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Location: closely held secret | Nice price, but I don't see how they can call them 'reference speakers' when they use bass enhancement... |
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Location: Jet City | Well they've worked good for me. Roland products for the most part have always done well for me, service is good...
blah blah blah. I'll stop now.
Was just trying to help. |
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Location: closely held secret | Oh, no prob, Damon, I wasn't bashing your suggestion. I've got some Edirol products myself. I was just wondering how true the sound was if they're 'enhancing' something to make up for the small speakers.
All input is good. Well, almost all. |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | WABBIT : Nice price, but I don't see how they can call them 'reference speakers' when they use bass enhancement...
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Since bass-speakers suffer from roll-off at low freq. , designers of a complete system ( speaker amp. build together ) may compensate the amplifier`s freq. curve..done often , very often..including phase alignment..and , it can be done Passively , I remember ALTEC having made a box , that , when inserted between Woofer Out , ( from X-O filter ) and Bass-Speaker , it would deliver a Boost starting at 150 Hz - Fo ,
6 db slope , could be used on any system , but was primarily intended for the A7 / A7 500 " voice of the theatre " , certainly the standard of Professional Systems in those days..
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Randi , what will U use `em for..?..
..off the cuff , I would say them GRADO Phones look nice ( Good Reputation ), ..But...?!..
I have SENNHEISER UNIPOLAR Electrostatic phones for intricate Listening , and , DIRECT SOUND X-TREME ISOLATION ( that`s the name ) , for P A use ( for when I`m " going at it ") , neither falls in your price-range..... :)
( have my writing skills improved ? )
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Location: Jet City | Ah, I know better than to put too much stock into what a Waskelly Wabbit has to say... I watch my cartoons! You're just lucky it's duck season. :D
Besides, I don't know all the proper terms and didn't really undersatnd the pure meaning of "Reference".
I do know that it sounds a hell of a lot better than my old setup going through the stereo system. There are some good reviews on them, and yeah, the price is awesome. The Edirol folks are also close to home (Bellingham I think), so that's a big plus for me too.
The digital part was the biggest factor for me. Not an easy find within my budget. It makes a WORLD of difference.
I use those, and Edirol UA-700 as my audio/midi input (really cool little box with built in amp and mic modeling). I plug them into my 17" Powerbook and use Logic 8. It's actually a pretty sweet setup for doing portable recording/editing. I can go everywhere with it and be setup in 10 minutes. |
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Location: Jet City | LMAO.... Yeah, I agree with whatever that was that Solid Top said! :confused: |
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Location: big island | vic,
my intention was to use them for mixing (duck! watch out for flying wabbit pellets) or, at least, to listen through them during playback of the instrument and/or vocal tracks i am preparing to record. the grados do sound like a good option and i may be able to get a nice used pair under $50 on the bay. the yamahas wabbit mentions and the models stephen brought to my attention would work fine also, for the price. i'm not yet in the market for some nice monitors but this info ahead of time will be valuable.
and yes, vic, your writing skills have improved but you are punctuating the heck outta me. :D |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | you are punctuating the heck outta me.
....serves U Right.. :) :D ;) |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | The problem with Grados and many of the other consumer phones is that they are "voiced" to overemphasize and create a fuller sound. They make great headphones for listening to music but not what you would want to "mix" on.
You really want a set of sterile sounding cans if you want them for the purpose of mixing. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Originally posted by The Wabbit Formerly Known As Waskel:
All input is good. Well, almost all. This is where we must be truly honest with our members. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Hey Jeff...did you know your logo resembles a guitar? :rolleyes: |
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Location: indianapolis | I can second some recemmendations. The little Yamaha monitors were really nice until they blew up.
Sennheiser makes great phones and suprisingly, I have a pair of 50& Sony's that are very clean and clear.
You may also look at Hafler for small, near-field monitors. Good little speakers at a good price and veru honest. I've heard good Behringer too. |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | 2 things
Yamaha monitor has been working for 8 years no problem. But I'll be watching for smoke!
Headphones. Now that I think about it I got the More Me headphones from a keyboard player friend, and I think he probably swiped 'em from a studio. Oh well, they work. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Originally posted by stephent28:
Hey Jeff...did you know your logo resembles a guitar? :rolleyes: and yours like a nose between breasts... |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Exactly......whose havin more fun now! |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | For headphones as far as I am concerned there are two choices..
Sony 7502 studio monitor headsets
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDR7502-Professional-Stereo-Headphone/dp...
For drummers the MDR 7506
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-7506-Pro-MDR-7506-Headphones/dp/B0002H02...
For Studio MIXING REFERENCE Monitors.
Event 20/20 Passive Monitors are what I use and recommend. The active monitors are nice, but I like the flexibility of using my own amps.
For Mixdown (as opposed to the above used for mixing and recording) there are MANY choices.
You can go wrong with a set of NS10M's if you can fend them, but no speaker should be the ONLY speaker when doing a mixdown. You should have a set of stereo speakers also, just an average set, and also a set of 3 or 4" single speaker cubes.
Just a note on the 7502's, 7506's 20/20's and NS10M's... I have a reason for such a focussed answer. I did a TON of research and continue with the research. Almost every recording studio and even TV stations and Radio stations use the MDR 7502's. Many many studio's use the event 20/20's and almost every studio has a pair of NS10m's on tap. Bottom line, there is a reason for it. Now they may not be the BEST OVERALL, but... they are the BEST over the most applications, extremely consistent and reliable and that's what is needed most.
Now the research led me to the pond. But after several years of use in a variety of situations, I found, there was a reason those were the tools that are used by so many. They work when they need to and deliver the results.
Much like for Microphones we can talk days and days on the subject, but nothing beats an SM57 and SM58 when you need something you can trust, and again, you will find them in nearly every recording studio, big and small, for a reason.
A good rule to have... NEVER USE HEADPHONES FOR MIXDOWN. There is an exception if you are listening, trying to id something, but in general... do not mix via headphones. |
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Location: big island | i decided to opt for miles' suggestion on the sony mdr7502 cans. they should be here monday.
mahalo for all of the suggestions y'all. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | I opted for my own suggestion :D and finally picked up the Audio-Technica ATH-M50's.
Great sounding set of closed cans that have a nice contrast to my Sennheiser HD600's.
Just ordered the Presonus HP60 for a special deal. That should show up in a week or so and make a nice addition. :cool:
RANDY...looking forward to hear what you think of the Sony cans. |
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Location: big island | for the money, (less than $50!), these cans are incredible. love 'em. mahalo for the tip, miles!
normally, i am one to press headphones to my ears for better sound quality. not necessary with these. they sound excellent with superb fit and quality construction. |
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Location: Tychy, Poland | AKG K55 |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Lanaki, glad you got some that you like.
Personal preference is always the #1 priority. |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Slightly off topic - but you'll relate to this, Randy. I have an old pair of fairly expensive Sennheisers that have 'been around the block' a few times but still sound REALLY good, but the right one only worked if I wiggled the wire where it entered the headphone. It eventually stopped working altogether.
Very recently I got around to pulling them apart and resoldering the right speaker connection - the actual wire was only about as thin as a human hair. It was incredibly fiddly and I had to have 2 or 3 attempts to get it right, but was very pleased to have these excellent headphones up and running again.
Not finished yet... :rolleyes:
So, I'm on the computer, scouring YouTube, and I put the headphones on. No sound. I unplug them and plug in the speakers, get sound. OK nothing wrong with the 'poota. I plug the headphones back in, still no sound. So I get up to get my iPod headphones, get to the bedroom and realize I've still got the headphones on... and I then discover the problem.
An inquisitive 5 year old boy and a pair of scissors... :mad: |
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