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Location: Converse, Texas | A friend of mine just called me and told me that Crossroads Music in Delaware, Ohio, sold a new USA Flag Custom Legend -- for $650!!!!!!! :( |
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Location: Atlanta,Ga. | No suprise about that.They just sit and sit in music stores.The flag graphics are beautiful but it takes the right buyer to want one at $1900.00.Guitar center here in Atlanta has had two for over 2 years and no one has bought them.The only way to move them is at $650 or less. |
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Location: south east Michigan | It's all about being at the right place at the right time. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | For someone, the glass was half full. Better yet, it was 75% off!
There have been some repeat posters with the Flag guitars on eBay. Right person, right time, big wallet. I would think just getting the price to $1000 would be all it would take. |
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Location: Canton (Detroit), MI | I imagine it's a matter of first, the price is high, and second, not THAT many people want to make that kind of statement with their guitars. I imagine that a lot of people will take it that the owner/player is a conservative and right-wing, whether that would be true or not. Some people don't want that attention.
Both points have to be satisfied to sell the guitar. But, yes, it is a pretty guitar.
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Location: NJ | you must be hurting to take that kind of a hit on the guitar. |
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Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | Speculatively, what would it have brought on Fleabay? |
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Location: NJ | e bay is always a wild card. you just never know. |
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Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | Last listed item: no bids at $1800, then no bids at $1300. Guess you're right, Michael- $1K may be "critical threshold". Too bad, they're beautiful. Frankly, I don't give a s**t if someone does think I'm flagwaving. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Sees,
So is it Aphrodite, Blue Thunder, Arrielle or what? (the name of your latest patient) |
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Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | Y'know, Mike, I haven't given it much attention, with the frenzy of the season. I'm waiting for the rosette to arrive, and designing the cradle to do the crack repairs in the top. It's being very patient so far. However, your suggestion of Blue Thunder is in the running. I think it will have to earn that moniker, though. That will not be possible 'til all the repairs are made, and it goes to Flight Test.
In the meantime, I keep staring at my critters, wondering if they need to be sent out into the world, to accomodate an '05 Collector's. Boy, I'm glad they can't read.......... |
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Location: Vernon, CT | I bought my CL 1779-USA from Al P. brand new for a very good price and there is no way I'd sell it for that price. Pic is also posted. But I have no intention of selling it either. Over time I think you will find them going for more but again the market does not follow a logical pattern either. It sounds and looks great and I have been complimented on what a cool looking and great sounding guitar it is! No negative feedback.
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Location: Minden, Nebraska | I suspect Al is right. The need for cash flow must be pretty acute to eat the loss involved in that deal. |
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Location: Vernon, CT | Ovation's MSRP on the CL 1779-USA guitar is $3,300 last I knew. Doubt GC would be selling it for $650. It is a CL with all the sirens, bells and whistles plus an Ovation flagship guitar.
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Location: Las Vegas | They should be glad they don't have to pay people to take them. Once you sell to the small handful of country artists that should have enlisted long ago and been in Iraq in the front lines dying, who in their right mind would want one?
Just think, if people viewed the first Viet Nam the way they view this one, we'd STILL be losing to China in Southeast Asia.
Chew on that for awhile.
Merry Christmas. Deepest condolences go out to those that have lost loved ones in Bush's war, and to those yet to come.
All the flag guitars should be sent gratis to the troops, who've EARNED them.
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Location: SoCal | Actually, I like that guitar and have thought about buying one.
I don't think you want to inject politics on the board. The opinions here are diverse, but the agreement seems to be, let's keep the politics out.
Unless you really want to have a serious discussion on it..... Why don't you chew on the fact that a million people were slaughtered by their own communist government after the U.S. pulled out. Oh, that's right. They weren't Americans so who gives a rats ass about them.
But I suspect that Al's already rolling his eyes at this thread. |
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Location: Canton (Detroit), MI | Yes, please, let's talk guitars. There are plenty of other places to discuss politics if one prefers to.
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Al and I were at NAMM the year these guitars came out and it seemed everyone had some version of a flag guitar. Ovation's was in production before 9-11 so that may have something to do with the quality, but most just looked like a flag painted on a guitar. The Ovation "flag" is simply amazing. Almost 3-D looking that photo's do not really do it any justice. I believe many to be decals, this one is definately not. |
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Location: Las Vegas | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Unless you really want to have a serious discussion on it..... Why don't you chew on the fact that a million people were slaughtered by their own communist government after the U.S. pulled out. Oh, that's right. They weren't Americans so who gives a rats ass about them.
WE can only be responsible for the people OUR government kills, or the people killed by governments OUR government sets up and supports.
People killed by governments chosen by those people or not thrown off by those people are THEIR problem. Because when WE try to fix such problems, WE become not only THE problem, WE become THE problem that is much WORSE than the initial problem WE were trying to fix.
Not as convoluted as it sounds on first read, and a hard lesson from history that APPARENTLY HAS TO KEEP BEING LEARNED THE HARD WAY EVERY 40 YEARS. Because there's a TON of money in IGNORING IT.
PITY.
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Location: Canton (Detroit), MI | STOP, please. Talk guitars or go elsewhere.
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Merry Christmas |
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Location: SoCal | Good Christian attitude Leslie. Look out for yourself and the hell with everybody else.
You probably won't like me saying this, but Merry Christmas!
Or should I not care about what happens to you because you're not in my circle of friends and family? |
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Location: NJ | you made me think of Phil Ochs
Outside of a small circle of friends
Pre>c d c d
Look outside the window, there’s a woman being grabbed
C em f g
They’ve dragged her to the bushes and now she’s being stabbed
E am
Maybe we should call the cops and try to stop the pain
F am dm g
But monopoly is so much fun, I’d hate to blow the game
C am eb
And I’m sure it wouldn’t interest anybody
Cm f
Outside of a small circle of friends.
Riding down the highway, yes, my back is getting stiff
Thirteen cars are piled up, they’re hanging on a cliff.
Maybe we should pull them back with our towing chain
But we gotta move and we might get sued and it looks like it’s gonna rain
And I’m sure it wouldn’t interest anybody
Outside of a small circle of friends.
Sweating in the ghetto with the (colored/panthers) and the poor
The rats have joined the babies who are sleeping on the floor
Now wouldn’t it be a riot if they really blew their tops?
But they got too much already and besides we got the cops
And I’m sure it wouldn’t interest anybody
Outside of a small circle of friends.
Oh there’s a dirty paper using sex to make a sale
The supreme court was so upset, they sent him off to jail.
Maybe we should help the fiend and take away his fine. (*)
But we’re busy reading playboy and the sunday new york times
And I’m sure it wouldn’t interest anybody
Outside of a small circle of friends
Smoking marihuana is more fun than drinking beer,
But a friend of ours was captured and they gave him thirty years
Maybe we should raise our voices, ask somebody why
But demonstrations are a drag, besides we’re much too high
And I’m sure it wouldn’t interest anybody
Outside of a small circle of friends
Oh look outside the window, there’s a woman being grabbed
They’ve dragged her to the bushes and now she’s being stabbed
Maybe we should call the cops and try to stop the pain
But monopoly is so much fun, I’d hate to blow the game
And I’m sure it wouldn’t interest anybody
Outside of a small circle of friends
[ additional verse, 1974 ]
Down in santiago where they took away our mines
We cut off all their money so they robbed the storehouse blind
Now maybe we should ask some questions, maybe shed a tear
But I bet you a copper penny, it cannot happen here
And I’m sure it wouldn’t interest anybody
Outside of a small circle of friends |
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Location: south east Michigan | At times we stray.
Not very far though. |
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