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Seasoning a new top
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Waskel |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840 Location: closely held secret | Exactly. | ||
fillhixx |
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Joined: November 2005 Posts: 4827 Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Or don't let Cliff near your guitar in the first place.... | ||
cliff |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842 Location: NJ | I'll have you know that there are several people here who would trust me implicitly with their much loved instruments . . . (Moreso than some beery Canuck;-) | ||
alpep |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10582 Location: NJ | Originally posted by cliff: cliff I'll have you know that there are several people here who would trust me implicitly with their much loved instruments . . . (Moreso than some beery Canuck;-) the politically correct term is "iceback" | ||
Steve |
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Joined: July 2002 Posts: 1900 | Interesting article. Saturating the guitar top with a definite frequency of sound at a fix decible rate. Perhaps the processs can be specifically adapted for each type of wood. These guys are serious, using an electron microscope to measure changes in the wood...incredible. | ||
fillhixx |
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Joined: November 2005 Posts: 4827 Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Originally posted by alpep: Or frostback, when working illegally in the U.S."iceback" | ||
MWoody |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13987 Location: Upper Left USA | Our guitar tops have already spent between 150-500 years soaking in the sounds of falling rain and snowfall. They have been pierced by the cry of the Eagle by day and the screech of the Owl by night. The skitter of Chipmunks and the snort of Elk were their alarm clock. Only recently have they heard the bite of the chainsaw and the ring of the saw blade. Only but a day of their lives has been spent being shaped and formed before they had a sudden rest, then were shaped once more. Now they sit in taught suspension ready to sing the stories they have been hearing as they sat on the westward slopes tasting sunlight and sometimes a faint hint of the sea. Take some time and try to hear it. Listen to the wood between the wires and the frame. It's the song I have heard when I've walked these Northwest slopes among them. M(I'm a poet and don't know it)Woody | ||
moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15664 Location: SoCal | Hey Woodrow... a little bored at work today? | ||
Mark in Boise |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12755 Location: Boise, Idaho | Woody's been sniffing the Deep Woods Off again. | ||
MWoody |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13987 Location: Upper Left USA | I've been working over Cell Phone billing for 200... ...needed air! | ||
colt357 |
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Joined: September 2006 Posts: 713 Location: Alberta, Canada | Originally posted by MWoody: That was almost soulfull! Our guitar tops have already spent between 150-500 years soaking in the sounds of falling rain and snowfall. They have been pierced by the cry of the Eagle by day and the screech of the Owl by night. The skitter of Chipmunks and the snort of Elk were their alarm clock. Only recently have they heard the bite of the chainsaw and the ring of the saw blade. Only but a day of their lives has been spent being shaped and formed before they had a sudden rest, then were shaped once more. Now they sit in taught suspension ready to sing the stories they have been hearing as they sat on the westward slopes tasting sunlight and sometimes a faint hint of the sea. Take some time and try to hear it. Listen to the wood between the wires and the frame. It's the song I have heard when I've walked these Northwest slopes among them. M(I'm a poet and don't know it)Woody SOOOO....they don't call you M(r?)Woody for nothin'. Were you a tree in another life? | ||
colt357 |
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Joined: September 2006 Posts: 713 Location: Alberta, Canada | Originally posted by alpep: THAT was cold.Originally posted by cliff: cliff I'll have you know that there are several people here who would trust me implicitly with their much loved instruments . . . (Moreso than some beery Canuck;-) the politically correct term is "iceback" | ||
Joyful Noise |
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Joined: March 2004 Posts: 629 Location: Houston, Texas | Originally posted by MWoody: Our guitar tops have already spent between 150-500 years soaking in the sounds of falling rain and snowfall. They have been pierced by the cry of the Eagle by day and the screech of the Owl by night. The skitter of Chipmunks and the snort of Elk were their alarm clock. Only recently have they heard the bite of the chainsaw and the ring of the saw blade. Only but a day of their lives has been spent being shaped and formed before they had a sudden rest, then were shaped once more. Now they sit in taught suspension ready to sing the stories they have been hearing as they sat on the westward slopes tasting sunlight and sometimes a faint hint of the sea. Take some time and try to hear it. Listen to the wood between the wires and the frame. It's the song I have heard when I've walked these Northwest slopes among them. M(I'm a poet and don't know it)Woody M(I'm a lumberjack)Woody | ||
colt357 |
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Joined: September 2006 Posts: 713 Location: Alberta, Canada | Originally posted by cwk2: My guitar playing usually stinks...now I know why...I haven't played the smell out of it yet. Just play the shit out of it. Am I close??? | ||
caitly |
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Joined: May 2003 Posts: 45 Location: Oakton, VA | A noted mandolin builder spoke of this seasoning process: "it takes time for the mandolin to forget it's a tree". Eloquent, and it's about as much science as I can understand. | ||
TRboy |
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Joined: February 2003 Posts: 2177 Location: the BIG Metropolis of TR | ...."In life I was silent -- in death I sweetly sing." (Dum Vixi Tacui, Mortua Dulce Cano) | ||
Jason_S |
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Joined: August 2006 Posts: 2804 Location: ranson,wva | memoires of a tiger maple....jason | ||
MWoody |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13987 Location: Upper Left USA | Thanks Rick I saw it coming before I finished the second stanza! ;) | ||
fillhixx |
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Joined: November 2005 Posts: 4827 Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Hard to believe you can think all that stuff up while sitting in a noisy, chemical stew, hot tub! | ||
colt357 |
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Joined: September 2006 Posts: 713 Location: Alberta, Canada | Well, it seems there is evidence that there is something to this. So, now some brainstorming is needed as to how best to accomplish this at home, without the "fancy" machine. With floor mounted stereo speakers I'm wondering about placing the guitar on a hanging type stand between the two and crank the volume when we're not home. But, the question is how far apart and aimed at the sides or front and back. Suggestions? | ||
Jeff W. |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039 Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Directly in front and as close as you can get it to the largest speaker you got... I have a friend in Ashville, NC who swears by this method. | ||
colt357 |
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Joined: September 2006 Posts: 713 Location: Alberta, Canada | Jeff, I was thinking along those lines, too. But after looking at the pic in the link that dvd posted, am wondering if there is an advantage to placing the speaker at the back of the guitar. Given that on an Ovation only the "top of the body" is wood, then maybe facing the front is the way to go. Does the air flow from the body effect the vibration of the top? Should one leave something like a "Lifeguard" in the sound hole or would that muffle the vibration? I sure wish the factory would finish my O and get it back to me so I can have a life again! | ||
Jeff W. |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039 Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | You want to essentially create "feedback" inside the guitar. Yes, face the soundboard to the speaker. | ||
colt357 |
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Joined: September 2006 Posts: 713 Location: Alberta, Canada | Thanks for clearing that up, Jeff. I've got the stereo and the speakers, now I just need the guitar, and I can get this experiment underway! Stayed tuned. Reports to follow. Eventually! Dave | ||
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