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Damon67 |
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Joined: December 2006 Posts: 6994 Location: Jet City | John B, there's some really good stuff on your list I plan on stealin'. Great demos too. Omaha, that's a great list too. I just started learning Good Love Is On The Way last night. How's that one working for you guys? Cliff, too funny. The bar I've been going to is EXACTLY like that, crickets until the drunks at the end. I have noticed that it can be affected some depending on what song you're playing. Some seem to act like good background music. I need to get those replaced on the list. Or maybe the key is to get them with an attention grabber, then slip in a sleeper? Thanks for the input all. It's been a great help. Oh Fuzzy, how you doin man? I'm taking good care of that Legend. | ||
Northcountry |
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Joined: February 2004 Posts: 2487 | Yep nothing like a good crowd. When your just treated like background noise and an annoyance to the drunks who are veying for attention then the night takes forever to get through and I find myself looking at my watch to be sure I do not play one minute longer than I need to. Even ending a song early if need be. An appreciative crowd gets more, that the business. Here's a few (approx 60) that might help you out. I have odd set lists and I also have my own versions of some of these songs and when I have a good crowd I get lots of compliments on the variety I switch this list around all the time and try to add more when I can now............Working on Overkill now myself. great song; FLOYD Wish you were here, pigs on the wing 1&2, DOGS, Brain Damage, On the Turning Away, Is there anybody out there, Blue Sky, Mother, Welcome to the Machine. ZEPPELIN Acoustic Ten Years Gone, That's The Way, Gallows Pole, Ramble On, Dancin Days, Thank You, Hey Hey What can I say, Bron Ar Yur. Working on Going to California....?? tough one for me so far? Stairway to heaven............by majority rule request only.....this has happened. Music to the Story.......Moody Blues From the Beggining..........ELP Give a Little Bit.......Superttramp Magicians Birthday.......Uriah Heep Mans to Strong..........Dire Straits Solsbury Hill...........Peter Gabriel Lightening Crashes.....Live Tears........Rush Medley of Rush stuff............ The Who The Loser, Cut My Hair, Pin Ball Wizard, I'm Free, The Rock, Miles and Miles, Working on more from the who...... The Space Between.....Dave Mathews Typical Situation.."" "" Sand Man...........America Horse W/no Name....."" Ventura Hwy.........."" Sister Golden HAir...."" Lonely People.........."" Pooh Corner...........Kenny Logins OHIO............CSN Daylight Again..."" 4 & 20.........."" Southern Cross...."" Neil Young Pardon My Heart, Pocohontas, Old Man, Needle and the Damage, Don't let it bring you down, Long May you Run, Hey Hey My My. Yer So Bad .............. Tom Petty Feel A Whole Lot Better.... "" Spirit in the Sky.............Norman Greenbalm ? Black Bird..........The Boys Norweigen Wood........"" Major Tom..........by request only Skating Away..........Jethro Tull Locomotive Breath......."" Currently Working on Thick as a Brick Fooling yourself...Styx Suite Madam Blue...."" Almost forgot Shape of My Heart...Sting & SOS My Originals...........No Names yet... | ||
Damon67 |
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Joined: December 2006 Posts: 6994 Location: Jet City | Cool list. 1/3 of the songs on mine are on yours. Intersting Rush huh? Tears is on the B side of 2112 right? I actually have been contemplating adding "Something for Nothing" I can play and sing it, but wasn't too sure about how it would go over. | ||
Omaha |
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Joined: November 2005 Posts: 1126 Location: Omaha, NE | Originally posted by Damon67: Its a good closer. Kind of finishes off the evening. Its one of those you can stretch quite a bit if you want to.Omaha, that's a great list too. I just started learning Good Love Is On The Way last night. How's that one working for you guys? | ||
Northcountry |
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Joined: February 2004 Posts: 2487 | Fun stuff, seems to work for me as well as the crowd most nights. I have some more WHo material but it does not work well as a complete song same with the Rush, I have worked out a decent medley for these peieces and it goes over pretty well. I try some new stuff when I think I have the right crowd. Up here I seem to do real well (oddly enough) with anything from Zeppelin and Neil Young. The rest of the odd set lists seem to go over well as an acoustic solo. As a band there are a lot of songs you could not get away with. Like DOGS from Floyd or Ten Years Gone from Zeppelin........you have to do the more A side stuff with a band. It is fun adding new stuff, it is a drag sometimes getting requests for stuff you did not plan to do, but it always happens and ya try to be as crowd friendly as you can. I am going through some of the Men at Work stuff to see if there is more, been a while since I listen to any of it. It is some good work and still stands the test of time quite well. Fun band actually, cool style. | ||
Paul Templeman |
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 5750 Location: Scotland | You know, there's several approaches to this. Have a book full of gazillion songs you kinda know, try to "read the audience" and give'em what you think they want. Though personally, unless you have specific requests I think trying to second-guess the tastes of any audience is a waste of time. Then there's "Do You Own Thing" and the audience can take it or leave it (my personal preference) Then there's a middle ground somewhere between that, which I guess most of us kinda work to. Guys, remember that bar in Amelia. We turned up late & drunk (OK, I was the most drunk) and there was a guy playing really lame covers. Good voice, good strong guitar player, good sound through a Bose L1. So we (ok, it was just me) started shouting "play something we haven't heard before!" He comes back with "Nobody ever asks me that!" and he played a bunch of his own songs, which were damn good and suddenly he became a musician with some fire and passion, rather than someone trotting out a bunch of crowd-pleasers to earn a crust. I'm not saying any approach is better or worse than the other, or playing well-known covers is bad, in fact it's a great place to start. It's just that there's "Art" and there's "Craft" When you can balance both and still get paid, you're getting there. | ||
Beal |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127 Location: 6 String Ranch | Where was that, the Palace? Was he playing a Taylor? Might have been Hupp. | ||
Paul Templeman |
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 5750 Location: Scotland | Yeah, The Palace, and I think he was playing a Taylor. He was good. | ||
Beal |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127 Location: 6 String Ranch | Had to be Hupp. He is pretty good | ||
Northcountry |
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Joined: February 2004 Posts: 2487 | Most of the songs on my list are songs no one in this area ever plays. There are of course, some standards, ya just can't help that but the songs I have are mostly songs I like so I am playing what I want most of the time anyway. As for changing the sets to fit the crowd........This is good business thats all....hell I don't care if they want more of The Who or more Zeppelin I can do that perhaps the Neil Young is not so good with the younger crowd that night. The next time I can't play enough of his stuff. You guy's know the game, I know you do. You get used to the places you play. Personally I'd love to have some yell play something no ones heard in a while. Cool......I like the Play what you want approach I hate the bands that do the same dam crap set lists I used to do 25 years ago as well. Around here (The Southern Adirondacks) there are a limited number of places to play and if you get drunk or have a total f-you atttitude ya won't be back again. So you play a few they want and then ya play a few you want. Works for me. | ||
cpotter73 |
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Joined: September 2008 Posts: 42 Location: Crossville, TN | Hello everyone, 1st post. Nice lists from everyone. I've been down and out and not been able to play live in a couple of years, I have been still playing and trying to keep the chops up and hope to jump back on the stage in the near future, but depending on the croud some of my usuals that I used to play were, Something - Beatles/Harrison Southern Cross - CSN Pink Houses and Jack & Diane - Mellencamp Dock O' the Bay - Redding Back 2 Good - Matchbox 20 Rockin in the free world Cinnamon girl Heart of gold - Young Plush - STP Piano man - Joel (usually a request) Take it to the limit and various other eagles Hey Joe Angel Little wing - Hendrix It's only Love - adams Sister Goldenhair - america wanted dead or alive - Bon Jovi Every rose has it's thorn and Life goes on - Poison acoustic clapton - runnin on faith, key to the highway, layla and one of my very favorites that I played more for me than the crowd was Warren Haynes' version of U2's one That was a kind of generic list, and I wouldn't always have time to play everything, I would add to or take away if a song poped in my head and of couse always work in requests if possible. | ||
alpep |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10582 Location: NJ | sue and I have been playing some open mics. we usually do one cover and one original. I usually hit them with a cover they have not heard for a long time or one that is not usually played over and over and over some selections the letter (joe cocker version) the pusher (cross of hoyt axton and steppenwolf) season of the witch (more like the brian auger julie driscoll version) carmelita (cross of the original warren zevon and linda rondstat) after they hear something they kinda know then they will listen to an original without much coaxing. | ||
Beal |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127 Location: 6 String Ranch | good approach Mr Big. | ||
2ifbyC |
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Joined: December 2006 Posts: 6268 Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Originally posted by alpep: Whoa, those will do! Great short setup list... the letter (joe cocker version) the pusher (cross of hoyt axton and steppenwolf) season of the witch (more like the brian auger julie driscoll version) carmelita (cross of the original warren zevon and linda rondstat) Ya'll are really overwhelming me in the selections and length of the 'lists'! | ||
Damon67 |
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Joined: December 2006 Posts: 6994 Location: Jet City | Very nice Mr. Big. I like The Letter, I may use that one. I learned another this eve I think I'll add to the list that I didn't see on the others. I Am Mine - Pearl Jam | ||
Fuzzyman |
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Joined: November 2007 Posts: 152 Location: Maple Shade, NJ. | Hey Damon, Doin good, The kids are back and work is finally slowin down. Hope you are enjoying that legend!! Old "Flint Hills" is doin fine too. (I still owe you a recording) | ||
dobro |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 2120 Location: Chicago | [blog Sept. 4 from "site 1" below] ***************************************** Guitar Night at Katerina’s Thursday, September 4th, 2008 Guitars of Fire played an inspired set last night at Katerina’s. Joe and Jeff were in excellent form and we crafted new versions of “Tamboura” and “Spain” which I regret did not get recorded. Here’s our set list: 1. Cadence 2. Song for My Father 3. Fantasia Suite 4. Tamboura 5. Frevo Rasgado 6. Lady of Rome 7. Egyptian 8. Ursa Gyspsy 9. Guardian Angel 10. Take Five 11. Spain 12. Bozo’s Waltz 13. Mediterranean Sundance 14. B Minority 15. No Mystery Guitarra Azul followed with a driving performance featuring their four percussionists. Especially impressive was Omar on the “Tableh” (the “Arabic drum”). The lead man, Stefano, is a great instrumentalist and entertainer. We look forward to doing it again. | ||
Mark in Boise |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12755 Location: Boise, Idaho | We missed you by that much. I don't get to Chicago often, but I hope to catch you next time, dobro. | ||
Damon67 |
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Joined: December 2006 Posts: 6994 Location: Jet City | Dobro, I'd love to see you play that set through. Wow. | ||
John B |
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Joined: January 2004 Posts: 1225 Location: Lake Hiawatha, New Jersey | Originally posted by Damon67: Thanks man! That's nice of you. John B, there's some really good stuff on your list I plan on stealin'. Great demos too. Steal away. I have a lot of the chords saved in pdf format. If you need any, let me know. | ||
dobro |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 2120 Location: Chicago | I am truly bummed by that Mark. We don't pack too many gigs into one month, so it's hit and miss. Did you at least have fun at the wedding? Did you catch a show? | ||
Mark in Boise |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12755 Location: Boise, Idaho | Had a good time at the wedding, except for concern about how much it cost my friend, the father of the bride. Strange 8 piece band at the wedding that played a bunch of Motown stuff from the 60s and 70s, even though they had only one black guy and all these very white people were dancing the night away. Free booze, I suppose. | ||
Strummin12 |
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Joined: August 2002 Posts: 623 Location: Lake Hiawatha, New Jersey | In reference to the "play what's expected" or "play what the hell ya want" discussion, I think a good medium is to put your own twist on the cover tunes. In my book, that's cool as hell to hear. I love when someone does that live...especially when they get really creative. I heard someone do a funky version Michael Jackson's "Bad" on mandolin while they sang it. I don't even like that song AT ALL, and yet was one of the crowd singing and clapping along to this creative version. It was great. I don't play well enough to learn note for note, nor do I have the patience. Out of necessity, I often do my own versions of covers. Most times, I learn the guts of a song for rehearsal, but then don't really listen to the original version again. Months or years later I'll hear it on the radio and think "jeez, we don't play it like that" as I forgot how the original went, cause I've been playing my version so long. | ||
moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15664 Location: SoCal | There are a lot of tunes that people just want to "hear" they way they think it should sound. But it is really cool when somebody turns a tune on it's head. A perfect example is our own Matthew's take on "I'm A Believer". People know the tune but he twists it so wonderfully that people go nuts when they hear it..... 282.... Remember | ||
Slipkid |
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301 Location: south east Michigan | I just came across a possible addition. I can't beleive that it has avoided my radar because it's just the kind of song Brian & I do. Seventy-three men sailed up from the SanFrancisco Bay... Got off of their ship and here's what they had to say..... Anyone else do this one? | ||
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