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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-09-19 5:24 PM (#19747 - in reply to #19722)
Subject: Re: The Adamas Experience
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Location: Phoenix AZ
It's 1-3/4. How friggin wide ya want it?

Don't worry Bill, in a few years you're start getting water retention in your hands and all necks will feel like wide ones.

Dave
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lanaki
Posted 2008-09-19 5:26 PM (#19748 - in reply to #19722)
Subject: Re: The Adamas Experience


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Location: big island
282?
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AussieJames
Posted 2008-09-19 5:35 PM (#19749 - in reply to #19722)
Subject: Re: The Adamas Experience



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Location: Brisbane Australia
Originally posted by lanaki:
282?
"Drivin down the Interstate, Florida bound
Got the Big 282 there ain't no GAS stations around" :D

AJ
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Beal
Posted 2008-09-19 6:07 PM (#19750 - in reply to #19722)
Subject: Re: The Adamas Experience



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Location: 6 String Ranch
That's 1 3/4? Really. Someone else must have asked for it too then.
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Beal
Posted 2008-09-19 6:08 PM (#19751 - in reply to #19722)
Subject: Re: The Adamas Experience



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Location: 6 String Ranch
Jeff Hall was member number 282.

I guess it's a southern thing. You still see #3 on the rear windows of pickup trucks.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2008-09-19 8:12 PM (#19752 - in reply to #19722)
Subject: Re: The Adamas Experience


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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains
I first saw an Ovation 12 string on the wall of a music store in Columbus, Ohio in 1967...I wanted it very badly (the beginnings of GAS) but since I was paying for it I had to wait until 1975 before I got my first Ovation: a 1115-4 Pacemaker. I wanted a pickup so I traded that for a 1615-4 in 1977...In my travels around the U.S. I saw several of the then new Adamas guitars: again I wanted one but had to wait until I had the money...The Elites I went to in 1988 were the ticket for quite a while...I still love them and am especially fond of the -6p's that I own...As much as I wanted an Adamas, I had trouble finding one and when I did it was a SSB Adamas II 12 in 1998; The Adamas I's were still beyond my means...Then, in '07 on the tour, I met Woz who kindly let me play his 1688-8: I fell in love at the first note: absolutely blown away! I was determined and even more importantly: GAS driven! So since May '07, I have owned 7 Adami...I own a bunch of other O's and other fine brands both acoustic and electric: but my Adamas I's are very special and will be the ones I play at my upcoming Concert next Saturday...I just love them!


282
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Jewel's Mom a/k/a Joisey Goil #1
Posted 2008-09-19 9:15 PM (#19753 - in reply to #19722)
Subject: Re: The Adamas Experience


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Location: Budd Lake, NJ
The first one I played was Robbie's burgendy one (W597...I think); it had the V-profile and I hated it. Loved the way it sounded, hated the way it felt in my hand. Have played his 2080 some, but the neck still feels a little big. Have played a few at the Mothership; the necks just aren't enough like Gertrude's to make me want to have one.
But...some day...I'll have the one I want...... (here's hoping........)

--Karen

282
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Captain Lovehandles
Posted 2008-09-19 10:48 PM (#19754 - in reply to #19722)
Subject: Re: The Adamas Experience



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The first one I played was Samova's original slothead. When I went to his house to pick up the Deacon he showed me a couple. I had no idea what I was looking at. Then I played the slot at the first SE jam.

Now I keep good company and my boys keep coming up with A's all the time at the jams.
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G8r
Posted 2008-09-20 11:34 AM (#19755 - in reply to #19722)
Subject: Re: The Adamas Experience


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After owning a single wood top Ovation - and a plywood one at that - for over 20 years, the first Adamas I ever played was 'Zilla's 47RI at Zillafest last year. Needless to say, that created major GAS pains.

I've been lucky enough to hook up with a number of folks here over the last year and have played a LOT of incredible Adamases. Even luckier to have a SWMBO who bought me one as a present (an 08C).

*282*
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First Alternate
Posted 2008-09-20 12:14 PM (#19756 - in reply to #19722)
Subject: Re: The Adamas Experience
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Location: North Carolina
I've yet to play one. No one who stocks Ovies seems to have anything but the lower end models, and I've never even seen an Adamas in person. I'm suspecting the first time I do will be when I open the shipping container. I keep debating if I want to roll the dice and just buy one.
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Captain Lovehandles
Posted 2008-09-20 12:46 PM (#19757 - in reply to #19722)
Subject: Re: The Adamas Experience



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1A, are you not coming to the NC jam?
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tragocaster
Posted 2008-09-20 7:35 PM (#19758 - in reply to #19722)
Subject: Re: The Adamas Experience


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Location: Flushing, MI
Originally posted by First Alternate:
I've yet to play one. No one who stocks Ovies seems to have anything but the lower end models, and I've never even seen an Adamas in person.
That's been a trend that has lasted for decades.

Obviously everyone going around screaming "Ovations suck, Ovations suck!" have never played anything beyond the average Celebrity.

I went back to my buddy's place last night with my CS257 in hand (and my girlfriend along for the ride). I got to try out his Adamas side by side with my Celebrity. Well I don't have to tell YOUZ guyz that my Celebrity sounded like a toy.

I told my friend that he needs to come aboard here, since he now owns two really fine O's.

I'll tell him to create a nickname because his REAL name is Jeff Hall - I kid you not.

All due respects to member Jeff Hall and his family.
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TAFKAR
Posted 2008-09-20 10:01 PM (#19759 - in reply to #19722)
Subject: Re: The Adamas Experience



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First Alternate, talk to your SWMBO, think of something she really wants (to do, to have, to go to) and agree to it, then tell her about what you really want. Then, work out how to afford it all, and wait for that package from Al. You won't regret it. If there is no SWMBO then skip step 1.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2008-09-21 5:00 PM (#19760 - in reply to #19722)
Subject: Re: The Adamas Experience



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The only Adamas models I've seen is at OFC gatherings or at the home of other OFC members. If you haven't had the opportunity to check out the Adamas line, attend an OFC event. Most members are proud to shwo them off. The first Adamas model I ever tried I bought.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-09-21 6:07 PM (#19761 - in reply to #19722)
Subject: Re: The Adamas Experience


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Location: Boise, Idaho
I think the first one I tried was when I dropped in on Dave. I came home with pictures and SWMBO made the mistake of noticing that I didn't have any of those "blue ones." Also got the Ute about that time and it took me a bit to get used to it. I thought it was too bassey until I listened to someone else play it.
Finally got one of the ultimate blue ones last year with the OFC.
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Steve A
Posted 2008-09-22 11:58 AM (#19762 - in reply to #19722)
Subject: Re: The Adamas Experience


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Location: Agawam MA
I learned to play with teenage buddies. One had an O (1776 commemerative model), one had a Martin and I had and still have Guilds. I always liked the way my buddies O sounded plugged in but thought it was thin unplugged. That sentiment continued for 35 years. One day I went to the music store for strings and one of the salesmen said that he had just taken in a used guitar and that I just had to play it. Instead of running from the store ( the most fiscally responsible plan) I played it. It was a 1989 Adamas II 1681-7. I didn't even know that they existed. The straight out acoustic sound was amazing; plugged-in was better. I put some money down and went home to discuss this purchase with my wife. She said go for it. Having a six string just created a 12 string hole that needed to be filled. MusicMishka helped me with that and now I have one of his 1685-8s.
Everyone who plays either guitar immediatley wants one.
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birddog
Posted 2008-09-22 1:45 PM (#19763 - in reply to #19722)
Subject: Re: The Adamas Experience


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Posts: 154

Location: Michigan
I was wrong, went back to Eldrely saturday. Played it for a while. It is very nice and tone wise its superb.
Sure it would be nice but somehow I know I'd have a hard time with that kind of cash coming out of my hand.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-09-22 1:59 PM (#19764 - in reply to #19722)
Subject: Re: The Adamas Experience


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Location: SoCal
Originally posted by Jonmark Stone:
I already owned 3 O's but my lady didn't complain.
After 25 years, those are still two of the best decisions I ever made.
You stil have and play with both?
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2008-09-22 2:21 PM (#19765 - in reply to #19722)
Subject: Re: The Adamas Experience


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Location: Indiana
Yup... they're both in great shape too. Especially considering all I've put them through.
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guitarwannabee
Posted 2008-09-22 9:11 PM (#19766 - in reply to #19722)
Subject: Re: The Adamas Experience


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Location: Michigan
In 1999 I saw and played my first Adamas at the local guitar store.It was a Millinuiem CB with the cool guitar neck of the planets.I thought that it looked better than it played.I couldnt afford it so I bought a CS 257 instead.A few years later I wanted a 12 string and I won an E-Bay auction for a new 1598 MERB Adamas 1.This guitar has an incredible large sound to it.I finally realized that I now had to go in search for an Adamas Millimiuem CB.I bought a new one from a music store that was going out of buisiness on the Bay .I have to tell you that after having it set up and lowering the action on it that it sounds OK but I do not think it a very outstanding guitar for the money.I do not play it hardly at all but just keep it for the looks and hopefully someday the rareity of it will make it worth more than I paid for it.GWB
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Patch
Posted 2008-09-22 9:31 PM (#19767 - in reply to #19722)
Subject: Re: The Adamas Experience



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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent
Got my first experience today when my Ute arrived. What can I say that hasn't been said already?
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jb607
Posted 2008-10-05 8:11 AM (#19768 - in reply to #19722)
Subject: Re: The Adamas Experience


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Location: Upstate NY
I bought a Custom Balladeer 12-string in 1984 and have played it all these years. Wonderful instrument; very tight fast action and a sound that seems to have improved over the years.

Recently I bought an Adamas FRGW597 with the VIP electronics. As others have pointed out, very few stores stock Adamas, so I was buying it on faith.

As luck would have it (or bad luck as the case may be), I was unexpectedly sent out of town on a long business trip after I ordered it but before it arrived. Tried to cancel it but it was in transit. When I returned from my travels the return period for the instrument had already elapsed.

Nice looking guitar and generally sounds very good. But two things disappoint. First, the action was very high: I really don't understand why they ship them like this. If this guitar were hanging in a shop and someone tried it out, it seems to me this would tend to give a negative impression. Sure, it can be easily remedied, but first impressions are a powerful thing. In my case, a "setup" by the local guitar shop fixed the action -- but that's $40 out of my pocket for something the factory should have done (in my opinion).

Secondly, there is a stray resonance or slight buzz when the D-string is played open. Asked my local shop to look into it, but they did nothing. I'm thinking it's a slight buzz on the first fret since the problem only happens when the string is open. Maybe the nut slot is too low?

I'd like to get the problem fixed. But I'm hesitant to have it done by someone who may not really know what they're doing. I guess I could send it to the factory -- but they sent it out this way, so what's the chance they'll get it right on return?

Anyone recommendations that the more knowledgeable forum members might have are certainly welcome.

Oh yeah, the other thing. The VIP electronics are supposed to include a card or insert that describes the the images loaded in each of the 5 settings. That wasn't included.

Overall, a disappointing experience with what is supposed to be Ovation's premier product. Yes, I understand it's a refurb (FRG), but I never understood that to mean sub-standard. Maybe it does in this case.
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muzza
Posted 2008-10-05 8:56 AM (#19769 - in reply to #19722)
Subject: Re: The Adamas Experience



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Location: Sunshine State, Australia
I didn't own an 'O' until the '80s and I'd never played an Adamas until I visited Schroeder. Then I got to play the matching set of utes on the same day. Thanks Clive (and Jeff)

Still haven't played anything with a lump of broccoli stuck on it. (Yeah Cliff, I know... Acanthus :rolleyes: )
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TAFKAR
Posted 2008-10-06 2:35 AM (#19770 - in reply to #19722)
Subject: Re: The Adamas Experience



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Location: Sydney, Australia
jb607,

I had a resonance buzz on my W597 (optima) and it turned out to be the springs that connect to the battery terminals. I know the VIP is a totally different animal, but try removing the battery and see if you get the same problem. If that is the problem, I solved it with a small piece of cardboard.

You could have fixed the action for free by removing a few shims from under the saddle, as that was probably what the shop did.
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