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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | numbfingers - 2012-09-21 6:58 PM Everything else being equal, buy the one your wife approves of.  That may be the single wisest statement ever made on any guitar forum..... |
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| Cases with both.
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You can just see the crack near the top, by the sound holes.
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Buy Both! 
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| Spoken like a true collector !
You know, if I hadn't just had to help out a family member with a loan, I might just have done that, and sold the one I didn't like as much. Hmmm. If I could resell either one at these prices without much trouble .....
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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | I gotta say, that looks like a tough choice between those two.
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| This is going to sound really weird, after all my going on about my budget, but I am really thinking about buying both and just keeping the one I like best. If I do that, I'll have my local guitar repair guy give the 1758 a checkup and see if the crack needs anything done.
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Location: SoCal | JohnW63 - 2012-09-21 9:38 PM This is going to sound really weird, after all my going on about my budget, but I am really thinking about buying both and just keeping the one I like best... Yep... that's how it starts! Then ya have 10, then 20, then 30, 40... |
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| Say it isn't so !
All I want is ONE nice one and that's IT. |
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Location: Texas | If you don't buy one or the other soon, someone lurking here may snag it (or them) right out from under you.
Just sayin'.... |
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| I'm chating with GC as we speak. |
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| Is there any difference in preamps on these ? The Legend Elite is 1985, I think and the Elite is 1991. Other than the gold tuners, is there anything really different that would make the 1758 much more desirable ? |
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| Alright, everything is now a mute point.
Patch AGAIN saw a new guitar at the same GC. A 1758 without case for $399. It was a bit less clean with a few playing marks, but ... no crack, like the Craigslist one. I had the GC guy check it out. He had the in store setup guy check it out. He tried it plugged in to make sure the preamp worked. While the Craigslist one HAD a case, the little crack, about one inch below the neck had me a little concerned. I guess I traded a case for no crack in the finish. It's on it's way to my house. With a free pack of strings.
Maybe I'll get it all cleaned up and do a photo shoot, like Patch does, since he helped me out so much on this quest.
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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | Are you kidding? After all of this you better post pictures! 
Congrats, they are fine guitars! Honestly, you would have probably been pleased no matter which choice you made. |
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| Yep. The 1758 you PM'd me about. It's not as clean as the Legend Elite, and has the exact same preamp. If I could have been in the Tampa GC and played them both, I may have chosen the Legend with case for 100 bucks more, but ... I couldn't find much info on the 1736 and everyone said the 1758 played great. Other then simple chrome tuners vs gold ones, I'm not sure if there was any difference at all. Who knows. If the Elite turns out to be a beater, I may return it and get the other one. I did e-mail the craigslist guy to break the news.
I have pictures that the GC sales guy took. |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | JohnW63 - 2012-09-23 3:31 AM I'm chating with GC as we speak. Oh, you're a WOMAN! That explains all the questions and multitasking ability. And you can pick up a case cheap and STILL be under the original 500 buckeroonies!
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| No, I am not testosterone challenged. But I can type here or e-mails and talk on the phone at the same time, if the need arises. Since I didn't want either of the guitars at the Tampa Guitar Center to walk out on a busy weekend, I thought it would be a good idea to call them up and ask lots of questions. You should know how I am about questions , by now. I think you need to cut back on the past dated Veg-a-mite.
I did learn one thing. Not everything that has a listing shows up on all the Guitar Center used pages. Patch told me about both of the guitars and I never saw them on the pages I visited. Ex: I would go to the GC web site and simply put in " 12 string " and then hit the "used" check box when the list appeared. I was beginning to think that Patch had some insider info or serious Google-Foo. What the story is, is that if you go to their web site and then click on the "Used Gear" link first and then put in search info on the right, you get a different list ! It's slower to find things because it displays in a single column view, but it finds ALL the used stuff.
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Location: Tuscany, Italy | The GC 12er looks like a 1736 Legend-Elite. Look at the epaulette.........nice one. |
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| It is a 1736 and it's very clean. I had to decide between that and the 1758. If the Elite arrives more beat up that I could tell in the shots, I will probably call them back to see if the 1736 is still there.
I wish I could find any info on the 1736. Other than some differences in the wood work around the sound holes, and better tuners, what IS the difference ? |
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Location: Tennessee | I believe the 1736 is the transitional model between the 1538 Elite 12 string (the first generation Elite 12s and very high end) and the creation and production of the 1758 series, which ran for almost 20 years. I think the 1736 was only produced for the one year, and was the more affordable model alongside the 1538 before both were replaced by the 1758 model. The Legend Elite is a rare bird; one rarely sees any guitars with this particular name.
Congrats on finally finding something that worked for you. By all means, make sure you stick around and stay engaged in the forum.
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| I saw the catalog listing it as " An affordable option to the Elite model " but I wonder what other differences there are ? I would have liked to have the real details before I whipped out my credit card, because the 1736 was a more well cared for guitar with case. If I couldn't hear a difference, I may have chosen the 1736 even though it was 6 years older. That's the risk when you buy long distance.
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