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Leo
Posted 2014-05-21 3:22 AM (#486956)
Subject: Tuning problems with 1598 12 string



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Location: Mexico City		Hello,

I would like to tune my Melissa Etheridge 12 guitar in a correct way. But when I want to tune the light string pairs one octave higher, the strings broke

I use my Korg DT-4 Solo Chromatic Guitar Tuner.

I tune in 440hz. Instance, while trying to tune the B string pair, I took the care of writing down the notes of every note, in order to watch slowly while tuning was approching the 1 octave up, and these are the notes:

B C D Eb E F F# G G# A Bb B

So, by the time I was reaching G#, the string broke

The same happened with another pair string, so I stopped to tune.

With the pairs remaining, I managed to tune them in 448hz. I played the 12 note of the main string vs the pair tuned in 448, and to my ear there´s no too much difference.

The guitar played with pairs tuned in 448 sounded nice to my hear, but would like to experience the fullness of the guitar, by tuning the pairs correctly.

May I need a different setup to stand the higher tension of light pairs 1 octave higher? Any recommendations? I use Adamas light strings.

Thanks

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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2014-05-21 3:46 AM (#486957 - in reply to #486956)
Subject: Re: Tuning problems with 1598 12 string



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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR		The E and B strings should tuned in unison.

From the Low (thick) strings to High (thin) strings, the heaviest have "octave" strings.
The two lightest strings are tuned to the same note.



If you really want to try to tune the two highest strings to "octaves" you would need to find really light strings.
Something like 0.008, which is what the High G is... Or maybe thinner, if that is possible.

But the guitar is designed for the E and B strings to be doubled.

Good Luck with that.
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jay
Posted 2014-05-21 7:20 AM (#486962 - in reply to #486957)
Subject: Re: Tuning problems with 1598 12 string



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Location: Texas

Just like THIS

Yep... the E and B sound like one. That does suck. A little trick I was taught was to slightly tune one of the strings just a tad flat and you get a slight differentiation from those strings. Nice guitar. Congrats!



Edited by jay 2014-05-21 7:29 AM
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jamesholl
Posted 2014-05-21 10:02 AM (#486969 - in reply to #486956)
Subject: Re: Tuning problems with 1598 12 string


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Location: Bristol England		In nearly 50 years of playing 12 string guitar I have never heard of the top B and E strings being tuned any other way than in unison. I would imagine you may get an octave on the B using an octave G string as OMA suggests but I don't think anyone makes a string thin enough to tune to an E octave.
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jay
Posted 2014-05-21 11:07 AM (#486973 - in reply to #486969)
Subject: Re: Tuning problems with 1598 12 string



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"but I don't think anyone makes a string thin enough to tune to an E octave."
It would be cool...but I wouldnt have the nerve to tune it up.

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Leo
Posted 2014-05-24 4:10 AM (#487044 - in reply to #486956)
Subject: Re: Tuning problems with 1598 12 string



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Location: Mexico City		Thanks OMA I´ve realized I made a mistake on tuning my guitar BTW I see you in other guitar forums, very grateful for helping me

Thanks Jay, the 1598 is definetly a beautiful guitar, then if I tune the pairs E A D G in 448hz making a slighty higher tuning will be ok? I prefer not to risk to broke a string while tuning, as you said make me nervous to do it 1 octave higher.

Thanks James, I´ve figured out my madness



Edited by Leo 2014-05-24 4:15 AM
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