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Ocean
Posted 2004-07-09 4:16 PM (#183001)
Subject: Hoping for info on my guitar.


Joined:
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Posts: 14

Location: Canada
I just joined the fan club, hopefully to get info
on my guitar. The model number is 1122-4. I have
some info from ovationguitars.com's, "Cracking the
Code". Acoustic roundback, artist bowl 5 1/2" deep, Deluxe Baladeer, natural colour. Perhaps made in 1967 (Nov.) to 1968 (July). I would appreciate any feedback about this model; info, value, history, appeal. Thank you.
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cliff
Posted 2004-07-09 4:19 PM (#183002 - in reply to #183001)
Subject: Re: Hoping for info on my guitar.


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Posts: 14842

Location: NJ
It's crap.

. . . I'll give ya' $100 for it . .
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Stevechapman
Posted 2004-07-09 4:41 PM (#183003 - in reply to #183001)
Subject: Re: Hoping for info on my guitar.


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Location: Fayetteville, NC
Welcome aboard Ocean!
In case you couldn't figure it out..
Cliff was just jokeing.
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Ocean
Posted 2004-07-09 4:46 PM (#183004 - in reply to #183001)
Subject: Re: Hoping for info on my guitar.


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Location: Canada
Hi Cliff,
Don't hold back. But now everyone will expect you to pay for crap. heehee.
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Old Applause Owner
Posted 2004-07-09 4:53 PM (#183005 - in reply to #183001)
Subject: Re: Hoping for info on my guitar.


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Posts: 1922

Location: Canton (Detroit), MI
Ocean, sounds like a nice piece. I'm far from the expert on Os this old, but it sounds like it would be reasonably desirable if in good shape. There are some people here who really like the artist bowl guitars, some don't.

The shallowness of the bowl compared to the "normal" deep bowl is supposed to compromise the depth of the sound, which some don't care for. The artist bowl instruments are supposed to be more of a lead guitar than rhythm, from what I have gleaned here. I believe the artist bowl depth came from a request by Glen Campbell, although yours is not a GC signature model(that is the 1127).

Roger
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Ocean
Posted 2004-07-09 4:57 PM (#183006 - in reply to #183001)
Subject: Re: Hoping for info on my guitar.


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Location: Canada
Thank you Steve Chapman,
Much nicer welcome. Or is this a bad guy, good guy team? haha.
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Old Applause Owner
Posted 2004-07-09 4:58 PM (#183007 - in reply to #183001)
Subject: Re: Hoping for info on my guitar.


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Location: Canton (Detroit), MI
I think we all pay for crap...just that some types of crap are nicer than others!!!! ;)

Roger
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Ocean
Posted 2004-07-09 5:04 PM (#183008 - in reply to #183001)
Subject: Re: Hoping for info on my guitar.


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Location: Canada
Hey Roger,
Thanks for the info in your first message and the laugh from your second message.
(I think my guitar is in excellent condition.)
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cliff
Posted 2004-07-09 6:04 PM (#183009 - in reply to #183001)
Subject: Re: Hoping for info on my guitar.


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Location: NJ
Okay . . . $200.
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Beal
Posted 2004-07-09 6:07 PM (#183010 - in reply to #183001)
Subject: Re: Hoping for info on my guitar.



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Location: 6 String Ranch
This is the poorer sister to the 1123, both had spruce tops and mid bowls. If it was a deep bowl it would have cedar and be a 1113.
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Old Applause Owner
Posted 2004-07-09 6:26 PM (#183011 - in reply to #183001)
Subject: Re: Hoping for info on my guitar.


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Location: Canton (Detroit), MI
Before Cliff comes back with an offer of $250, I'll add that the shallow artist bowl is supposed to give a "brighter" sound, that is why it is supposed to be a lead guitar.

Roger
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cruster
Posted 2004-07-09 9:18 PM (#183012 - in reply to #183001)
Subject: Re: Hoping for info on my guitar.


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Location: Midland, MI
Originally posted by Old Applause Owner:
I think we all pay for crap...just that some types of crap are nicer than others!!!! ;)

Roger


Reminds me of my grandfather. Once, I made the mistake of telling him I *wanted* something or other. He held out both hands, palms up and laughed. I asked him, in my naivete, what was so funny. He said, holding up his right hand, 'Crap in this hand,' then, holding up his left hand, 'want in this hand. Which one are you going to fill up first?' I didn't get it for a couple of years.

I miss him.
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cruster
Posted 2004-07-09 9:20 PM (#183013 - in reply to #183001)
Subject: Re: Hoping for info on my guitar.


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Originally posted by Old Applause Owner:
Before Cliff comes back with an offer of $250, I'll add that the shallow artist bowl is supposed to give a "brighter" sound, that is why it is supposed to be a lead guitar.

Roger


Yeah, but everybody knows that O's were built for rhythm. Nobody plays an O as lead...therefore, it's undesireable crap that not even Cliff would want. Just to be cordial, I'll offer $125, but the OP will have to pay shipping. Oh, and it should have the OHSC for that kind of dough!

:D

Just kidding, Ocean. Welcome abored! No, wait, aboard!
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Ocean
Posted 2004-07-09 11:05 PM (#183014 - in reply to #183001)
Subject: Re: Hoping for info on my guitar.


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Hey Cruster,
That's "a broad" to you. haha. Thanks for the welcome.

Thanks to all for the info so far. Both on my guitar and on crap.

Cliff,
Please write again. In $100 increments. haha.
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Bluebird
Posted 2004-07-09 11:20 PM (#183015 - in reply to #183001)
Subject: Re: Hoping for info on my guitar.



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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Hi Ocean, welcome!

I think your guitar is a little newer than '67 if it has the artisi bowl as they didn't show up until about 1970. What is the serial #?

Wayne
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Jeff
Posted 2004-07-09 11:30 PM (#183016 - in reply to #183001)
Subject: Re: Hoping for info on my guitar.


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Location: Central Florida
Welcome Ocean,

The 1122-4 is a.k.a. the "Classic Balladeer"; and was a realatively short lived model in the Ovation line. It was only made for about three or four years, from approx. 1972-75 (maybe 76). I owned one for a couple of years. All of this is from memory, but I believe it was available as an acoustic only. At any rate, it's a nice guitar... Enjoy!

Jeff
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Beal
Posted 2004-07-10 7:24 AM (#183017 - in reply to #183001)
Subject: Re: Hoping for info on my guitar.



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The 1122 had a plain white rosette under the black leaf pattern, not the pearloid and had cheaper keys than the big sister 1123. I believe that they had the same brace pattern.

You'll like it here Ocean, why don't you go back to the sign in sheet and put where you're from? (Or would like to be from) Thanks.
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Ocean
Posted 2004-07-10 11:32 AM (#183018 - in reply to #183001)
Subject: Re: Hoping for info on my guitar.


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Location: Canada
Hello cwk2 (w-2),
Yes, I do like it here, thanks. I'm from Canada. Actually I'm still in Canada. ;-)

Hi Jeff,
You're not the only one to think my guitar may be from 1972-1976. I thought it was 1967-1968 based on what I read on ovationguitars.com.

Hey Bluebird/Wayne,
Thanks for the info. The serial number is 080385. Mean anything? The model number is part of an attractive, oval, pewter coloured metal plaque.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-07-10 11:56 AM (#183019 - in reply to #183001)
Subject: Re: Hoping for info on my guitar.


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According to the serial number it was built in 1976.
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Bluebird
Posted 2004-07-10 4:14 PM (#183020 - in reply to #183001)
Subject: Re: Hoping for info on my guitar.



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Which Ocean are you closest to? I am in NS.

Wayne
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-07-10 4:31 PM (#183021 - in reply to #183001)
Subject: Re: Hoping for info on my guitar.


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The 1122 was still listed in the 1977 catalog.
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Beal
Posted 2004-07-11 2:39 PM (#183022 - in reply to #183001)
Subject: Re: Hoping for info on my guitar.



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I think the 70's too, it wouldn't be the 60's. The line up hadn't gotten big enough for it by then.
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Ocean
Posted 2004-07-11 5:35 PM (#183023 - in reply to #183001)
Subject: Re: Hoping for info on my guitar.


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Hi Moody p.i./Paul,
Thanks. So 1976 and 1977 for age. That confirms what others on site thought too. Do you know what it might be worth? It's in mint condition.

Hi cwk2(w-2),
See above. haha. Also thanks.

Hello again Bluebird/Wayne,
I'm not near any oceans. I'm in Ontario so I have a long way to travel to get to any oceans but it's worth it. I haven't been to eastern Canada for a long time but it's on my list. I was in Massachusetts last October. Saw the ocean there and had an interesting time in Salem for Halloween. It's like Mardi gras with a Halloween theme. About 30,000 people, maybe half in costumes and 6 public portable toilets.
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MWoody
Posted 2004-07-11 6:15 PM (#183024 - in reply to #183001)
Subject: Re: Hoping for info on my guitar.



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"About 30,000 people, maybe half in costumes and 6 public portable toilets."

Sounds like you know about as much about crap as most of us do.

"What's it worth?" I think Miles ought to charge a dollar ($1.47 Canadian) every time that question is asked. The more popular dollar value is usually compared to what that model has fetched on Ebay, which is comparable to a Flea Market sale.

Hopfully you consider it more valuable that the "market". The thing to ask is is how desirable is the market for your model today. That, would be an interesting one to hear.
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Old Applause Owner
Posted 2004-07-11 6:56 PM (#183025 - in reply to #183001)
Subject: Re: Hoping for info on my guitar.


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Location: Canton (Detroit), MI
You have a good point, Mike, one that I have pondered. I wonder how many of the 2600-odd membership are people who joined to ask "how much is my guitar worth?" and then disappeared.

They often don't get much response and then probably think we're unfriendly. But it does get a little old. It just proves few people read the FAQs, unfortunately, because the answer is there.

Actually, the answer is "whatever someone will pay you for it", as it is for about anything. :)

Roger
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