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Recomendations for Luthier DFW area

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texbaz
Posted 2005-03-04 3:59 AM (#161080)
Subject: Recomendations for Luthier DFW area


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Location: Waxahachie, Tx
I have had my LX for about 2 weeks and noticed that compared to my 1127 It has very simliar dimensions as far a relief, and string height, at the 12 fret and bridge. But it just doesn't fret as easy as the 1127. I was thinking of trying a local Luthier in the Dallas Fort Worth area. Or might even send it back to the big O just hate to see this thing gone weeks. I checked turn time for a setup with a place in Dallas called Charley's Guitar they say the current backlog is 2 weeks and they want $50.00 or I can pay $80.00 for a rush job. Any suggestions.

Mike
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MWoody
Posted 2005-03-04 8:00 AM (#161081 - in reply to #161080)
Subject: Re: Recomendations for Luthier DFW area



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Tex,
The height of the frets on the LX (CNS is the neck system term) are actually higher. This is because of the improved levelness of the fret board in the area that is usually glued down to the top - they don't have to skim as much fret away to level it out! Take a look down the FB and see what they have done. These guys are dedicated to making every fret work!

Although the deeper frets feel a little different and will leave deeper imprints on your fingers (first hand knowledge here) the gain in tone and responsiveness may be worth it. Your fingers will toughen up some and you won't even notice soon.

I found with myself that I would overgrip the fret side which is unnecesary with an LX. You will be able to bend strings easier also.

Now don't confuse this deeper fret with high action. They ship out the units with all of the shims in place. I prefer a low action and may even take the smallest shim and thin it over some sand paper.

Longer fret life, lighter grip, more bendability and reduced buzzing are the advantages.

Disadvantages are that we have to give up some habits we learned before the instruments were made this nicely! It will pass

Peace
(edited after my coffee kicked in)
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Piers
Posted 2005-03-04 11:52 AM (#161082 - in reply to #161080)
Subject: Re: Recomendations for Luthier DFW area


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I took both shims out on my 1778 LX and boy did it make a difference to the playability.

Piers
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texbaz
Posted 2005-03-04 3:16 PM (#161083 - in reply to #161080)
Subject: Re: Recomendations for Luthier DFW area


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MWoody, Piers thanks for the info. Since I had plenty of time today and pretty much uninterupted I decided to make the adjustments myself. Took both shims out Tweaked the Truss rod for relief just couldn't get the Big "E" to quit making contact with the first three frets. Had the action down to 3/32 at the 12th fret. Decide to put the thin back in, actions just a tad under 4/32's and about .010 relief with no fret buzz on the Big "E" with normal play and she had a noticably better action.

Hope it stays that way for awhile

Tex
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MWoody
Posted 2005-03-04 3:59 PM (#161084 - in reply to #161080)
Subject: Re: Recomendations for Luthier DFW area



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Cool!
You'll be slapping on Mediums in no time!
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texbaz
Posted 2005-03-06 1:52 PM (#161085 - in reply to #161080)
Subject: Re: Recomendations for Luthier DFW area


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MWoody, your info on the LX has me a thinkin that my LX is OK, But I guess I'm just spoiled using the Ole 1127-4 it is truly like butter, especially compared to the LX. Like I had said earlier the dimensions for string height are the same as the 1127 but, the LX seems to have twice the amount of tension on the strings and they both have the same stings on them D'addario EXP16's. And I even measured the fret height and if the frets are higher on the LX than the 1127 It can't be measured with a machinist scale in 1/64th increments theirs just no difference maybe a profile change if that. I might try some DR Rares can't hurt.
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MWoody
Posted 2005-03-06 3:40 PM (#161086 - in reply to #161080)
Subject: Re: Recomendations for Luthier DFW area



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The shape of the frets on the LX are fairly round as well. Better for tone.

My guitar when I got my LX was a 1967 Guild D50 with very flat frets. I had a nice low action dialed in and got accustomed to it.

Consider the ability of our fretting hand to accustom itself to various string gages and such. My Sunday axe is a 12 string and I cross back and forth with electrics and a Classical.

I bet the LX is OK. Give it some time and attention.
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