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1612 Balladeer Questions????

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John Quinn
Posted 2008-06-04 9:43 AM (#36504)
Subject: 1612 Balladeer Questions????


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I have acquired a 1612 Balladeer. It is in rough shape with 2 big cracks on top and battery holder has been moved and needs to be rewired, as well as the wiring to pickup. Seems one wire is not soldered. I am trying to date this. I can't find the serial number, may have been removed. The neck is not the 5 piece version, it is just solid mahogany, and the neck adjustment is from inside the soundhole. OHSC. Can I get an approximate year from these features? Any info will help.
Thank you,
John
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2ifbyC
Posted 2008-06-04 10:06 AM (#36505 - in reply to #36504)
Subject: Re: 1612 Balladeer Questions????
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They were made 1975-1984.
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cliff
Posted 2008-06-04 10:13 AM (#36506 - in reply to #36504)
Subject: Re: 1612 Balladeer Questions????


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By the neck & lack of TR, I'd venture Early80's . .
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John Quinn
Posted 2008-06-04 10:55 AM (#36507 - in reply to #36504)
Subject: Re: 1612 Balladeer Questions????


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Thank you for your input. So in the early 80's they made cost effective moves on the neck, making it 1 piece and no headstock neck adjustment? Or was this better design?
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cliff
Posted 2008-06-04 11:30 AM (#36508 - in reply to #36504)
Subject: Re: 1612 Balladeer Questions????


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It was the advent of the KamanBar (hence, the neck adjustment inside the bowl) instead of the traditional truss-rod.
I may be wrong, but I believe the necks are two pieces of the same wood that give the appearance of one-piece (again,I"think") . . .


Probably the best person to "date" this would be Moody, but he's busy replacing his Glenn Campbell poster with Bob Taylor photos & filling out the entry forms for Scientology . . .
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John Quinn
Posted 2008-06-04 11:52 AM (#36509 - in reply to #36504)
Subject: Re: 1612 Balladeer Questions????


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Great info. Does any one know where I can find a diagram for the pickup. Seems like there is a lead not soldered. The main white wire coming out of the bottom of the pickup is good, but then there is a post with some solder on bottm of pick up, but no wire. Would this be just a ground wire?
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Fridave
Posted 2008-06-04 7:26 PM (#36510 - in reply to #36504)
Subject: Re: 1612 Balladeer Questions????


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Not sure if this will help, it's from my owners manual for my '79 1612, hopefully you can magnify the print and find what you're looking for.
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John Quinn
Posted 2008-06-05 9:09 AM (#36511 - in reply to #36504)
Subject: Re: 1612 Balladeer Questions????


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Thank you very much. Every little bit of info helps!
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