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Location: Avondale AZ | Circumstances are forcing me to sell one of my Ovations. I have purchased items on Ebay but have never sold any. My question is what part of the world do I list it in? Of course I will list in the USA. However, I have notice Europeans (especially British and French) bidding high on solidbody Ovations. Then I have read in recent threads about postal restrictions to Italy. I know I would have to charge a higher rate for oversea's shipping, but what other regulations are there to consider? How about Japan? If you have any experiences with sell oversea's, please share your pearls of wisdom.
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Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | Actually, I have had good experiences with overseas shipments. I have sent guitars to France, Germany, & The Virgin Islands. No worries, mate. They all arrived unscathed (packed well), and made it through Customs easily. The shipment rates really are sensitive to the size of the shipping carton. Ship by USPO Air Parcel Post as the most economical method. Consult the USPO website to check on size restrictions, and availability of delivery to each country.
And, you're right, you will probably get a higher bid if you're willing to send overseas. The funds transfer can be a bit tricky, but that's the buyer's responsibility to figure out, anyway. So far, PayPal has worked on all three of mine.
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Location: Phoenix, AZ | List it in the part of the world you want to sell it in. Living not to far from you, I've always what part of the world Avondale was in (local geography humor). List it in the U.S. If foreigners want to search U.S. listings, they'll be prepared to pay foreign shipping and duties. Be on the lookout for the foreign buyer scams and you should be allright. Good luck.
P.S. Don't forget listing it here as well. You never know, someone close to you may be willing to pay top dollar. And, most likely, those with the most knowledge and respect are already here. |
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Location: Avondale AZ | Hey dmkozak Avondale is just west of your small neighborhood. It just isn't as polluted (actually we breath the same air but we are closer to the White Tank Mountains). What do you mean about oversea's scams. Could you elaborate so I will know what to look for? |
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Location: Avondale AZ | Thanks Seesquare it was helpful |
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Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | As I've heard, anything from Indonesia, especially. Watch out for the funds transfer fiascoes- money in hand, then ship. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | As dmkozak mentioned, it is always a nice curteosy to list it in the OFC section before going to eBay. State your aksing price or OBO and see what happens. Might save you on the eBay fees and helps keep it in the family! ;)
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | Stephen;
I also have shipped to many different countries over the years with few problems. As the seller, it is usually no different than selling domestically, other than the address. For the buyer, importing has its hassles with the different import fees/regulations but that won't inconvenience you very much.
One thing to consider is the fact that the American dollar is presently much weaker in relation to other world currencies than it was a few years ago, therefore making items priced in USD more attractive to out-of-country buyers. There seems to have been large price increases in many vintage guitars/amps lately, particularly the blue-ship stuff like pre-cbs Fender guitars, etc. This has to be at least in part, due to the current dollar situation.
By limiting ones self to domestic-only sales, you are really shooting yourself in the foot…it’s a really big world out there and there are many currencies that convert into American greenbacks quite nicely!
The few problems I have encountered over the years were not due to the geography involved. :)
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Location: Avondale AZ | Stephen
I am going to list my Limited. I am going to have a reserve and a buy now price. The guitar is near mint and so is the case. Both are totally original and the guitar's electronics all work great.
My first post on this board was to ask how rare a Limited was. I was not asking for prices just it rarity. I got a lot of responses from members who offered me less than $100 and other smart ellect remarks. Mind you I was new and assumed they were kidding but I don't think the intrest here is to high for limiteds.
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Location: Houston, TX | Without a doubt you took those comments the wrong way. The bad offers were made in obvious jest, and the interest is quite high on this board for limiteds. |
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Location: SoCal | There can be other costs to the seller, if using wire transfer...I set up a separate account in a major bank (home office Seattle.) Asked them specifically about wire fees...$10 to receive wire, $40 to send. Yet, when I rec'd the wire, there was another $28 charge against my account. Had to write their home office...undisclosed intermediary "clearing" bank. Reaction from their home office was unsat...they do not accept any responsibilty to disclose this additional fee.
Understand that PayPal will charge a currency conversion charge. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Send me an email with your buy it now price and lets see if it goes anywhere.
Never hurts to save on the ebay fees and I wouldn't mind adding a limited to the stable!
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Location: south of munich, Germany | Tony:
my paypal experience (i have done business with US guys as seller and buyer):
if the buyer has to pay in the currency the seller wants to receive it, all fees are on the buyers side...
less problems (and less fees i believe) than wire transfer or Western Union or whatever...
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I have sold 5-6 guitars to people in Japan or Europe. It is not problem at all. I insist on two things. 1) they pay is US dollar using PayPal. That way I'm totally protected and nothing ships until the cash is in my account. PayPal charges me something like 3.0% off the top but so what. 2) I insist on shipping only with FedEx and the buyer pays full insurance. I don't mean to sound anti-American, but I ain't gonna trust shipping my quality instrument to the US Gov't. Sorry. I have had 100% satisfaction with FedEx. It's not cheap ($80-$100.) but I just build it right into the price. As posted in an earlier thread, given the shitty US dollar people from Asia and Europe are thrileld to buy from us, even with the extra costs attached. |
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Location: south of munich, Germany | it is not only the shitty US dollar.... if you are interested in an US made guitar (and there are many interesting guitars made over there ;) ), buying on ebay is most times the cheapest way...
I bought a new guitar from a shop in the USA... had to pay about half the price (included shipping, charges, fees, etc....) of the listed price in german shops....
if you go the "official" way and buy it in a e.g. german shop ... you have to pay the US-price + shipping + fees + charges + extra charge (margin) on all mentioned before... but there are many involved (wholesaler (sometimes more than 1 step from USA to Germany!), trader).. and everyone has its own margin...that's the reason why buying the direct line via ebay is so interesting...
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Location: San Bernardino, California | The last three Limiteds on (USA) Ebay went for (excluding shipping) $770 (to the USA), $1000 (Europe), $1253.88 (Europe). |
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Location: SoCal | The Limited on eBay ($1253.88) was a USA buyer. Two other Limited's last year went to the same USA eBay buyer for $675.01 and $810.
Dleegblue,
Take some good pictures and get that Limited up on eBay! First time out with a near mint Limited. The runner-up bid on that last Limited was $1228.88. Do a reserve without a buy-it-now. Make your reserve what you were considering for the buy-it-now (go high). Hang in there till the very end of the auction, as the snipers wait until those last 30 seconds. |
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Location: Avondale AZ | Well I posted it. I have a reserve with no buy it now price. I hate to see it go but I can't afford to keep it.
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Location: Upper Left USA | DLee,
Nice guitar, nice verbage, wish I had more money.
Allow me to offer some eBay tips/criticism if I may.
More pictures - many angles and critical shots - especially the areas that more often show wear or damage. The Peghead ears, the pick guard area, the back belt buckle zone and the bottom edges where most punishment goes.
Its OK to come in high on a first offering and then state "Reserve Lowered" on the second effort.
The potential bidders will know a Limited when they see one. You did well on the description. Not too wordy.
I also like to plug the Ovation site and the OFC.
I wish you the best in your auction!
Hey Tony - you ain't got wunna dees yet! :D |
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by dleegblue:
I hate to see it go but I can't afford to keep it.
You get lifetime visitation rights if it lands at my house. |
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Location: Avondale AZ | Thanks Noah
This would match your other one pretty well wouldn't it?
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Location: SoCal | Just look at those two... a match made in heaven!
I have had major GAS lately. I need treatment... where is the OFC Intervention Squad?
Stephen,
Please go for this one!
By the "rules of engagement", you should have had the last one. It was bid on, and won by a non-player, not even an OFC member.
I had just been watching it. I mentioned to Lady Noah how monetarily unattainable one of these was when we were kids in college. Lady Noah threw an unbelievable last minute bid out there to get her Captain a great New Year's present. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Unfortunately, the same fellow is bidding on this one also....I believe he/she is trying to corner the market.
Talking to the owner, don't believe I have the beans to buy this one at the price he wants but I am always willing to help drive up the price for a non-members purchase. :D :D :D
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Location: SoCal | Stephen,
I meant what I said. I haven't bid since yesterday before you. You're the high bidder. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Noah,
Are you saying you are the infamous we-r-impulsive? If so, I feel alot better about losing out on the last one. Thought it went to a non-member.
Anyway, like I said, doubt I will get this one because I believe (from conversations) that the reserve is too high for what I am willing to pay and what I think the axe is worth. I do hope the seller gets his reserve because it only drives up the resale value for all of us.
Of course, there is the chance that if it doesn't sell, he will contact me and we can make it happen! :D :D
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