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samova
Posted 2005-02-03 4:40 PM (#164611)
Subject: Ever wonder what if ???


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Have you ever wondered what if someone built a slothead adamas with carved headstock,heel and bridge and then made it with traditional back and sides.Here are some pics of a project a luthier is doing..

Mahogany neck,flame koa binding,rosewood back and sides,ebony fingerbaord

http://www.ovationfanclub.com/photos/samova_58858_pic2.jpg

http://www.ovationfanclub.com/photos/samova_58752_pic1.jpg

http://www.ovationfanclub.com/photos/samova_58908_pic3.jpg
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stephent28
Posted 2005-02-03 4:51 PM (#164612 - in reply to #164611)
Subject: Re: Ever wonder what if ???



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I remember talking to you about that project!

Keep us updated as progress continues. Sounds like a really cool idea.
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samova
Posted 2005-02-03 5:07 PM (#164613 - in reply to #164611)
Subject: Re: Ever wonder what if ???


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Stephen,hopefully it will turn out well and sound great..here are more pics

http://www.ovationfanclub.com/photos/samova_61334_pic1.jpg


http://www.ovationfanclub.com/photos/samova_61420_pic2.jpg
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cliff
Posted 2005-02-03 5:12 PM (#164614 - in reply to #164611)
Subject: Re: Ever wonder what if ???


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. . . but that's not an Adamas top . .
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samova
Posted 2005-02-03 5:17 PM (#164615 - in reply to #164611)
Subject: Re: Ever wonder what if ???


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Great observation cliff!! Just kidding.
The theme of the guitar is all wooden adamas.The top is actually an ovation spruce top that has been sitting around(aging) for about20- 25 years.I(we) selected it from about 6 i have.This one was the best top with the streightest grain.When the luthier thumped it just right it made cool noises that he understood while i stood there scratching my head..
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Mr. Adamas
Posted 2005-02-03 5:25 PM (#164616 - in reply to #164611)
Subject: Re: Ever wonder what if ???


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sounds like good project, but it ain't adamas =)
the secret is in the bracing. is it your new toy? wonder how it compares to your adamas or alvarez.

did ovation or kaman ever file patent for the top design or looks?
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samova
Posted 2005-02-03 7:25 PM (#164617 - in reply to #164611)
Subject: Re: Ever wonder what if ???


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I have no idea what it will sound like but i dont expect or want it to sound like an adamas.After all, i have several adami and dont want another to be the same.This will have a unique bracing system based on the "Kasha" bracing pattern,not the adamas quanted.Again this guitar might sound like "dog poo" but i have a strong hunch it wont.The guitar is an experinment to see how the ovation multi sounhole design works with rosewood back and sides.I'll keep updating the guitar in progress and give a full report when its done.
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an4340
Posted 2005-02-03 7:44 PM (#164618 - in reply to #164611)
Subject: Re: Ever wonder what if ???


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Samova, what's your luthier's name?
As they say, don't keep your luthier under a bushel. Or something like that.
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samova
Posted 2005-02-03 8:34 PM (#164619 - in reply to #164611)
Subject: Re: Ever wonder what if ???


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His name is Brian Hendley,a very nice guy who really knows guitar building.If you got to dreamguitars.com and look under up and coming builders it talks about him.His guitars sell for around $4500-$5000 and sell quickly due to the unique voicing and bracing pattern he uses.
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samova
Posted 2005-02-09 10:36 PM (#164620 - in reply to #164611)
Subject: Re: Ever wonder what if ???


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update on project.Sides are bent with flame koa binding and ready for back and top.Body is usuall ovation shape.Epaulettes are being inlayed rather than surface mounted to top.


http://www.ovationfanclub.com/photos/samova_80750_ova2.jpg

http://www.ovationfanclub.com/photos/samova_80113_ova1.jpg
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Nils
Posted 2005-02-10 12:27 AM (#164621 - in reply to #164611)
Subject: Re: Ever wonder what if ???


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This is fun to watch Samova, thanks. I always wondered how they bent the sides. I'm looking forward to the next installment.
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samova
Posted 2005-02-10 12:06 PM (#164622 - in reply to #164611)
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few more pics here.Also more on my gallery under "project"

pics of epaulets routed and inlayed.
http://www.ovationfanclub.com/photos/samova_42839_pic1.jpg


http://www.ovationfanclub.com/photos/samova_42942_pic3.jpg

http://www.ovationfanclub.com/photos/samova_42882_pic2.jpg
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samova
Posted 2005-02-10 12:16 PM (#164623 - in reply to #164611)
Subject: Re: Ever wonder what if ???


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couple more

http://www.ovationfanclub.com/photos/samova_43935_pic6.jpg


http://www.ovationfanclub.com/photos/samova_43891_pic5.jpg

http://www.ovationfanclub.com/photos/samova_43988_pic7.jpg
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Legend-LX-Fan
Posted 2005-02-10 12:37 PM (#164624 - in reply to #164611)
Subject: Re: Ever wonder what if ???


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Sam, the flamed koa binding is a great chioce. I have always like wood binding on a guitar. The 1537 Elites had wood binding, and it really set that guitar apart as far as looks. When do you expect this project guitar to be completed?
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seesquare
Posted 2005-02-10 1:06 PM (#164625 - in reply to #164611)
Subject: Re: Ever wonder what if ???


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looks like he's making good progress, so far. At this rate, about a month, I'd say.
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samova
Posted 2005-02-10 1:10 PM (#164626 - in reply to #164611)
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Paul, i also love wood binding.At first i thought flame maple but decided along with the luthier to go with koa.I expect the project to take about 4 months.The neck will probably take the longest due to the fact that he is hand carving the heel to match the early slotheads.The headstock carving and bridge i already have so its a matter of blueing it to the top and neck.There will also be two strips of graphite under the fingerboard for reinforcementnect to the trus rod on each side.Had to sneak some graphite in there somewhere.
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Mr. Adamas
Posted 2005-02-10 1:50 PM (#164627 - in reply to #164611)
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wow, good progress! good taste!! koa binding is better than maple. try flame maple on the side & back on the next one =)

mr. kaman's so smart to make guitar with round "plastic" bowl. a lot cheaper, faster & easier to make guitar. no wonder martin & taylor cost so much more =)
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samova
Posted 2005-06-15 10:24 PM (#164628 - in reply to #164611)
Subject: Re: Ever wonder what if ???


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To those of you who have kept up with this wooden Adamas project.An update. here are a few more pics of the body which is almost ready to be completely assembled.Next the neck.
for more complete update,go to the member picture gallary under samova and click "project"

http://www.ovationfanclub.com/photos/samova_79409_pic2.jpg

http://www.ovationfanclub.com/photos/samova_79572_pic5.jpg

http://www.ovationfanclub.com/photos/samova_79708_pic6.jpg

http://www.ovationfanclub.com/photos/samova_79466_pic3.jpg
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cholloway
Posted 2005-06-16 6:52 AM (#164629 - in reply to #164611)
Subject: Re: Ever wonder what if ???


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Nice looking project Sam. I'd be very interested in seeing/hearing this one once you get it home.
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Beal
Posted 2005-06-16 8:16 AM (#164630 - in reply to #164611)
Subject: Re: Ever wonder what if ???



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It will be interesting to see how the sound turns out. I remember Kasha from the Gibson Mark series acoustics and they were the soak through your new carpet runny dog spoo. Hope yours is better.
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MWoody
Posted 2005-06-16 9:15 AM (#164631 - in reply to #164611)
Subject: Re: Ever wonder what if ???



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Nothing like the smell of freshly ground Koa in the morning! Or was that Kona?

Very interesting bracing configuration.
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willard
Posted 2005-06-16 9:47 AM (#164632 - in reply to #164611)
Subject: Re: Ever wonder what if ???


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I think Koa is ground but Kona is crumbled! :cool:
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samova
Posted 2005-06-16 3:07 PM (#164633 - in reply to #164611)
Subject: Re: Ever wonder what if ???


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Bill, its not really all the kasha bracing.Its a hybrid.Its traditional "X" bracing with some of the kasha bracing.Braced ligher on one side ,stiffer on the other.
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samova
Posted 2005-06-16 3:19 PM (#164634 - in reply to #164611)
Subject: Re: Ever wonder what if ???


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Here's a pic of the top with binding on the inlayed epaulets(this was not easy).Top is ready for final sanding and clean up..

http://www.ovationfanclub.com/photos/samova_54867_pic8.jpg
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Legend-LX-Fan
Posted 2005-06-17 1:17 AM (#164635 - in reply to #164611)
Subject: Re: Ever wonder what if ???


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Sam, that is one awesome project you have going here. Do you have a time when you think the guitar will be complete? I look forward to pictures and your report on how it sounds.
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