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Location: Athens, GA & Gnashville | Wow. I'm almost speechless....and that's unusual. This thread is what masturbation with a Brillo pad must be like.
I've owned lots of Ovation solid bodies over the last 37 years, and Glenn's offer, IMO, is more than fair. |
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Location: palm coast florida | Look here is where its at i want a Gibson standard or i will wait for more money to fix this guitar up and sell it period. 300 is chump change. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | bfg,
Your profile (am I profiling now?) says you are into sales. So I'm sure you know the importance of researching your market territory and knowing your product..
The problem is, as Al Pepiak explained it in the introduction to the site, that Ovations don't get the respect they deserve.
I see 30 year old Gibson/Fender parts that are tired but can still gather a hoard of fans and command high prices. Was their copper wire any better? Was their Bakelite made of a better formula? No. Just Namebrand marketeering and pop culture fadism.
Yes there are some awesome examples that have "The Sound" but they are closely tailed by a gaggle of "the rest".
Here's some optimistic values according to Uncle Woody's Bottomfeeder Fleabay Index, the UWBFI for short:
Solid body neck, refinishable $35-$75
deduct if different tuner holes.
Plastic bodied tuners, cmp $30 set, deduct for missing and broken.
Set of pickups, working, $100 each
Working Active electronics $150-$200
Serialized Neck Plate - $30
Unserialized or Early Neck Plate - $50
Body, One pc, no flaws, wood grained, $75-$175
Body, Strippable, Mahogany-$50-$100
Body, Polane (speckle flat paint), no damage-$50-$125
Body, broken, unrefinishable without bondo-$35
Nut, Knobs, Jackplate-$10-$40
I was joking on the $210 offer. It was to see if you'd commit to a price.
All too often newbies come on here and flash a model number expecting to hear that it is the lost key to a buried treasure or something. BTW - when I demo a wall I still look for treasure maps.
There are a few of us hard up wannabe luthiers that think they can breathe new life and wonder out of the unloved, bent and broken.
It may be a sickness but I ain't looking for the cure.
Just treatment... |
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Location: Central Massachusetts | LOL, Woody I was just thinking the same thing.. just trying to do the math on what you'd get for it if you parted it out. You might be better off selling it in pieces than throwing any more money at it. People are gonna knock a heck of a lot off of what they'd pay for it given that the body has been broken in two.
Best of luck, you may get $500 for it in pieces. Seems like that comes up quite a bit short of what a Gibson Standard w/ 60's neck is going for these days. |
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| so far, in my somewhat few years of enjoying Ovations.... there has always(almost) been another one.. or one that will for the time fill the bill, I have a spare neck at this point, and other assorted sb parts.. so guess I'll just wait for a deacon/bw body to show up for a fair price.
B.F.G. good luck with your sale, sorry we got your dander up.
and btw... welcome to the OFC!!
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Location: palm coast florida | I new what its worth then and it only confirmed it its still not worth anything .You didn't get my dander up just disappointed a little or just the same old when your selling everyone wants it for free but when your buying top price .I guess there is no such thing as a bargain.Thanks any way.
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Location: Upper Left USA | SO, do you have a price you'd sell the BW for or are you going to hang on to it (even though it only sounds like an Ovation :rolleyes: )?
Is there something else you may want to trade for it? |
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Location: palm coast florida | NO nothing i could think of thanks any way.
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Location: palm coast florida | Nothing that i can think of how about you.I always wanted a gibson. |
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Location: Stratford, Connecticut | Gibsons are WAYYYYY overrated.. in my humble opinion.. and I owned a 59 and a 60 bursts... Sold them off for Deacons, pointy guitars and Brian Mays! Oh yesh.. much better playing guitars indeed. And that's the real reason to own ANY guitar.... to PLAY it.. that's why PLAYERS should OWN them.. not "store" them to gouge passionate players later.. when they feel the time is right. How disgraceful is that, right? hhahahaaa |
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Location: ranson,wva | i own a few fenders, id put the tele deluxe i built against a gibson and day....just my opinion. i have played a few nice gibbys but for me the necks are too thin....jason |
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Location: ranson,wva | i own a few fenders, id put the tele deluxe i built against a gibson and day....just my opinion. i have played a few nice gibbys but for me the necks are too thin....jason |
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Location: Upper Left USA | "I own a few Fenders, I'd put the Tele Deluxe I built against a Gibson and day..."
Of which you were going to share some pictures soon?
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M(ur texting my patience)Woody |
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Location: palm coast florida | They are on page one look. |
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Location: palm coast florida | Why am i trying your patents look at page one. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Oh, I meant Jason's pictures. He's promised to post so I was nagging. I was nabbing him on punctuation as well.
But I love the whole red/white/blue thing! I thought the Breadwinners were totally cool fom the first time I saw them. |
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Location: Tychy, Poland | well. try sellin your ovation on european e-bay. Ovations are more expensive here. |
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Location: palm coast florida | Do you own a guitar store the red white and blue was just the loft how the wife decorated the room.
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Number of Music Store/OFC interventions to date is 16! What does this mean. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | I don't own a guitar store but I'd like to open an Ebay store front. I'm just one of those guys that stopped playing for about 20 years and now that I can I'm trying a bunch of different flavors.
Life's too short to have mediocre instruments.
I have a customized Viper that is now in the custody of Paul, the proprieter of the Ovation UK site. Shipping was just under $100 and I'm not sure what Customs costs are but the Europeans are used to paying more for what we have.
BFG - If I had your BW here is what I would do with it. I would refinish the neck and obtain a newer body, finish it in a natural wood tone using the electronics as well.
Then I would use the once split body and mate it with a through body 5 string Bass neck. The Carvin options looked good.
That's my fantasy. You gotta dream once in a while. |
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Location: ranson,wva | mike, my camera is slated to be delivered sometime this week...but its a ebay camera buy so you never know what your gonna get lol.......pics to come in due time michael. jason |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Careful, there could be some images still in the camera... |
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Location: ranson,wva | lol ill be sure to dupm it first...sure wouldnt want to post something that would infringe on the manifest..lol i hope it hurrys up cuz ive got some stuff i need to list on fleabay before it all piles up in the shop and i cant get in the dooor.....jason |
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Location: Michigan | You know musiciansfriend sells a gibby melody maker for like 399 i think. its got singles, but you can buy some paf's pretty cheap and pop em in. oh and sunbursts have no effect on tone, however the maple cap and mahogany back have a little effect. or why not buy an epiphone standard? |
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Location: Stratford, Connecticut | So BFG.. did you finally decide to sell your axe to someone? |
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I HAVE A OLD OVATION BREAD WINNER
