: Re: Roger Waters' 12-string O on the block


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I once saw one of Canada's top jazz guitarists, Ed Bickert, at a club in Toronto. Great smooth, warm jazz tone from his guitar. A big f-hole Gibson? Nope - a beat-up old Tele.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-06-22 12:40 PM (#184620 - in reply to #184599)
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When a player is really good, it's him you're hearing, not the guitar.
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Standingovation
Posted 2004-06-22 1:02 PM (#184621 - in reply to #184599)
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That explains why nobody notices my guitars.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-06-22 1:24 PM (#184622 - in reply to #184599)
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Well, I didn't mean to imply that, but.....
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Slap
Posted 2004-06-22 1:30 PM (#184623 - in reply to #184599)
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"When a player is really good, it's him you're hearing, not the guitar"

Paul.....I completely concur.

Dave, I like your fender. How much $ did you pay?
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